Palin an "Out-and-out Liar" - Amazing AJP Article - Best yet, imho.

[autorank]

This is a remarkable piece of analysis. It goes right where we need to go with the whole
Palin nomination. The inmates have taken over, that's without any doubt.

Sarah Palin, Out-and-out Liar

Gene Gaudette & Jeff Coopersmith

APJ publisher Gene Gaudette weighs in on an explosive development that further suggests Palin was never vetted by McCain.

September 1, 2008 -- Geneva (apj.us) – Like many of you, I sat in my office waiting for John McCain's vice presidential announcement.

All I knew early that morning was that the CNN goons got it wrong.

It seemed like McCain might have at least some choices among the glitterati of the American political world. At somewhere near 10am on Friday morning, I heard that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin had jumped into a Gulfstream private jet and was making her way to Ohio with her irresponsibly huge family in tow.



SNIP

So, one is forced to ask the key question: can we rely on McCain's intelligence?
Surely not.

McCain picked the weakest of the weak candidates, a short-time governor of a nothing state who got elected because she was "hawt." And if you do not believe me, Google "Palin hot." You'll get more than a thousand hits on that search – all from the nuts who live in Alaska.

My only conclusion: every one on McCain's Veep list said "No" to him. They didn't want to be an also-ran on his losing ticket.

If you don't accept that theory, the only one that makes a prima facie case suitable for a conviction, then you're living in Baghdad.

Full article - Amazing:
http://www.apj.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1686&Itemid=2

[seemslikeadream]

1. YES YES YES

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[autorank]

13. You are having entirely too much fun?

But, I don't understand. What with this MILF business. It sounds like some massive multiplayer role playing game. Or is it more sinister?

This is a real kicker - those people all said no. That IS the only explanation.

I'd like to see the polling numbers those people saw, the ones that we're not hip enough to handle
accorting to PTB;)

[puebloknot]

24. Interesting to consider that Gustav saved them from having Bush and Cheney ...

... pollute their convention with their "legacy," and no one with any sense of a personal future will agree to be on McCain's ticket.

And my daughter and I duly noted, in watching he beginning of their convention, that the audience was made up mostly of white faces, many of which were rather wrinkled white faces. Nobody has 'splained about diversity to them, I guess.

Good Ship Lollypop? No, the Titanic! :)

(I also don't know what MILF stands for. Waiting to hear. It ends in "F." Think the "F" word might be involved?)

[seemslikeadream]

32. and

mothers, I, and like

[tblue37]

49. And "to." n/t

[autorank]

44. You ARE somebody!

The publisher of American Politics Journal noticed your comment down thread and lauded it. My follow up was also noted. I provided a "chuckle." ... rofl

update added to original article by APJ Editor, Mike Harwood.

UPDATE 3: Hat tip to Michael Collins for posting a link to this article at DemocraticUnderground.com. We were especially impressed with the comment of DUser "puebloknot":

There is so much smoke here, there has to be a major conflagration just waiting to be discovered.

N.B. Jonathan Alter is just saying that there was no in state vetting. It was all remote - 11:56 pm, Mon - MSNBC. Wnoder if they did some of that "remote viewing."

[jmowreader]

41. It's a reference to her appearance

It means "mom I'd like to fuck." Apparently there's a huge trade in MILF porn.

[tblue37]

48. I don't think so. Apparently Pawlenty was convinced he

had it in the bag right up to shortly before the Palin announcement, and he is, according to some reports, furious about it.

[WA98296]

25. Good read.

[TahitiNut]

34. Didn't the article say it was a "GILFstream Jet"??

:evilgrin:

Yes, I think so. But they probably had a typo.
"Alaska Governor Sarah Palin had jumped into a Gilfstream private jet ..." is how they meant it to read.

[Blaze Diem]

64. In SOME worlds, GILF means,

Gramas I'd Like to F***.

Maybe that is another scandal in the making..who knows with this "08 GOP Freak Show".

[seemslikeadream]

2. … not by McCain or his campaign managers but by the shadowy Dominionist, anti-Constitution cabal

… not by McCain or his campaign managers but by the shadowy Dominionist, anti-Constitution cabal known as the Council for National Policy.

[Me.]

3. How Long

Before she's gone? I'm saying Sept. 21st is the ballpark date.

Did these people seriously think no one would check her out?

