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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:38 PM
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Sarah Palin has women deserting Republican camp
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24291632-5012748,00.html

Poll shows women don't like Sarah Palin
They are deserting the Republicans
Speech today will be chance to fight back

ALASKA Governor Sarah Palin was a risky choice for John McCain - and the Republican presidential candidate is about to find out just how risky.

A national poll shows most US women are unimpressed as her stance on issues like abortion and pre-school education becomes public.

They have thrown their weight behind the Democratic ticket in the race for the White House, with 52 per cent of women polled saying they will vote for the all-male Democratic ticket of Senator Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and just 41 per cent said they would back Senator McCain and Governor Palin in the November election.

The poll comes as the McCain camp defends the vetting process used to select Governor Palin.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:41 PM
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1. Whoops!
Is it too late to pick Turncoat Joe for VP?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:42 PM
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2. I couldn't find the story being carried in the US by the "Liberal" media.
Imagine that.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:43 PM
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3. Women are not so stupid after all folks.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:44 PM
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4. but, but.. she has a vagina!!
I thought all of us women were only concerned with voting for someone with eggs in her basket.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:45 PM
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5. I think all women should vote with their ovaries.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:45 PM
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6. I think all women should vote with their ovaries.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:45 PM
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7. Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton.
Local columnist Elise Patkotak's take on this.....

http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/514085.html

"That broken ceiling isn't one Palin should claim"

Here's the difference between Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. Sarah wears skirts. Hillary needs pants suits. Most women aspire to look like Sarah but on a good day fall woefully short. On a bad day, they make Hillary look like Miss Wasilla material.

Before finding a way to be paid for sitting home in a sweatshirt with no makeup, bra or heels to constrict me, I worked in an office. Some mornings while getting ready for work, I'd suspect that life was just messing with me. There is not a working woman alive who hasn't had one of those days, the one where you put on mascara and clump your lashes. You try to unclump them only to smear your entire eyelid with black. You're lucky if you leave the bathroom without ebony streaks down your cheeks.

Who of us has never gone into a meeting holding a notepad to our chest, not because we are ashamed of our breasts. but to hide the coffee/jelly stain that inexplicably showed up on the shirt right before we left home and right after we discovered we had nothing else to wear.

Now is there anything at all about Sarah Palin that would indicate to you she ever has days like that? Ever? You can see where she might end up annoying a lot of women. Hillary, on the other hand, looks like she knows exactly what it's like to have clumped mascara.

When Hillary Clinton ran in the primaries, there were more than a few snarky comments made about her hair, makeup and sense of style. It sometimes felt as if certain commentators, male and female alike, were annoyed that a woman they did not consider beautiful in the classic sense of the word had the temerity to put her face on camera every day and not feel a need to apologize for it. It's as though they resented that a less than total babe would dare to think that she deserved air time.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes for those same pundits to start making snarky comments about Sarah's beauty and style, as though having those qualities means she couldn't possibly have any good ideas or intelligence. After all, how is the nation supposed to take seriously a woman who was once Miss Wasilla and a first runner-up to Miss Alaska?

The fact is that all the interest and effort put into how a woman candidate looks often means missing the broader point of her candidacy. Sarah is being touted as the Republican answer to Hillary for Hillary fans who feel cheated. But there is a critical difference in the two candidates. Hillary fought for her party's nomination. She fought a good fight based on an organization she built and, against all odds, came within a hair's breadth of the nomination. What she earned, she earned on her own.

Sarah was plucked from the relative obscurity of Alaska's gubernatorial mansion -- OK, house in Wasilla -- and handed a nomination for which she never had to fight. She has been gracefully placed by McCain's side to be the beauty to his beast, the young to his old, the change to his status quo, the staunch social conservative to his maverick middle.

But in no way has she shattered any glass on her way to this nomination. She was picked by a group of men needing someone to balance their act. Had this been a year when the Republicans felt more of a need for a male from the Midwest to carry some demographic there, Sarah would still be in Wasilla driving her SUV to the office every day.

