PETA ad....

[The Straight Story]

Animal Lovers Angry Over Puppy "Body Bag" Offer
Posted By: Gina Villarreal 4 mins ago


OROVILLE, CA - It's the last thing Karen Metcalf thought she would hear.

The Oroville woman learned about an ad in the August issue of Dog Fancy magazine, offering a free welcome home gift to new dog owners.

Metcalf, proud mother to four dogs, including her new puppy, called the number and was shocked to hear the recording.

The message said, "To receive a free body bag representing the dog that was killed in an animal shelter when you bought your puppy, please leave your address after the tone."

The ad, listed under the name ABC Puppy Products, was a fake, placed by PETA to get its message into the mainstream.

It's a message PETA admits is edgy, but one they claim was needed.

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=47316&catid=2

[ogneopasno]

1. Gawd, PETA is such crap.

"Needed."

[FLAprogressive]

2. God I hate PETA

They take the message of Animal Rights and twist it so they can feel better about themselves.

[LynneSin]

3. Why doesn't Peta target real people like Palin - who wants to go kill Polar Bears

bad enough we're killing Polar Bears with global warming but Palin wants to help it along.

And btw, this is just another sick attempt by PETA to grab attention by being totally offensive to everyone. This is why I can't stand PETA

[YOY]

4. That doesn't "inform the public" of anything

Unless the advertisment was to inform the public that PETA is run by assholes.

That's not "edgy", it's asinine.

[Blue_Tires]

5. guerrilla marketing strikes again...

lol

[cobalt1999]

6. I agree with the message...

People should go to the animal shelter first. However, PETA's methods won't change behavior.

Their methods WILL make the news (like it just did). Once it makes the news, PETA will get more donations from their fan base. Make another provocative ad, make the news, get more donations, etc.

It's not about saving animals with PETA. It's about stirring up enough crap to get more money. So, while they are failures at helping animals, they are very successful at their primary goal of soaking their fans.

[BattyDem]

7. That's such BS!

Pet store dogs need homes, too. If they don't get purchased, they end up in shelters ... or worse.

I'd like to see puppy mills shut down, too - or at the very least, I'd like to see MAJOR changes in the way the operate and are regulated.

Once the puppy is born, they need a good home just as much as every other dog. The problem won't be solved by making people feel guilty for choosing one dog over another. People need to be educated about puppy mills and the over population of animals. Also, animal rights organizations should be working on ways to make spaying and neutering more affordable - not making animal lovers feel like executioners because they gave one dog a home and not another.

[TooBigaTent]

8. The majority of people here would also condemn PETA if they did attack Palin on the heli-hunter

atrocity.

Without PETA and the good we (I am a long-time member) do and the attention we bring to animal abuse, much more of that would go on in this country.

[FLAprogressive]

10. PETA only makes people who care about animals look bad.

[Name removed]

12. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[NeedleCast]

15. Without PETA the animal rights campaign

might actually have a chance of being taken seriously.

[underseasurveyor]

21. I disagree

No one would know about the heinous abuses of farm animals or be aware of the overwhelming unwanted pet population nor would anyone really care.

PETA gets noticed, good or bad, and people do take notice.. This thread is proof of that.

[NeedleCast]

22. This thread is proof that people are bored at work

PETA is far from the only animal rights organization. They're just the most obnoxious.

If you have to resort to shock tactics to call attention to your cause, you're doing it wrong.

[underseasurveyor]

27. Well that may be how you see things

That's OK, I respect that however people aren't moved unless they're shocked. Otherwise they'll just stay in their cozy safe places go to the grocery store, buy a steak and the steer that suffered an unkind death won't be a second thought much less a first one. I know I was one of those people once years ago. Shock then anger made me look beyond my own backyard and what I learned and saw was finally enough to move me.

Now if PETA can move just one person, me, then I say that is a good thing. I have to wonder how many others have been moved enough to change their lifestyles to be more animal/planet friendly. The thing is... it takes guts. It starts with self.
Progress not perfection.

heh and those bored at work people? Might you be one of them?

[underseasurveyor]

9. PETA raises the hackles

and gets attention and hopefully at the very LEAST gets people to think a little bit deeper and beyond their own noses.

As someone that sees and works with these types of issues every single day and as someone who gets very weary, sad and angry at the abused, neglected, and discarded pets...

I'm GLAD that PETA takes things beyond the comfort, acceptable level.

Spay and Neuter your pets.. It's that simple!

[Damian the LHP]

14. Except...

...they do so using threats, coercion, and terrorism. They don't care about animals as much as they care about hating people. If someone you didn't agree with did that, would you just say "they're getting people to think"?

And they think you're a monster for wanting animals spayed/neutered. Seriously. Go look it up.

[underseasurveyor]

18. They do too support spaying and neutering

"An Ounce of Prevention
Spaying and neutering helps stem the tide of overpopulation. It does not affect animals’ energy levels or change their personalities, as some people mistakenly believe. Spaying eliminates the stress and discomfort that females endure during heat periods, eliminates the risk of uterine cancer, and greatly reduces the risk of mammary cancer. Neutering makes males far less likely to roam or fight, prevents testicular cancer, and reduces the risk of prostate cancer.(5) Altered animals are less likely to contract deadly, contagious diseases spread through bodily fluids, such as feline AIDS and leukemia.

Female cats and dogs should be spayed soon after the age of 8 weeks. Males should be neutered at 8 weeks of age, but both spaying and neutering can be done safely through most of adulthood. Some shelters are encouraging earlier spaying and neutering, which can be less stressful for animals.(6) Younger animals also recuperate faster from surgery.(7)

The one-time cost of spaying or neutering is less than the costs involved in raising puppies or kittens (which include food, shots, training, and time) and is far less than the cost that communities must pay toward animal control and euthanasia. Many cities have low-cost spay and neuter clinics to encourage owners to be responsible before they are faced with unwanted animals and before the animals themselves must pay with their lives. Many states now have legislation that mandates spaying and neutering or restricts breeding. For more information, see PETA’s “Model Spay and Neuter Ordinances” list. "

http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=134
**********************************************************************

Where do you get such rot?

[TooBigaTent]

20. Just ignore the asshole. Probably still blows up frogs ala Shrub.

[Damian the LHP]

29. Don't you have school?

Go do your homework, teenager.

[cobalt1999]

25. PETA raises the hackles to get more money from folks like you.

It doesn't make people think a little bit deeper. If that was their goal, their methods would be totally different.

They are counting on folks like you who want them to be in the news. Without that they'd make no money.

[underseasurveyor]

28. I don't send them money.

Hell I'm a poor girl but I can certainly take notice of the cause of mistreated and abused animals and do something about it... like change my lifestyle. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out and it's not hard.

And BTW it did get me to think a bit deeper. By the power of one.

[Damian the LHP]

11. PETA: Domestic Terrorism

I hate that there are so many so-called "animal lovers" who continue supporting these freaks. I'm personally of the mind that they ought to be wiped from my country. I wouldn't allow other terrorist groups to operate on my home soil, why should I give them a free pass?

[ZombieHorde]

26. How do you define terrorism?

[Damian the LHP]

30. How about...

...disseminating graphic pamphlets to children?
...sponsoring speaking events advocating violence?
...giving legal aid and money to a convicted terrorist arsonist?

PETA has done ALL of these, and more.

[flvegan]

31. Graphic pamphlets is terrorism?

A speaking event that advocates violence. Hmmm...or a speaking event where a particular person may have said something stupid? Because if you stand by your first statement, I think the ACLU and Code Pink are both terrorist orgs.

And yes, the unconvicted accused should never receive any kind of aid, you ConsumerFreedom touting cutie-pie!

[ZombieHorde]

32. None of those are terrorist activities.

...sponsoring speaking events advocating violence?

There hasn't been any violence in the U.S. in the name of animal rights.

convicted terrorist arsonist?

Though arson is serious, he did not hurt anyone. Do nonviolent people really terrify you?

[Sheets of Easter]

13. What a bunch of tiresome assholes.

I've never seen an advocacy group do so much to undermine their own cause.

[donco6]

16. Ick. That is all.

[Cerridwen]

17. They sure as hell missed their target demographic on that one.

What is the name of that strategy/theory in which a person or group takes an idea or ideology to such an extreme that others of "their group" look "normal" by comparison.

PETA's definitely one of those groups. And their demographic targeting sucks rocks if they're catching people in agreement with them with their little "gotcha" gimmick.

[pink-o]

19. PETA's objective should be to get their very important message across

But unfortunately, like so may screamy, obssessive shrill liberals, the tactics they use are a total turn-off to the mainstream. The moment anyone hears about something like this, or the blood on the fur coats, or the screaming about people's dinner being dead things, the ones PETA are trying to reach are totally turned off. The moment people stop listening, you've failed.

I know this personally. I've been a vegetarian for over 30 years--and it would have been longer, since I first became one in 1971 when I was sixteen. But I moved away to Europe when I was 18 and with very little support and access to what I chose to eat, I became an omnivore for 4 years inbetween. And let me tell you, I'm not shy about espousing my opinions! I used to lecture my friends, acquaintances and strangers all the time about the evils of eating flesh and wearing skins--I'm lucky they tolerated me as long as they did. Now that I'm old, I understand you can't go around beating people up re your philosophy. It's as bad as those crazy fundies coming to your door to tell you your soul's in peril: just because you believe something is right doesn't give you license to bully or belittle others if they act differently.

In a Pink-O perfect world, no one would eat meat, all land would be farmed responsibly, there'd be no more processed, unhealthy crap in our grocery stores and animals who give us eggs, dairy and pollinate our agriculture would never be exploited. But I don't run the world and neither does PETA.

And speaking of bees, hasn't PETA ever heard the one about attracting more flies with honey...?

(edited to add eggs to the list. Organic, free-range eggs do not harm chickens)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. People Eating Tasty Animals?

:shrug:

[NeedleCast]

24. I miss that website

an excellent generator of poutrage.

[petronius]

33. Cruel, ineffective, and freakin' hilarious

I would be interested to know if there has ever been any scholarly assessment of whether campaigns like this are beneficial. PETA can't possibly believe that they'll sway the people who fell for the hoax, but they obviously think that they'll spark a thought in people who hear about it. I wonder it that's true... :shrug: