Does anybody else get the definite impression that they are throwing this election?

[dysfunctional press]

either that, or they are extremely confident in their ability to steal it.

just HOW BAD could things be going to get with the economy, if they're this desperate to be out of office when the shit hits the fan?

this is not good.

[seabeyond]

1. feels like it to me.... this morning anyway. n/t

[avaistheone1]

2. I know what you mean.

I almost fainted when Peggy Noonan was on the Today actually speaking positively about Obama's speech.

[Fumesucker]

3. They know the American sheeple will blame the Dems

If Obama is pres when the fit hits the shan big time.

America basically has no cultural collective memory at all.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. That has been their pattern in the past. Get in. Rape, loot, and pillage. Get out. Let the

Dems take the fall. Wait for the collective consciousness forget about last time, and get in there and rape, loot, and pillage all over again.

I was surprised that the Dems picked up so many seats in the last election, given the RW ability to steal elections. Makes me wonder if they will throw it this time or what.

[dysfunctional press]

24. they also need the dems to get things back on track every so often...

so that there's something for the pukes to steal when they seize power back.

[nancyr]

4. I think so, too.

This entire thing has gotten too weird. I've thought all along that McCain was some sort of joke, but this latest development has me convinced that it's all a farce. And, yes, I agree with you that this is not good.

[slackmaster]

5. No, they are in it to win

The choice of Sarah Palin is a strategic decision, just as is Obama's choice of Joe Biden.

[dysfunctional press]

9. she's already going to be under investigation for an ethics violation...

and can be easily tied with ted stevens and his problems.

she's an insult to the type of woman who would have been supporting hillary clinton.

[slackmaster]

14. Their target audience is not Hillary Clinton supporters

It's what the far right perceives as several of its core constituencies.

[riverdeep]

15. Can you elaborate? What are the groups she appeals to? n/t

[slackmaster]

16. Fundamentalist Christians, fiscal conservatives, pro-business people, gun owners

Anti-abortion people, to name a few.

[avaistheone1]

17. and creationists

[Virginia Dare]

28. Why not Hucky, he fits that bill...n/t

[slackmaster]

30. You mean Mike Huckabee?

He's not as female as Palin.

[Virginia Dare]

32. I understand that, but you're implying that..

they're not pandering to angry Hillary supporters. I say they are by picking this unqualified woman.

[slackmaster]

35. A Hillary supporter would have to be angry to the point of irrationality to vote for the GOP ticket

Maybe they are making that assumption, but it's a stupid one.

[Virginia Dare]

36. Agreed. They're stupid and cynical..

it's the only conclusion I can come to. They had probably 100 qualified people to pick from if they want to throw the right wing fundies a bone. But they picked her.

[Virginia Dare]

27. Why'd they pick an unqualified woman then?...n/t

[slackmaster]

31. I doubt that they view her as unqualified

:shrug:

[Virginia Dare]

33. They saw Obama as unqualified...

so they look stupid saying that she is. I guess that's a given though.

[Kitty Herder]

6. I'm starting to think so.

That's alright. At least this way there will be adults in office when the shit hits the fan.

[Gemini Cat]

7. Yes, I do.

That part is obvious.
The question is why and I think most people know the answer to that as well.

[Journeyman]

8. I've said it often: The Republicans only hope this election is for McCain to lose. . .

The only chance the Republicans have is for McCain to lose. George W. has left the nation in such a shambles, it's difficult to imagine how anyone can set things aright. Another four years of McSame would doom the Republicans -- and they know it. Their best hope is for a Democrat to inherit W's disasters. Then, whichever way it goes -- if the Democrat can fix the problems, or if they prove uncorrectable in one or two terms -- the Republicans may be in a position to stage a comeback. It may take more than two or even four election cycles, but they'll have the opportunity. Unless, that is, McSame is elected, and all the disasters coming down the pike end up piled unequivocally on their doorstep. So picking a novice running mate helps strengthen McCain's ability to lose.

[LiberalEsto]

11. I agree completely with you

I think they can't wait to hand the mess over to Obama, and then snipe and whine at everything he does for the next four years.

I truly hope Obama and his cabinet have the courage to go after the repuke criminals in the current Misadministration and prosecute them to the fullest extent. If some of them land behind bars, they won't be in a position to cheat their way back into power in 2012.

[mother earth]

10. I have felt exactly this way since McCain became their man.

It's obvious that everyone has had ENOUGH of the Bush/Cheney cabal pillaging and the destruction of this country & its Constitution.

The GOP is a joke & this is the best they can do...if anybody's gotta worry about the VP possibly filling in it's the old wrinkly guy....maybe he needs Paris Hilton's advice again.

[leftchick]

12. Perhaps they Have it In The Bag

like the last three presidential elections? Greg Palast and RFK Jr. Think so.

:(

[wryter2000]

13. Caller just said exactly that to Hartmann

Was that you? :)

[dysfunctional press]

37. no...but it's nice to see that i'm not the only one thinking along those lines.

nt

[NashVegas]

18. That Was My First Thought

Now, I'm not so sure.

[Odin2005]

19. Not really "throwing" the election, more like flailing around blindly.

They know they are in trouble but don't know what to do.

[marmar]

20. Yeah, that crossed my mind too....Perhaps they know the economy is going to collapse.

If so, I hope it happens before Obama gets into office, then they can't tag it on him. He can be the FDR figure who leads us out of it.

[hootinholler]

21. GMTA!

Thread ;)

-Hoot

[MadrasT]

22. Yes. n/t

[krispos42]

25. I think what they are trying for....

Is a 50%-plus-one victory.

271 electoral votes.

They are trying to stop the slide of some tossup states to the Dems.


Remember, they don't care about bipartisanship or building a coalition. They want their 271 electoral votes so they can declare that a "mandate" and run the country like a fucking king. Again. Completely ignore the 50%-minus-one minority and lavish favors on your benefactors.




Although you're idea has merit. I've thought the same thing on more than one occasion.

[tuckessee]

26. I do. Absolutely.

Maybe a trade-off for a past Dem taking a powder. Kerry? Gore?

[Virginia Dare]

29. I think so. Especially since Romney is whining today..

about he got thrown under the bus. Pawlenty too apparently. They feel "used". I think Bushco/Cheney will cut bait and try again in four years.

[flvegan]

34. Well, they stole the last two.

They've proven they can run shit candidates and "win" even still. Considering our proven spineless Congress, it's not like they'd fight back if they stole this one as well.

However, I agree with the poster above that believes they are throwing this because 4 more years of McBush would completely destroy the party, and it's best to just throw the match.