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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:01 PM
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An election about personality?
The GOP-controlled media has been pushing the GOP talking point that the 2008 presidential election is not about issues, rather it is about personality, specifically John McCain's personality.

Not his personality in the way regular people would perceive the meaning of the word, but the myth surrounding his life story and the type of person they wish to associate with their narrow definition of "courage" and "values". It is the hope of the GOP that "personality" is confused with "mythology" for their candidate and "celebrity" for the Democratic candidate, Obama.

But, what if people didn't take the definition of "personality" that way? What if people understand it another way?

The "mythology = personality" meme has yet to set in, so maybe there's still a chance to subvert the propaganda and keep the reality in the forefront.

The dictionary defines personality without mentioning mythology:
3 a: the complex of characteristics that distinguishes an individual or a nation or group; especially : the totality of an individual's behavioral and emotional characteristics b: a set of distinctive traits and characteristics <the energetic personality of the city>

--Merriam-Webster


Another common, more revealing and also mythology-free understanding of the word "personality" is the scientific or psychiatric use of the word, as in: personality disorder.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (or DSM-IV for short) lists 10 different personality disorders, Wikip*dia lists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Personality_disorders">19.

Of the 10 (or 19), there are two that seem to pop up most often when discussing the wild and wooly world of Machiavellian politics. One is the Narcissistic personality disorder.

It is the second, the antisocial personality (sometimes called sociopathic personality disorder) or sociopath, which will be the focus of this post.

Dr. Robert Hare has been a researcher in the field of psychopathy for over 35 years and actually developed a set of checklists used by police departments to weed out new recruits likely to be sociopaths.

To develop his checklists, he studied criminals in jails, but has recently turned his sights on the corporate boardroom.

On the broad continuum between the ethical everyman and the predatory killer, there's plenty of room for people who are ruthless but not violent. This is where you're likely to find such people as Ebbers, Fastow, ImClone CEO Sam Waksal, and hotelier Leona Helmsley.

(...)

together with New York industrial psychologist Paul Babiak, Hare begins marketing the B-Scan, a personality test that companies can use to spot job candidates who may have an MBA but lack a conscience. "I always said that if I wasn't studying psychopaths in prison, I'd do it at the stock exchange," Hare told Fast Company. "There are certainly more people in the business world who would score high in the psychopathic dimension than in the general population. You'll find them in any organization where, by the nature of one's position, you have power and control over other people and the opportunity to get something."

(...)

Babiak found that these organizational shake-ups created a welcoming environment for the corporate killer. "The psychopath has no difficulty dealing with the consequences of rapid change; in fact, he or she thrives on it," Babiak claims. "Organizational chaos provides both the necessary stimulation for psychopathic thrill seeking and sufficient cover for psychopathic manipulation and abusive behavior."

--FastCompany.com


Naturally, the GOP will desperately try to spin this to their benefit. They are sure to obsess on the use of the word "change" to deflect any scrutiny from their own Party's behavior and project it onto others.

But, not accepting blame is just what a sociopath would do.

In fact, there's a whole list of things sociopaths are more likely to do than normal people. Try to see which ones sound like the behaviors of the "personalities" on the Republican ticket:
(excerpts)
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

--R. Preston McAfee, CalTech


It is important to point out that unlike amateur internet psychiatrists, Dr. Hare is careful to avoid a misdiagnosis by distinguishing certain traits from others:
Factor 1: The callous, selfish, remorseless use of others
Facet 1a: Interpersonal
Facet 1b: Affective
Factor 2: A chronically unstable and antisocial lifestyle
Facet 2a: Impulsive Lifestyle
Facet 2b: Antisocial Behavior

--PearsonAssessments.com


The DSM is also careful not to misdiagnose by distinguishing "symptoms" (that anyone can perceive) and diagnostic criteria, which fit a stricter definition as well as requiring a minimum of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathic_personality_disorder#Diagnostic_criteria">three (of the seven) criteria in addition to the absence of other disorders before making the diagnosis of "sociopath".

Even the authors of the several books speculating on current president George W. Bush's mental fitness are careful to remind their readers that long-distance, Frist-like mind-reading cannot replace in-person, clinical diagnoses.

But, this is the internet! If it is possible for Dr. Hare to apply his checklist to CEOs, doesn't it stand to reason that there may also be a way to apply it to the politicians on the Republican ticket as well?

Naomi Klein may have stumbled onto a long history of such ruthless behavior in her book, Shock Doctrine. Klein's book documents how University of Chicago economics professor and Republican idol, Milton Friedman, developed and tested "disaster capitalism" in Chile maintaining the myth of its superiority to other systems despite the wishes of the Chilean people and reality proving its failure over and over.

The most important aspect of the antisocial personality is the inability to care about another's feelings. After the GOP's collective attack on community organizers, it is clear which ticket cares less about others.

Perhaps the GOP are right; this is an election about personality.