[EFerrari]

4. Kick.

[Native]

5. a friend floated this same opinion the minute news was out that Palin was the pick

makes sense to me. all the other possible candidates are young. why attach themselves to a losing ticket. recovering from that would take a lot longer. makes more sense just to wait 'till '12.

[autorank]

14. That's what I like about this.

It's very simple, straight forward. It's the obvious analysis that's important. We're given such
a load of nonsense, as in CNN trying to sell this. Then we get to approach any topic with either common sense, where it applies, or convoluted sense. The minute we take the round about approach,
its blue pill time? The next blue pill will be, 'McCain's really that 'moderate' that we all knew. He'll be different when he gets elected.'" That's generic but a fundamental requirement for McCain, given the slavish devotion to the opposite of almost every major theme he advances.

Nice to see Kerry mixing it up this time around.

[Ms. Toad]

6. Sorry, but I can't get past the incredible insensitivity

of an author who believes that it is inherently better never to have been born, than to be born with Down's Syndrome, and who describes the life that child will lead - and parents who have made the choice not to terminate the pregnancy - in such a derogatory manner.

On top of that, he doesn't even bother to get the gender of the baby right.

>>However, why not choose someone so far in ultra-right field that even a fly ball wouldn't reach her? Why not pick a woman who is so pro-"life" that she has forced her fifth child into a life of heartache – the poor victim of Down's Syndrome because Jesus told her to do so? That's admirable. You might think this is harsh, but Palin knew her fetus had Down's. She seems not to give a thought about the future of the child. Sure, the child might have the best possible babyhood, but then what? Where will she go to school? Who will take care of her? Who will take the mantle of responsibility when Sarah and her husband pass away? Perhaps one of the other four children – one of whom who is being off to fight in Iraq – will feed her, change her adult diapers, and punch out anyone who makes fun of her. The baby was on the stage Friday with McCain, his wife, and the Palin family. She didn't stir – at all – not even with the phony screaming and applause, the loud rock music and the thousands of camera flashes. She was "asleep," sound as a bug in a rug.<<

[LisaL]

7. It is horribly insensitive.

And the children with Downs syndrome have varied levels of mental retardation. No one can yet know as to what the potential of this child is.

[johnfunk]

17. Not completely true -- at as early as six months, some assessments can be made

[seemslikeadream]

36. Who is more at fault here?

By far to me it is the parents that took the opprotunity to have this picture taken, easy to tell which child had the best street cred. McCain is USING this baby like his POW CRUTCH

[autorank]

45. "Meet the McCains" n/t

[MassLiberal]

47. this is a little off the subject...

but look at McCain's hands in that photo -- he has them clenched into tight fists. He looks soooo uncomfortable.

[electropop]

63. I'm hardly a McCain fan, but the hands are the result of his injuries

sustained during captivity. I understand they hurt all the time.

Which doesn't explain why my hands are clenched into fists whenever I hear corporatists like McCain or Obama speak.

[ogneopasno]

8. That's terrible.

Ignorant and insensitive.

[Binka]

55. Why?

[ogneopasno]

58. For the reasons others have said.

Downs syndrome does not necessarily manifest itself in the way the author describes.

[roguevalley]

9. this author slams the state too. pisses me off. they need to watch tougher in

alaska on the history channel and find out something about alaska. I may email that to them.

[johnfunk]

16. The gender has been corrected... though apparently Koop was not the only one in the media...

... to think the youngest child was a girl. I heard one of the CNN bobbleheads refer to the baby as "her" over the weekend, so it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people are under that mistaken assumption.

[Solly Mack]

10. Ha!

Knew it!

Palin Was Vetted…

… not by McCain or his campaign managers but by the shadowy Dominionist, anti-Constitution cabal known as the Council for National Policy.

[autorank]

20. Encouraging isn't it.

They call Virginia, "The Old Dominion," referring to colonial times, mid to late 1600's. Now we've got the "New Domination," or maybe "New Dominatrix" for our vulgar culture brought to us, whithout request or choice, by the mainstream media companies.

You couldn't think up a better film plot than this. A polar bear killer, proud of it too, who also is under investigation for what is certainly conflict of interest, gets nominated and is now the heir to a 2008 stolen election. Comforting too.

