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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:02 AM
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Lieberman: `Time for Israel to Act` Against Iran
http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=2942


In all the coverage of Joe Lieberman’s address to the Christians United for Israel gala last month, only Justin Vogt, writing for The National, seems to have noticed that Lieberman tacitly called for Israel to attack Iran...



Lieberman, McCain, Palin all in the pocket of the AIPAC.
Besides security issues, Israel has major pipeline investments and hopes to channel
Caspian oil/gas/water through Turkey to Israel, then to be sold to Asia.
They would become a major transportation hub for the transmission of these resources.

Turkey, Israel in joint energy project to link Asia to Caspian
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=110151
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:04 AM
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1. And I'll bet Liebermann is doing everything in his power to see that it
happens in October. I can't believe this warmonger was ever a part of the party that I love so much.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:04 AM
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2. Is it not a violation of some law for a sitting US Senator to encourage
one country to attack another?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:06 AM
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3. another ploy to get the war mongers out to the polls in force..
I can hear it now..."we can't afford to have another administration take over when we are a country at war! We are keeping you safe"....blah blah blah...

I honestly don't think they can do it that quickly.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:08 AM
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6. He might have raised the strong rhetoric an octave at that time as part of
pressure being applied to Iran by the U.S. and Israel. Just as Iran called for death to Israel.
Which is not to say that he wouldn't WANT to attck Iran. I just don't think that is realistic
or a move that our allies would rally around due to China and Russia's backing of Iran (or at least
their unwillingness to back an attack).
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:16 AM
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11. You're thinking of the Logan Act, and it would not apply here.
Holy Joe is still a POS for spewing this kind of thing - as if the situation over there was not tense and sensitive enough.

:thumbsdown:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:39 AM
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14. Not necessarily Logan. I am just guessing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:07 AM
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4. Does he have shit for brains?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:09 AM
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7. If he had any, that is what they would be made of...
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:12 AM
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8. Indubitibly. He needs an enema.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:19 AM
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12. Even shit has the ability to fertilize...Joe's
brains not so much!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:07 AM
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5. Someone should give Lieberman his own jet.
Load it up with all the ordinance he could possibly need. Send him to Iran. Let him see how fun war is firsthand.

Fun fact: a writer (I can't remember whom) sat in the same theater as Lieberman during a showing of "Behind Enemy Lines." When Owen Wilson's character did something to foil his pursuers, Lieberman literally pumped his fist and stood up. LAME.
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kurth_ Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:14 AM
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9. parachute optional
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 12:14 AM by kurth_
Damn warmongering backstabber.
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:16 AM
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10. Should any or all of us ask Al Gore why he chose Lieberman?
Why did all of us vote for Gore/Lieberman in 2000?? I've had it with all of these idiots.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:19 AM
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13. To appease the AIPAC?
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 12:43 AM by Dover
A VERY powerful group. And in truth, many of our own national interests have gotten tied up with Israel's.

Who knows, maybe they were behind Gore's demise, if he didn't do/say what they wanted to hear.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:16 AM
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20. Yes, of course, AIPAC must have caused Gore's demise...
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 03:16 AM by LeftishBrit
disenfranchising the Jews, as well as other minority groups, of Florida and fraudulently keeping the first elected Jewish Vice-President out of office are exactly the things that that they'd most support.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: in case it's needed.

Paranoia about the influence of foreigners or 'foreigner-lovers' deflects from placing the blame where it usually squarely belongs: in our own governments; our own systems; our own voters - i.e. ourselves.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:42 AM
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15. Obama and Brzezinski—Ill-Suited and Sending a Mixed Message to Jews
"Zbig" might as well have warned Obama not to make any appeal to Jews at all last week, as the damage caused by Brzezinski's comments was greater than the good achieved by Obama's. Brzezinski went on to say, instead, that the pro-Israel lobby in the United States is too powerful, while the slur of anti-Semitism is too readily used whenever its power is called into question.



http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/5/28/obama-and-brzezinski--ill-suited-and-sending-a-mixed-message-to-jews.html
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:03 AM
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16. Anti-Semitism never goes out of style...even among so-called liberals.
I find it morbidly facinating that some here can readily excuse bigotry, as long as it is the nasty, dirty Jews who are the target.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:21 PM
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27. Oh please. So you are suggesting that the AIPAC represents ALL Jews?
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 12:23 PM by Dover
No of course not, any more than fundamentalist Christians or evangelical zealots represent ALL Christians. Are you or those of the Jewish faith bigots if you say a critical word about those Christian groups?

Perhaps what people REALLY resent is the defense of the AIPAC or any extremist religious groups with those same old "anti-semitic" arguments. And BTW, did you happen to notice the source of that article?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:02 PM
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31. You do understand what anti-Semitism is, correct?
It doesn't matter the source of the OP article, I wasn't saying it was anti-Semitic. I didn't say or suggest AIPAC represents all American Jews. I was commenting on your clip about "Zbig." I still think it is sad so many can't see anti-Semitism unless someone is painting a swatistika or calling someone a kike. Did you read your own article? Do you not understand why his comments are anti-Semitic?
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:07 AM
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17. Moldy Joe the Hoe has never had a first allegiance to this country
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 03:08 AM by FKA MNChimpH8R
He is a bought and paid for creature of the Likud and AIPAC. He would sell this country out for a handful of nickels if it advanced Israeli (not the same thing as legitimate Jewish) interests,
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:08 AM
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18. Care to back up your assertion?
Somehow I doubt it. I love the casual anti-Semitic "Jews love money" crack...classy all the way! :eyes:
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:15 AM
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19. Read my edited post
I realized that I did not speak clearly in my original post. The interests of the Jewish people, whom I support, are nowhere coextensive with the interests of the Likud and AIPAC. The latter are imperialist organizations the like of which Abba Eban, Ehud Barak and other courageous, non-imperialist Israelis would never have countenanced. I am attacking a political worldview, not the Jewish people.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:18 AM
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21. Makes no difference.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 03:19 AM by Behind the Aegis
Care to back up your assertion he is bought and paid for by the Likud. You do realize you are accusing him of dual-loyalty, yes? You do realize this is an age-old anti-Semitic charge?

ETA: YOu may not realize it, but your post drips with anti-Semitic rhetoric. It may not be what you intended, but it is there nonetheless.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:03 AM
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24. Anti-Semitism? The Jewish bosses, colleagues and friends I have had over the
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 06:12 AM by FKA MNChimpH8R
last 35 years will be thrilled to be informed by your insight. The Likud party, the Jewish people and the state of Israel are not the same thing. Far from it in the eyes of any Jew I have ever known, Whatever accusation I am making, I make only against Joseph Lieberman and the people who are financially behind him. No other American Jew I have ever known has put his or her allegiance to AIPAC and the Likud Party over his or her allegiance to America,

For two years I worked as the law clerk for a Jewish judge who was a better man than my gentile father and whose respect and opinion I cherish. I revere him more than my own blood relatives and love him as the best "uncle" I never had. Not once in the 15 years I have known him has he ever failed to give me wise and sage advice. He had no time whatsoever for Zionist imperialists and he lived in Israel for four years. In my lifetime, this German-American boy from Minnesota has been treated better by Jewish Americans as friends, teachers and bosses than by any other ethnic group.

Edited for sloppy late night typing.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:11 PM
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32. I don't care who you know.
I don't care how many Jews have passed your doorsteps. You don't get a pass.

"He is a bought and paid for creature of the Likud and AIPAC. He would sell this country out for a handful of nickels if it advanced Israeli (not the same thing as legitimate Jewish) interests,"

Fucking prove it! I know, I know, I shouldn't challenge your anti-Semitic accusation because it is just being a "bully." Well, nertz to that! You and other posters make the same anti-Semitic claim time and time again. I have never seen one poster prove Lieberman is more loyal to Israel or would sell out the US over Israeli interests. What I do see are responses like yours....you know and love Jews (not in question), you are being "shut down" when only trying to criticize Israel (not what you are personally doing), and there are some other excuses.

I didn't ask what your interactions were with Jews, it is irrelevant to what I did ask. I never said you were anti-Semitic, I said your post was; there is a difference. You never answered the question: Can you prove your assertion?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:19 AM
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22. Stupid warmonger; he's as bad as Blair and his 'Labour' pals
And anyone who hangs around with Hagee, and now Palin, is no real friend of Israel - or of anywhere in the world if it comes to that.
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Ani Yun Wiya Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 05:31 AM
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23. Only two words come to my mind regarding this individual.
Warmonger.
Crusader.
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LVZ Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:11 AM
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25. Google results 68,000+ - Lieberman warmonger n/t
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:15 AM
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26. I think that this is going to be our October surprise this year
Israel's going to go off on Iran, and the US will, one way or another, be dragged into the mess also. It fits right in with the image the 'Pugs are trying to project with McCain and Caribou Barbie, plus it will panic everybody ala the Shock Doctrine, and thus Obama loses. Sadly I can see it happening all too easily.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:26 PM
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28. I think Iran may be off the table regarding an attack by either the US or Israel.
Unless they also wanted to take on China and Russia and who knows who else.
Neither is in a position to attack Iran, imo.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:38 PM
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29. You left out the "alone"in that statement, Joe
fuck him and his special interest group
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:41 PM
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30. Iran War in two weeks
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Exua2b5LY

At least if Cheney Rice Lieberman and Cheney and Bush have any say over it

Its coming folks
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:12 PM
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33. Time for Reid and the 'leadership' to ACT against LIEberman
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 01:13 PM
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34. Droopy Dog loves sending other peoples' kids to kill other peoples' kids.
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