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LINK

The Unburdened Mind, includes a simple checklist.

Shock Doctrine, a short film, probably not safe for some workplaces.

Dealing with everyday sociopaths

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder">Wikip*dia page on Antisocial personality disorder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder">Wikip*dia page on Narcissistic personality disorder.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:03 PM
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1. ALL elections are about personality and appearances, otherwise Dennis Kucinich would be our nominee.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:04 PM
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3. Maybe Moonbeam McCrazypants talking to aliens didn't help much either.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:16 PM
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4. No, it didn't, but if folks here were truly progressive, he and Feingold would rule this board. nt
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:19 PM
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5. There are too many ignorant people on the other side ...
... you know full well it's not practical--at this point--to vote progressive nationally.

Plus, that's not what the OP is about.


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:19 PM
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6. If I were a "true progressive", I would support someone who talks to aliens...
and will make new cabinet level positions based on his faith.

Meh. You can keep your "true progressive".
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:24 PM
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10. Are you talking about Dennis? or McSame?
Because Dennis said he has seen an unidentified flying object? Is that what you are talking about?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:12 PM
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22. Yep. People vote for the person they "just like" instead of the focusing on
the issues. That's why the trivial crap matters to the average Joe, and that's why we CAN'T back off issues that expose the GOP sleazebags for the compulsive greedy liars that they are.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:04 PM
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2. The notion that anybody running for President in our lifetimes had a better personality than Obama..
is laughable.

They mean something else.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:19 PM
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7. "They mean something else." And the OP (me) meant something else too. n/t
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:39 PM
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8. how did she get into beauty pageants? Was her mother a tyrant?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 07:41 PM
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9. Who knows? Maybe the town was so small there was little else to do?
Or maybe she just believed she was pretty enough?

Who cares, she's a sociopath.


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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:51 AM
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15. I've realized that I will have difficulty being sure that my assessment of Failin Palin
will be suspect because her vibe and her look and even that awful, awful voice is like that of my stepmother, who was, quite sociopathic. Well, maybe borderline, but either way, not qualified to be VP (in the case of my stepmother - not qualified to be a mother). So, I think I'm seeing the same thing, but I must defer, because even though many are saying the same thing, my vision is not unclouded.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:05 PM
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17. Maybe your vision is better since you know what to look for?
One of the links at the bottom of the page is to an interview of Martha Stout, author of The Sociopath Next Door.

She has some interesting advice for people who come in contact with family members, boyfriends/girlfriends, etc who have sociopathic tendencies.

Don't know how they could work with politicians though.


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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:53 PM
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18. what was her mother like?
the type that entered their child in beauty pageants?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:26 PM
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11. I hope people see it. Ted Bundy passed a lie detector test too!
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 08:26 PM by lonestarnot
:scared:
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 08:31 PM
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12. Thank you. I remember reading the article about Hare when it first came out.
People were so shocked that CEOs might have something wrong with them.

I wasn't a bit surprised.


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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:26 PM
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13. Sounds like the same diagnosis as prez shit-for-brains...
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-08 09:35 PM
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14. It seems the GOP uses Hare's checklist to find not screen-out candidates. n/t
Edited on Sat Sep-06-08 09:35 PM by ColbertWatcher
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:55 PM
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16. Sunday kick. n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:57 AM
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19. Monday kick. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 09:19 PM
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20. Interesting - I think these people are missing something
Call it heart, or soul, or a conscience, or whatever - they then try to fill the vacuum inside themselves with money, power, and thuggery. They take advantage of the fact that non-sociopaths find it hard to believe that these people are truly social monsters who will stop at nothing to grab what they want. This is boosted by the control of the mass media by the far right who are ruining this country. They try to keep the public ignorant of what is really happening, and most Americans seem not to realize that they are being lied to and savaged by a bunch of sociopathic criminals.

It is as hard for the good to suspect evil, as it is for the bad to suspect good. -Marcus Tullius Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 BCE)



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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:09 PM
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21. One of the links at the bottom ...
... is to an interview with author Martha Stout, who wrote The Sociopath Next Door.

And she gives some great advice on how to deal with every day sociopaths, but I wasn't sure if it could apply to sociopaths who are your bosses or who are elected officials.

(here's the link:http://www.bookbrowse.com/author_interviews/full/index.cfm?author_number=1097)


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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:34 PM
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23. To the extent that psychopaths have political preferences
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 10:37 PM by Tallison
they're WAY likelier to be Republican, with its hierarchy-promotional platform of self-interest and gratification.

While I've heard McCain has a pathological temper, I don't know enough to suspect him of a personality disorder. No doubt a lot of politicians are narcissistic.

When I think antisocial PD, I definitely think Kissinger and Rove.


ETA: I read one of Hare's books following the promotion of a certain battle axe at work, and it's a fascinating observation that the majority of APDs are NON-VIOLENT exactly for reasons of self preservation.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 01:59 PM
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24. Last chance pity kick. n/t
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