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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:49 AM
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How will the rest of the world respond?
The US government has proven that we can be the biggest bully on the block. Our economic meltdown is impacting nations planet wide. What happens in this country or is perpetrated by "our" government does not remain within our borders.

If we put, intentionally or not, a scheming, conniving, just-smart-enough-to-know-where-to-insert-the-knife, dominionist into the White House, one heart beat away from being the "leader of the free world," how will the rest of the world respond?

Would another country consider following US examples of foreign policy, the likes of which we've used in the Middle East and South America? Could they, any of them?

Or will other counties' governments just sit back and wait to see what additional havoc we can spread to them?



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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 11:57 AM
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1. The US isn't doing anything -- the globalists are and using us as a hiding place
How better to prove the "folly" of democracy so rich people can own us again?
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:56 PM
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12. Considering the number of home grown globalists we've contributed
to the mix, I'm not sure they're hiding. But, I get your point.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:09 PM
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2. Good question. I can imagine that, should we continue on this path of insanity,
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:57 PM by greyhound1966
other nations might begin to apply pressure on us. We, in our typical dumbass macho-man style, would respond with threatening and blustering, and thereby promote the formations of alliances against us.

The republiks and many so-called Democrats have, in their enthusiasm for the various "plunder the world" schemes we currently support, have forgotten that the Chinese, Russians, Indians, Pakistanis, etc., are not our friends. Their enmity for each other and desire to extract as much as possible from us has, so far, prevented them from unifying against us, but another 4 years of militaristic insanity might well be enough to change that.



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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:32 PM
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5. Will they wait another fours years? n/t
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:14 PM
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3. Massive nuclear arms proliferation.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:29 PM
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4. In other words, business as usual. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:37 PM
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6. I think they will mostly be in a blocking position.
The only countries we will be tied to are those that need arms.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:42 PM
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8. Defense rather than offense?
Is that what you mean?

Yeah, that would make sense, I guess. Trying to control the fallout rather than prevent the blast. (Wow, sorry for the nuclear imagery. Must have been that post above.)

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:42 PM
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7. Some disjointed thinking..
Don't empires always fail due to over reach? How fast can we make bombs and bullets? When will allies stop backing the losing horse? Have they already? Surely the failure of Democracy can be linked to the rise of militarism. Who better to exert military rule than religious fanatics, especially when the country is being stripped to sustain the military?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:47 PM
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9. There is always a point to where it can no longer be sustained.
We certainly don't have much further to go and I wouldn't be surprised if someone gave us a push.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:55 PM
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11. Yours seems to be along the same line as my "disjointed thinking".
A couple of additions to your thoughts...

"Surely the failure of Democracy can be linked to the rise of militarism" and the profit to be gained for war profiteers as we perpetuate militaristic actions.

"How fast can we make bombs and bullets?" If that's all we manufacture...quite a bit, I presume.

Question for you - why are "religious fanatics" "better to exert military rule"? I don't see it; but my caffeine may not yet have kicked in. :D



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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 04:08 PM
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14. I think there is some kind...
of value in the mass psychology, and the restraints that religious fanatics bring to a society. I think the fervor of oppression has to be accepted by the people, and so many religious cults have proven that kind of result.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:47 PM
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10. Well, since Richard Bruce Cheney is continuing his Vulcan provocations
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:49 PM by bobthedrummer
to those of US familiar with the PNAC and thier allies goals, here's a blast from the past to consider from The National Security Archive

"Soviets Planned Nuclear First Strike to Preempt West, Documents Show"
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 154
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB154/index.htm

:nuke:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 01:13 PM
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13. n/t
:kick:

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