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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:11 AM
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I'm gleeful about McCain's pick of Palin
It negates his attacks on Obama for purportedly not being experienced enough.

She has NO experience on the national stage. She simply hasn't been in office long enough to know how to deal with the national press.

She's a Pat Buchanan clone; her political philosophy is a fringe one- outside of even the republican mainstream.

it's an insult to women, and women will take umbrage over this obvious political ploy.

I can't imagine a more disastrous choice.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:13 AM
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1. I am absolutely bouncey at the thought of someone asking Gov. Palin
what she thinks of McCain's assessment of his own wife, ie the "c word" and "trollop."

:bounce:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:13 AM
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2. Can't wait for the debate with Biden. She will be baked Alaska.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:25 AM
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17. Big Mistake. Lets downplay this ......................Remember Bush
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 07:43 AM by Fluffdaddy
We all build up how bad AG and JK was going to kick his butt in the debates. We raised the bar to high, all chimp had to do was hold his own and not wet his trousers on tv.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:29 AM
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18. And Biden will have to remember not to appear "condescending" or
invading her personal space.

On the merits he should win the debate handily, but as with the chimp, there is the concern about appearances which might trump the substance of the debate.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:39 AM
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20. Yep, you get................ This has to be played just right by Biden .
I think he's up to the job.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 11:22 AM
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23. No. I'm not.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:17 AM
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3. You are right but..

The game plan for the Repukes is to downplay her quackery, paint her as a 'reformer', outside Washington a 'tough, can be Commander' women, and most importantly a women. They are pandering to the female vote in the most shameful way.

Trouble is, wouldn't a Kay Bailey Hutchinson have done the same thing? Why this particular women? That's what I'd like to know.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:19 AM
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4. Hutchinson would have been a much more formidable
choice. The Palin pick will actually turn off a lot more women than will be attracted to her. It's fucking insulting.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:45 AM
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11. Kay Bailey wouldn't have let McCain push her around. . . .n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:03 AM
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14. I recently looked up whether there are other female Republican governors...
I found two: Jodi Rell of Connecticut, and Linda Lingle of Hawaii (any others?). While I may not have all the details, neither of them seems as *insane* as Palin - why wasn't one of them considered?

Well, I hope it won't matter, as I hope McCain/Palin lose by a mile!
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SocratesInSpirit Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:20 AM
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5. Yes, but that viewpoint assumes
that enough Americans will be discerning enough to tell the difference. After 2004, I have no faith left. I truly, sincerely hope that you are right, and I am wrong.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:23 AM
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6. I don't know how long you've lived
but you sound very naive as to the nature of Americans.

This could easily be the VP elect come November 5- and rather than scoffing and gloating on our suppossed good fortune, you might want to consider what might happen if events prove you wrong.

And get to work making sure that they don't-

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:28 AM
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7. Long enough to know that she's a huge risk. Throwing someone
on a presidential ticket who has had NO experience on the national stage is fraught with peril for that ticket. Furtermore, I've been at work for Obama, dearie. And I'll be working for him next door in NH this fall. Now don't you think YOU should get to work instead of running around lecturing others?

Oh, and yeah, damn straight I'll sneer at her.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:44 AM
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10. Sneer away- but remember Dan Quale
that was received just like this- and while the guy was an embarrassment, I doubt he was as dangerous as this woman is.

Ridicule- fine- even good, but pressing our luck- or encouraging others to do s at this stage is just dumb. Dearie.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:07 AM
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15. Dan Quale was a U.S. Senator
for 8 years and prior to that was a two term U.S. representative. He's also a lawyer. Palin? 8 years as mayor of a small, small town and 1.5 years as governor. See the difference?
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:10 AM
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16. I do

Quayle was vastly more qualified...and he sucked.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:34 AM
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9. Sure she *could be* VP-elect . . .
And that would be a disaster for the nation and the world. But so would the obvious corollary: John McCain as president-elect.

The key thing here is that this is such an incredibly bad choice, the likelihood of McCain winning has dropped significantly. Faced with his first truly "presidential" decision, Obama came up with an absolutely stellar choice; faced with *his* first presidential choice, McCain came up with a big "huh?"

Aside from the practicalities of Palin as an untested, inadequately vetted campaigner, McCain has shined a searchlight on a most important fact: he's not ready to lead the nation. He makes rash, intemperate decisions that put the nation at risk; in true republican style he's willing to do anything to get elected (governing after the fact be damned).

Should we be complacent? Of course not. Has John McCain just handed us a huge gift? Yes, yes, and yes!
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:36 AM
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19. then you'll like my poster
Edited on Sat Aug-30-08 07:37 AM by jpertello
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:36 PM
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24. Yes, I do! n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 06:31 AM
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8. Re: Buchanan
She once appeared on stage with Mr. Buchanan, wearing a Buchanan for President button.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:00 AM
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12. Now THAT is beyond the pale!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:03 AM
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13. It seems to
call into question a number of things, ranging from her judgement, to Mr. Buchanan's "ability" to be objective when discussing her on MSNBC.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:23 AM
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22. I wouldn't want her answering the damn 3 'oclock call.
I wouldn't go do far as saying it's a disastrous choice .. but it's certainly not a winner.
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