[Solly Mack]

26. Well, it was nagging me and nagging me

I knew McCain didn't pick her...that he allowed others to do so...not that he minds it as long as it gets him the WH.

Newt's been promoting Palin since at least April...maybe longer

Paul Weyrich..mister I'm going to go hide from the evil secular people - was praising the choice within minutes of it being announced.

A website pops up calling her the next Thatcher...which brings to mind Reagan

Phyllis Schlafly was quick on the praise

as was Bauer


religious right wing reagan lovers all

So...that part no longer has to nag me

and that's comforting :)

But little else is

[tblue37]

50. I hope their immediate and excessive Palin love will help discredit the

RW fringe even more thoroughly with mainstream voters.

[Solly Mack]

52. It'll turn off some people....but she energizes too many

McCain loses and he won't run again...but Sarah? She's young and a religious right darling....and Cheney ain't exactly unhappy with her either.

Palin's taking a bruising now...and maybe even enough to to cause her to drop out...though I'm having a hard time making the sense of that...but politicians have survived worse

maybe the whole point was to launch Palin for later?

[puebloknot]

28. With regard to the "Dominatrix" theme ...

... someone posted a photo today of Sarah in a short, short black leather skirt with all the accoutrements to send one's mind in that general direction. But she's a *wholesome* dominatrix, you understand, because that photo was taken in a kitchen! (Don't know for sure if it was her, or her head photoshopped onto a body!)

But, stream of consciousness and all that -- Hitler was so enamored of Kinder, Küche, Kirche. Woman's place, you know. So how does Sarah's worldview differ from that? I wonder is she's an afficianado of the "Quiverful" Movement? Imagine having to knock out a wall or two in the White House to add more bedrooms for the First Children!?!

"Vulgar culture." You so pegged it.

[malaise]

33. Frightening

WTF is going on.

[bluesmail]

11. He HAD to choose a loser. OMG. Nobody else was willing

to be seen as so stupid. HA!

[bluesmail]

12. He HAD to choose a loser. OMG. Nobody else was willing

to be seen as so stupid. HA!

[puebloknot]

15. K&R There is so much smoke here, there has to be a major conflagration ...

...... just waiting to be discovered.

Obama is taking the high road, and rightly so, in telling people to lay off of the young daughter. She's a pawn in this whole thing, and undeservedly so. But it is We the People's business if this woman has lied about her own pregnancy (or lack thereof), and it is the height of hypocrisy for McCain to put this woman out there just to attract the lowest of the low in this country, the religious fanatics who have been behind most every outrage we've seen since 2000 and the introduction of "faith-based" bullshit ('scuse the French)! McCain is chanelling one R. Reagan in his insistence that *character* should reside in the White House. (Strength of character, Mr. McCain, not "a character"!)

The deviousness and hypocrisy over one or more pregnancies is small potatoes, however, when compared to the fact that this woman is *currently* under investigation for ethics/abuse of power issues at the micro level, and is now being touted as someone we can trust at the macro level to steer our Ship of State through extremely murky waters. Even if McCain lived out his term, do we want this bimbo to represent us to the likes of heads of state all over the globe? We are a laughing stock that this has even been able to rise to the level of anything but a major hoax.

And should McCain meet his maker, and should Mrs. Palin make it to the winner's circle, who does she bring with her? A husband who has on his record a DUI arrest! Can we honestly contemplate the horror of having this country sink to such a level that the cast of Mayberry (apologies to that cast) has come to live in the seat of power of the most powerful country in the world? Well, yes, we *can* contemplate it. We've had a Resident for almost eight years with a similar record -- only more egregious because it not only involves substance abuse, but being AWOL from his military duties during the Vietnam War. We don't need more of the same.

We *all* need to wake up to the degree that the religious right really is determined to insert themselves wherever they can find a crack in the face of democracy in this country. Even as we've seen our constitution and our laws shat upon over the last eight years, there has remained among progressives something of a shrug of the shoulders, a "this, too, shall pass" feeling about these religious wackos. Who, in their right mind, can take them seriously? Well, we have to consider that *they* are not in anything that resembles a "right" mind, and they hatch plots with every breath we draw to impose their insane worldview on the rest of us. Sarah Palin is the penultimate example of ignorance triumphing over integrity.