Hillary Clinton depended on no man to pick her to be anything. She saw what she wanted and she went for it. Hillary Clinton shattered the glass ceiling whether or not she ultimately won the nomination because she proved a women's ability to mix it up with the guys and hold her own. Sarah has yet to prove that on a national stage. I hope she eventually does.

But right now, the only ceiling she should take credit for shattering is the one the Republicans erected above their women when they enshrined Pat Nixon and Nancy Reagan as the ideal American women.

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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:54 PM
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8. No hint as to what they used for polling. is news.com.au/heraldsun legit?
How are the Aussies polling our women over here in America?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:59 PM
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9. They think women are stupid.
Regardless of gender and "personal narrative" why the hell would anybody who was going to vote for Hillary Clinton vote for this clown? Their views are totally opposite!
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:01 PM
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10. I would like her to stay on the ticket and get beat so bad
that the puke party has no choice but to kick the religious intolerant to the curb, and to destroy this myth that evangelicals make up a majority of the voting public.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:07 PM
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11. that's what you get when your focus group for testing your candidate is
James Dobson, Pat Robertson and Gary Bauer
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:13 PM
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13. She's a hardcore "True Christian TM" married to a secessionist and terrorizes innocent wildlife.Talk
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 04:15 PM by GreenPartyVoter
about scary! She couldn't understand less about foreign policy, or be more against women's rights, if she tried.

:scared:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:33 PM
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16. She did. Went to a church for 20 years that taught tht terrorist attacks on Israel
are God's will. On weekdays, she was working for the secession of Alaska. You know, like a patriot.

Freeper.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:34 PM
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17. Are you sure you're in the right place?
That's the second not-so-veiled shot you've taken at the Democratic nominee. You might find freeperville more to your liking.

Bake
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:52 PM
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22. And you hush up.
I never get to play with them.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:54 PM
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23. I know what you mean!!
I usually miss all the fun!

:rofl:

Bake
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:38 PM
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18. why it's the little cowardly freepfuckhead
hate to break this to you asswipe, but failin' palin is a national joke and she's jettisoning whatever chance the old fart had. she's a dangerous loony fringe nutcase. and American women don't want anything to do with her. suck on it, fucktard..
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:40 PM
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19. Damn, sure are a lot of tiny little pricks around here lately... wishing they were bigger I guess.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:42 PM
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20. buh bye
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:51 PM
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21. Hell she was part of a
separatist political party, the AIP, Alaska Independence Party.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:15 PM
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14. Well, I guess they didn't like what they looked like.
Doesn't Palin embody the typical Republican woman? Dropping babies as ordained by God, and running off to play the good ole boy games?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:27 PM
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15. + Obama sees bump among white males!
By Ian Swanson
Posted: 09/03/08 11:45 AM <ET>

ST. PAUL - Barack Obama’s bump in polls since the Democratic National Convention rests largely on gains among white men, according to the Gallup polling organization.

Gallup’s poll concludes Obama has also gained on Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) among independent and Democratic women, but that McCain’s strength among Republican women has strengthened since his selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate ...

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-sees-bump-among-white-males-2008-09-03.html

So Sarah Louise's drivin em off in droves
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:57 PM
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25. Palin usually sees a bulge while amoung white males.
:rofl:

I need a drink.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:25 PM
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28. Can't say I care much what she sees at the Dead Dog or wherever she hangs out
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:55 PM
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24. Pre-school education position???
I've been asleep. What's her position on this?

(How could anyone not support helping kids to socialize, read and count early?)
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:00 PM
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26. Yes, the "liberal media" in America consists of Olbermann, Maddow, and a couple others.
You have to get outside the US to find major media that actually cover all things the conservative run MSM in the US don't cover.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:18 PM
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27. I still can't believe that 41 % of women can be that fucking stupid.
Where have all these morons been for the past 8 years?
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