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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:02 PM
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Did the McCain campaign just totally jump the shark?
This must be... the most baffling veep choice ever.

Seriously. I've checked. I can't find a single VP nominee since 1904 more unqualified. (That year, against Teddy Roosevelt, Democrats nominated a New York judge, Alton Parker, as their sacrificial lamb of a candidate for president; his running mate was an 80-year old businessman, Henry G. Davis and at least he served as a U.S. senator in the 1870s and early '80s.)

Honestly, I thought McCain would have been making a bad pick by picking Romney. Now Romney looks like an inspired choice.

And honestly, this has nothing to do with Palin's ideology. She seems like a perfectly nice woman. She's a talented, promising local politician who could realistically be on a GOP national ticket in, say, 8 or 12 or 16 years once she's finished her terms as governor and maybe served in the Senate or the cabinet. But right now? In 2008? I don't think being the governor of a tiny state is a good qualification for the presidency, and I'd say the same thing about Democrats Dave Freudenthal and Ruth Ann Minner (Wyoming and Delaware, respectively).

Was she even vetted? McCain met her ONCE. Then talked to her on the phone over the weekend. Did he just go "fuck it" at the last minute? What was the point of spending weeks vetting and meeting with Pawlenty, Romney and Rob Portman?

This is absolutely baffling. And as someone on Andrew Sullivan's blog pointed out, what does this tell us about John McCain's fitness for the presidency? In their first major decisions, Barack Obama considered all the options, spoke graciously and seriously with all the contenders and then thoughtfully chose the best person for the moment after months of vetting and meetings. John McCain made an astoundingly bizarre, last-minute, impulsive pick that totally undermines his ONLY line of attack against Obama. This is experience we can count on?!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:03 PM
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1. Yes -- actually, he pole-vaulted over the shark
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:13 PM
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6. I can't help but laugh about this
It's absurd. Absolutely absurd.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:19 AM
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14. it all seems like some weird dreams I have sometimes.
McCain picks a soccer mom as his running mate. Too bizarre!

To me, she's like Dubya: a weak governor with no outside experience.

If those two got in, who would run the country? Lobbyists!
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:05 PM
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2. He knows he has lost.
I think this was EXACTLY a "fuck it" choice.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:07 PM
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3. He picked her because she's had five kids and knows how to change diapers.
As his VP, that could come in handy.

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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:11 PM
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4. Snark!
:rofl:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:11 PM
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5. Brilliant! n/t
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:20 PM
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9. That's the funniest comment I've read all day . . .
touché. . .
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:40 PM
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13. Will her duties include his doodies?!
She's already on record saying she doesn't know what the job entails.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:37 AM
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25. TexasObserver is on fire!
:yourock:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:03 AM
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31. I'll be here all week! Be sure and tip your waitresses!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:51 AM
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30. DUzy right there!
:rofl:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:04 AM
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32. Thanks!
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 08:08 AM by TexasObserver
You really have to wonder how these two will interact.

I wonder if Cindy has to sit in on every meeting they will have.
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:17 PM
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7. PLUS - he picked his Veep depending on who Obama picked as Veep
We heard over and over that McCain would wait to see who Obama chose to help him make his decision.

What does that say about McCain - he did not pick the person that he thought could best serve as POTUS in his absence but rather a strategic ticket addition dependent upon who is rival chose. wow.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:30 PM
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11. Well, to be fair the veep choice has always been to "balance the ticket"
But this isn't balance...it's McSame becoming totally unbalanced.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:26 AM
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17. balance yes, but there is at least the chance mccain could croak. her as pres
wow
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:19 PM
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8. I think McCain picked her for
two rather "outstanding" reasons, both of which have more to do with the body phenotypic than the body politic if you get my drift. And yes, you're right. This most assuredly does bring his fitness into question.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:27 PM
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10. He SODOMIZED The Shark Sans Lube
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 11:28 PM by MannyGoldstein
Astonishing. But good luck for us!
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:21 AM
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15. Well, thank you very much for that little brain burn!
:hi:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:27 AM
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18. Buck Up! It Could Be Worse!
You could be the shark...
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:31 PM
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12. Ever since this was announced this morning, I've been
wondering if we couldn't demand a mental evaluation of McCain. This pick is so bizarre, the only way it makes sense to me is that the GOP didn't want to attach a realistic candidate to McCain.

It seriously makes me question McCain's fitness to be president. (Not like I had any doubts before, but this just seems to make it so obvious.)

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:25 AM
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16. the news people were actually scratching head, stumped, "are you sure"
they asked when the name first came out
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:47 AM
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29. Didn't he release his medical records
in just a three hour window. Over a thousand pages, too. Reporters could take notes but not copy anything. I mean, who does that if they're not trying to bury something. By contrast, Obama's was one page.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:27 AM
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19. No he did not jump the shark
granted he could have done much better with others, but this is not a shark jump

She is loved by the Right Wing... the FUNDY right wing, aka the folks that McCain has no traction with. She was chosen to try to shore his street cred with these folks

She was also chosen to get them PUMAs who are so annoyed at Obama and the DNC (granted... the PUMA movement is over estimated and it is quite small really... and some are republicans)

She was also chosen to attract women in general, (which is delusional once you look at her stance on things that matter to women)

But when you look at this from McCain's point of view... this was a decision made to shore up his chances with the army that put bushie over the top twice (and Diebold, but that is another discussion)
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:40 AM
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26. The fundies loved Harriet Miers.
Look how far it got her.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:43 AM
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27. This will go farther... she will be nominated and will accept it
unless there is a major scandal between now and wendesday
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Errrica Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:29 AM
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20. He is so
Transparent.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:36 AM
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21. It's not the size of the state, it's the 2 years in the position
and she doesn't know good policy, or appear to have much for judgment. By comparison, Brian Schweitzer has less years in elective office, but has 4 years as governor, and in that time has a proven track record on policy and judgment. So he'd make a good VP choice, but she's iffy at best.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:37 AM
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22. Matlock is losin it.
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LongDistanceRunner Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:38 AM
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23. Jumped the Shark... Nuked the Fridge... Tapped the Palin
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:43 AM
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24. Maybe more screwed the pooch than jumped the shark.
nt
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 01:43 AM
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28. He cleared the ocean.
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