Sarah Palin doesn't just want to crow about how righteous her daughter is (after being *unrighteous* in a major way, according to Sarah's standards), but she wants to limit the choices of all other women (and the men who love them, or who don't love them and leave them in the lurch) to those her daughter now has to select from.

No, we don't ridicule Sarah's daughter. She has sorrow enough in her life. But we *do* shine the light on the truth about Sarah Palin and *all* her endeavors -- public, professional, *and* private, insofar as they reflect on the kind of influence her absurd ascendance to great power would have on this country.

Kudos to Obama for his kindness and humanity and his intention to stick to the high road. But a reminder to him and to all of us from his acceptance speech: ENOUGH!!!!!!!

I have allowed myself to indulge in the "gloat factor" for a short time -- considering that this choice just means that McCain is toast. Would that it were so! We are facing, as a country, and more than ever before, a great owning up in this coming election to what we are as a nation. If, through means other than honestly electoral, McCain takes the Oval Office and brings with him the lame, the halt, and the blind - politically and intellectually and morally speaking -- then we must wonder whether we shall ever again see the country we have loved.

If, indeed, everyone but Sarah Palin has turned down the VP offer from McCain, that should give us gleeful hope. But few of us would have considered in the waning months of 1999 that Selection 2000 could possibly happen HERE! I shudder to think it, but this joke could be on us.

[autorank]

30. Two (or three) points in response ...

To begin with, how very interesting, your implicatoin - the smart money would be turning down the nomination. Palin had to know all this would erupt, particularly her very own, very real "Troopergate." She must think that the election is rigged. Mon Dieu! I'm shocked at such a notion.

Also, we need to be aware of a couple of things about the religious right. They're no longer monolithic. There's an environmental movement, a real one, within. They're getting larger as a group and new initiates don't come for the politics, they come for the community.

Most importantly, the reason that McCain has trouble with this segment of the electorate is simple. He didn't maintain his marriage vows and behaved in an opportunistic fashion. My resonse to that is not the same as the religious right. I expect bad behavior on the part of the elected, in the current system. But I don't condemn or denigrate their position. It's a "marker," a "tell" that, to them gives away a fundamental facet of his character that they find offensive. I could be wrong (like to see some #'s on this) but I don't think so. Look at how much these groups concentrate on family, fidelity, the role of husband and wife, etc.

The meaning of sin in the original Greek bible, our source, is "missed the mark." Well, John McCain missed the mark, period.

[puebloknot]

37. And some further comments of mine!

Mon Dieu, how shocking that such a good Christian as Sarah Palin would be willing to participate in a rigged election!

I'm aware (and pleased) that there's an environmental movement among religious right types. They've finally figured out that if God gave them dominion over the fowls of the air, etc. (been a long time since I was in Sunday School, so I don't remember all of that verse) they are charged to keep it tidy, rather than trash it (even though the Rapture's coming and they won't have to worry about it, 'ere long). They can be good stewards of Mother Earth and still be wingnuts about our civil rights. I'd like to think otherwise. I rather imagine that while enjoying community, they are still being exposed to politics. But it's good to savor the thought that we aren't being taken over by nothing but extremists.

Perhaps we can apply that old cliche to the religious right that is applied to science. To paraphrase: "Religion advances, funeral by funeral."

Yes, *I* know that sin really only means not quite measuring up, not a behavior that merits being tossed into a fire that burns eternally. But I don't feel too comfortable that the majority of fundies make that distinction. Further, we've seen so much allusion to "mistakes" being made by this administration and their whole following that I'd prefer the less liberal definition of sin, as applied to them and their actions. But that's just me, in revenge mode at my worst, and in justice mode, at my best.

[autorank]

67. 'funeral by funeral'

They're so good at it. Relentless but enabled by the silence of the lambs.

[ihavenobias]

18. K & R

[INDIA]

19. I don't care if I get flamed. KEEP DIGGIN ON THE PREGNANCY...

There is more to this than meets the eye.

And keep on the ethics violations and "bridge to nowhere" connection. This nitwit is going down.

[autorank]

22. It's an open forum. Free speech and all that

And to flame you means that the flaming ones know the correct answer.

How many questions have to be raised simultaneously to cause suspicion. Why is the MSM so slow on th uptake?

[puebloknot]

31. FWIW, I agree. If there is no question about the pregnancy, it would be easy to prove! nt

[H2O Man]

21. This not only

makes sense, but would suggest that like the 1972 democratic ticket, the first VP may soon be history in a sense she does not intend to be.

Nominated.

[autorank]

23. The "eagelton" has landed

You are so right. But they're a match made in, well they're a match.

There's probably much more than even what's come out but that's enough.

I don't know enough about the pregnancy to comment. I was told by a reliable Republican source in the state that they see her hometown as the extreme end of extreme Republican position.

But, I still don't get this. Who takes a polar bear killer as a running mate. That's too easy a shot, way to easy.

I would like to think McCain for showing where he's at in his career right now.

[H2O Man]

27. Soul mates, they.

McCain's use of that term was a bit revealing.

[johnfunk]

29. At least she's a purrdier "Soul mate" than Pootie-poot

[Hubert Flottz]

40. I hope they end up being Cell-Mates. Because they are con artists!

[msedano]

35. no, i'm not living in baghdad

when jeff koopersmith writes his hardline conviction in his conclusion, My only conclusion: every one on McCain's Veep list said "No" to him. They didn't want to be an also-ran on his losing ticket. If you don't accept that theory, the only one that makes a prima facie case suitable for a conviction, then you're living in Baghdad, Kooperman overlooks the only possibility that actually makes sense: McCain made a single offer. No, it's not that the list was gender-specific and reverse alphabetical by first name. McCain looked at that list of potentate potentials and asked himself, "Self, which of these people most closely resembles a bucket of warm spit and is not named joe?" and the answer he hawked up is "sarah palin". a woman who is not beautiful. outwardly handsome to those of a certain taste, but far from beautiful.

recommended.

mvs

[Jack Rabbit]

38. Those are the good reasons to oppose her in a nutshell

As bad a candidate as she makes, she stay on the ticket. To remove her would upset the Christofascists, who are finally injecting some money into McCain's organization It would also be an admission of error, which would send even more independents to the Obama camp.

Let's not overlook that, in spite of Dobson's new-found fondness for the Big Mac, McCain has probably lost more votes than he's gained by this choice, and is going to lose a lot more every time Governor Palin opens her mouth.

Predictions of long-term fallout: John McCain will retire from the Senate rather than seek re-election in 2010. The highest political office Sarah Palin will ever hold is governor of Alaska.

[johnfunk]

42. I get the feeling the oligarchs who sign the checks that fuel the GOP...

... (and most of them are not Christofascists but petrofascists) are going to want to throw {Palin over the side sooner rather than later. Don't be surprised if by Thursday the ticket is Grampy McSame and Sore Loserman.

[Jack Rabbit]

43. I can at least imagine Lieberman being president

Again, not doing anything I would want him to do, but at least doing it well.

I agree that this was a choice not vetted for the petrofascists (good term, by the way). Nevertheless, once the dye is cast, its going to be hard to change its color. For the Big Mac to replace Mrs. Palin is to admit error where he cannot afford to make one. It makes the initial decision look impulsive (which it was) and done for the wrong reasons (which it was). If she leaves the ticket, there will be few who will believe she wasn't pushed. He'll lose the Christofascists right after winning them over.

Speaking in favor of replacing her is that naming her in the first place probably netted more votes for Obama than McCain. Yeah, McCain gets an important Republican constituency on his side, but he loses more independents for whom Republican has become a soiled word due in no small part to the narrow-minded, anti-libertarian approach that people such as James Dobson and Governor Palin bring to the party.

On the other hand, replacing her makes McCain look uncertain of his important decisions once he makes them. Depending on how this is played out in the open, it could even make McCain look plyable to pressure groups. These are not presidential qualities. They are the sort of think that could make a citizen vote for a candidate with whom he is not ideological comfortable if he perceives the other candidates as weak or lacking in character. He may end up losing more votes that way.

So McCain is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. A chess player in his position would resign the game rather than continue. Any chance he had to win the game was lost Friday when he blundered with the Queen.

[Hubert Flottz]

39. Nobody else would join Mad John on the Tragic Bus or...

They couldn't think of any other republican that didn't turn 75% of America's stomach. This is a trick to grab the holy roller vote and the left over ladies who refuse to this day, to shift over to Obama's corner, IMHO. And yes there really are ladies like that because I have talked face to face with some of them since Friday. I also believe that the GOP will do everything in their power to win including stealing votes again and again and again.

Pandering to the fools. The last things in the world these Hypocrites want is, peace, understanding, compassion, or to love or to forgive anyone who does not line up behind them like sheep. Everything Jesus supposedly stood for, these people that control the GOP stand against. They all talk the talk 24/7 but none of them REALLY walk the walk.

I guess we are supposed to believe that Jesus wants them to steal our vote? Starve our people? Build bridges and roads in Iraq, so they don't have to build them here? I'd just call them bat shit crazy.

John McCain is as big a liar and con man as Bush and just as ignorant and arrogant. And McCain picked a total bimbo to make him look a little smarter. Smart people know that if the old fool really was smart, or honest he wouldn't be a republican.

[lonestarnot]

51. Lumpy should just go back to Cornville with his yellow corn teeth and get lost in his house (one of

'em)and never come out again.

[autorank]

57. Prolee will;)

What a major malfunction, and we know what his is.

[Waiting For Everyman]

46. "What does a VP do?" is enough against her. (n/t)

Just like McC's admission on the economy.

[tblue37]

53. All along we have been wondering if or when McCain would

respond to the pressure of the campaign or the debates by publicly losing that famous temper of his. I am now wondering whether the bad judgment and bad luck of the past few days will eventually get to him.

They thoroughly screwed up their VP pick; the Gustave threat forced them to cancel their convention 's first day and to pull up on the attacks against Obama. Then the hurricane turned out not to be quite as bad as expected.

At first Bush was not going to speak to the convention because of Gustave (a plus for McCain), but now he is going to address the convention after all.

I am actually wondering now whether we will see the old guy blow his top in public sometime soon. This Palin meltdown has to be really embarrasssing him and stressing him out.

Some 72% of the US population watched the Dem convention, according to numbers I saw in this morning's paper. With the media's focus on Gustave, and their constant remarking on the fact that the Republican convention is beign shortened, Bush won't speak, Bush will speak, etc., the American public is being pervasively exposed to justhow f***ed up the Republicans are. They can't run a country, they can't run a convention, they can't even vet a VP candidate.

And even though the Gustave evcuation went off well enough, the TV reports on it also included plenty of footage from the Katrina disaster, reminding people that NOLA was drowned on Bush's watch and its residents abandoned to unimaginable suffering, and that FEMA was run by an incomeptent crony, whom Bush then praised for doing a "heckuva job."

I figure McCain has to be feeling pretty stressed.

[CitizenLeft]

54. Okay, which DUer said "the Eagleton has landed?"

:rofl:

I salute you!

[autorank]

56. Me as in autorank/Michael Collins

And I salute you right back. This one's for you, CitizenLeft


Taken by me at the Committee on the Judiciary hearings on the Kucinich
Resolution, July 25, 2008. Left, Bruce Fein, former Reagan Justice Dept.
official who has argued since very early on that Bush behaves like a tyrant
and is destroying the Constitution. Right, Vincent Bugliosi, author of
"The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murcdr." They both favored impeachment.

[passy]

59. Was that your empty seat in the middle?

You sir keep good company.
I think I had mentioned to you that the repubs might choose a woman. My pick at the time however was Elizabeth Dole, who actually was on the short list in 2000.

[autorank]

61. I do recall the womam prediction

But who would have thought that the mayor of a town even Alaska Republicans think is wacko right would
get this?

I'd like to have taken that chair and just listened. It was a moment for two masters, in repose
before telling the Committee on the Judiciary that we're ruled by a tyrant who should be tried for
murder. Yikes!

When we say it, it's one thing. When they say it, with a lot to lose, it's another. And they did it
with such flair.

[CitizenLeft]

65. oh, awesome, you were there????

Oh! Envy! How cool is that!

And thank you! I bow to you again! :yourock:

[autorank]

66. I was the last person let in for the start of the hearing.

They'd actually shut the door when I got there and I told the head of security or whatever that "I really need to get in there, I've been her since 5 am. Can you help." And she did. Some "famous"
types had crowded in line too! It had been organized, everyone had numbers, but they're special;)

Here's my day: http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/node/2168

[CitizenLeft]

68. wonderful!

Thank you for that link! We'll have to keep our eye on you! :hi:

[Joanne98]

60. I don't think Lieberman said no.

[MiniMe]

62. Satire

[AzDar]

69. Kickety!

:kick: