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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:59 AM
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What do people in Alaska really think about the beauty queen?
Vetting, Wooten and Troopergate

snip...

In 2005, Palin and her sister Molly went to the Palmer Courthouse while Mike Wooten was in Portland with his stepson. They convinced a judge to grant Molly a domestic violence restraining order against Wooten. This was done so Molly could retain full custody of the children.

When Wooten returned from Portland, he realized that there was a order prohibiting him from seeing his kids. Three weeks later, Wooten was granted an appearance in front of the couple's divorce judge.

In front of Judge Suddock, Molly testified that Wooten never hit her or never physically abused her or ever touched the children. She told the judge she was feeling pressure from her family to file the order.

Suddock immediately dissolved the order because there was no proof of any domestic violence and called the order an abuse of the legal system. He then scolded Palin's sister for keeping Wooten's kids away from him. Much more...

http://www.andrewhalcro.com/

Tons of info on this case and other items about the mystery lady.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:01 AM
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1. Sarah Palin is a bully.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:05 AM
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2. Maybe a CRIMINAL Bully...
Like the VP we have now.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:10 AM
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3. I think she is in the same mold.
Don't underestimate her. She is vicious and Obama cannot afford to look weak against her. That would be bad.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:36 AM
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4. YUP....looking real similar......Bullies??? read the link
http://www.alternet.org/story/16243

its about How the Bullies use Empty Language to make us feel good as they rob us....rats bastids.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:36 AM
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11. Thanks for that link...a good read.
The GOP is a den of snakes.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:41 AM
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5. It's a family affair. Todd is surely to blame, too.
As the Shadow Governor, he must be at least Hillary to her Bill. (I mean no disrespect with the comparison.)
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:01 AM
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8. It's a reflection of this woman's self-serving strong arm bullshit.
If she can't run a family how the hell will she run this country?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:45 AM
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6. BTW...I hope to God they question her re HISTORY 101.01 to the present
Peeps with a firm grip of History have better odds to avoid making the same mistakes of Mankind....this is one trend we wish to minimize....

at the very minimum...basic history focusing on differing systems and the results....Our Leader Filter should include basic History...

Just hoping

Opi
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:06 AM
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10. The crew who is behind this lady will not let her open her mouth
without everything being set up to her advantage first. Just like they did it with Bush. They can't afford for people to see the real deal.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:17 AM
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12. Got a chance of doing it if we let um...we gatta work hard....
Come, we plan Luau
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:59 AM
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15. We are fighting the GOP and the crooked vote counters.
Some dummycrats in Washington still trust the GOP...how stupid is that? Again it's "Too Late To Fix Those Crooked Machines" just like in 2004.

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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:43 AM
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19. Palin obviously doesn't know much history. She thinks the Pledge of Allegiance was around
at the time of our Founding Fathers.

I've had a hypothesis that there's a direct correlation between how conservative you are and how ignorant you are on history.
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Liberalatus Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 11:07 AM
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24. lol
There is DEFINITELY a correlation. The funny things is, for every conservative I correct on these little "facts", they never stick!! They continue repeating the same wrong information! WTH is wrong with these people? They have their own version of history, and its interwoven with their political philosophy, which uses religion to strengthen it, and you've got a genuine "religious" belief, instead of just a political philosophy.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 12:21 PM
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25. Maybe STEPFORD SHEEPLE....stuck on the talking points....?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 03:46 AM
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7. Palin, like Bush, believes government is to serve their personal whims.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:03 AM
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9. Karl didn't have time to erase this lady's record like he did for
Bush.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:33 AM
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13. yet she of so little experience is chosen while the Bushies exploit 9-11
You have to be drop-dead dumb to vote for this GOP ticket. :patriot:

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 06:53 AM
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14. "drop-dead dumb"
Edited on Sun Sep-07-08 06:55 AM by Hubert Flottz
The GOP is totally eat up with it. Some people never learn, because they are brain dead. It's a GOPer family value, stupidity. Reagan set out to "Dumb Down America" and he pulled it off. Reagan started America down the high speed road to ruin we find ourselves upon today. The gradual downhill slide started under US Grant and the republicans have ruined the country a little more with each republican administration that came to power since Grant. By the wealthy and for the wealthy is what the GOP stands for. Everyone else are "Untermensch" to the people who manage the "Human Herd" and their propagandists.

Sara is a "made" lady...a neomobster.

GTSY!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:00 AM
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16. The Bushies have tried to fill every DoD position they can w/folks like 3D
of whom you speak.

GTSY2! Deutsche Telecom is the worst, so I'm still not connected unless on some hotel's wireless.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:05 AM
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17. They know they lose if the deck is not stacked in their favor.
The GOP don't have a chance running on the real issues that count to 98% of Americans.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:40 AM
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18. makes me wonder how far they'll go before losing it all
as they're about to...

The upcoming Supreme Court picks are going to be so important to the welfare of the country.

Also, the US has a huge problem with its media. That needs to be addressed under the next administration. Voters (and those who don't vote) would be more aware of/concerned about the issues if corporations weren't controlling the info flow.

I don't watch TV anymore, even when I have one. I can access anyone who has something intelligent to say on-line. I really enjoy Jonathan Turley's commentary on Keith Olbermann...wish I could take his classes.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:19 AM
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23. The neocons are all cowards.
Scared of losing, scared of fighting the fights that they stir up. All mouth.

Their military records speak for the cowardly scoundrels.

The GOP bosses always send the poor people's kids to bleed and die and the wealthy reap all the profit. How many people in the "Office Of Special Plans" who cooked up this elective invasion and lied us into Iraq, ever served in the military? 0
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 07:51 AM
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20. Look the guy ADMITTED he tasered his son!
Wouldn't you call that abuse?
He's also been married four times and I understand that all four of the wives have said "abuse".
I believe them.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:02 AM
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21. You're right - the firing of his boss is the issue
If I had a sister married to this guy, I'm not sure I wouldn't be insisting she go tell the judge about it, and I wouldn't be surprised if she reneged later, as abused people often do.

This ugly family stuff happens all the time - it's only when you use your job to go after someone who wouldn't hop to your bidding that it becomes a problem
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:03 PM
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26. Yes but many people are going to see this as justified because
this guy is a rogue cop and a nut. It could backfire.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 09:12 AM
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22. The point is there is a legal system to deal with crime.
This lady tried to circumvent the legal system, just like the neocons and Bush ALWAYS do.

Our legal system is not good enough for the likes of Sara and the GOP. Laws are for poor people the way they look at it.

TYFYC...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 02:14 PM
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27. k*r Nice to get the goods from the people involved
Great stuff. I forwarded the link to American Politics Journal, which did such a good early article
on this. "The Eagleton has landed" and McCain and Co. don't even know it.

Get ready for the greatest "sour grapes" resignation press conference of all time, brought to
you by Don King Productions (Pay per view, contact your local cable provider;)

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 04:47 PM
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28. "sour grapes" turns to whine
I don't think the GOPers are smart enough to ever admit they're wrong about anything. It's why the country is hanging on by it's fingernails right now. A smart person sees his mistakes and changes course before he crashes into the reef, but a fool "stays the course" when every indicator screams danger ahead. The GOP would sooner see this country destroyed than to admit that they have been wrong all along. Reminds me of how Hitler let Germany be almost totally flattened because of his arrogance and selfishness. The GOP wants to drown the American dream in Grover's bathtub.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-08 08:50 PM
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29. ... but a fool "stays the course"
Yep, didn't somebody write a book like that.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:35 AM
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30. The GOP don't have both oars in the water...
It's why the "Great Ship of State" keeps going around in an endless circle and headed down the drain. Trust is a thing of the past in Washington. Democracy, Freedom, Liberty and the "Rule Of Law" are about shot too. Congress is letting the terrorists from within win. Fighting the real bad guys is, "Off The Table"...
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cabbage08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 07:11 AM
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31. Kick n/t
:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:15 PM
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32. I see you and raise that
:kick: :kick:
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