IMO the GOP will start tearing itself apart soon.

[Odin2005]

The appearance of unity in the GOP is a sham. IMO Palin is a last ditch attempt by the religious right to stay relevant. The operatives of the Religious Right shoved Palin down McCain's throat when he really wanted Lieberman or Romney.

Think of the GOP as a car. Big Money is in the driver's seat and the Religious Right is in the front passenger seat. The neocons have been in the back seat making sure the two get along. Now the neocons are being tossed to the curb by both and Big Money and the Religious Right are fighting for control of the steering wheel, during this whole time the car is careening towards a cliff.

The see 2 things that could happen over the next 10 years or so:

1. Big Money purges the influence Religious Right in the Republican Party out of fear that thier populist religious insanity is ultimately bad for business. The Religious Right takes thier ball and goes home, becoming apolitical as they were before the 1970s.

2. The Religious Right takes control of the Republican Party. Big Money bolts and joins the Libertarian Party. The Republican Party ends it's days as a minor party of religious nut-jobs and the Libertarian Party becomes the new right-wing party in the US. some of the more moderate paleoconservatives, like Snowe and Spector, switch to the Dems.

Either way, once we kick thier asses this November expect the GOP to go into meltdown.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

1. I don't see how the Religious Right getting its social wishes harms Big Money.

so long as Big Money gets its wishes to trash the environment, trash workers' rights, and trash any regulation of business. Please enlighten me.

[Odin2005]

6. The Religious Right is based on a form of right-wing populism.

Huckabee is the prime example of this kind of populism, and the GOP party elites destroyed him. Big Money, of course, doesn't like populists. The Religious Right is only tolerated as long as they fall in line as the junior partner and forget the "populism thing". Huckabee was the crack in the dam because he took the "populism thing" seriously, and now the Religious Right have put a "female Huckabee" on the GOP ticket.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

17. Huckabee is just a fool and a fake populist.

He's just in it to make some bucks and hear himself talk for the ego strokes.

[Odin2005]

18. I disagree.

If he was a fake populist the GOP bigwigs wouldn't have worked against his candidacy.

[Elidor]

2. Big Money is quite happy to dance with the fundies if that's what it takes.

They're sluts like that. And Libertarians don't begin to have enough of a power base for Big Money to take them seriously.

Like the cockroaches they are, the GOP has shown an amazing ability to survive. If this country wasn't dominated by corporate media masquerading as "news," McCain would be polling in the low 30's. And even his eventual win or loss is only of very short-term significance to the GOP. Electoral defeats don't stop them. Holding extreme positions in defiance of the rest of the country doesn't hurt them. They might scurry into hiding when a bright light is thrown on them, but they're soon back, as unstoppable as ever. They will never die, only mutate.

[treestar]

8. The thing about Big Money is they want to sell crap

More and more of it. So the Sexual Revolution is in their interests. More breakups, more households, more weddings (more than one per person), divorces (think of the lawyers :rofl:). That is why, on social issues, the media is indeed "liberal." It's only right wing on issues that benefit it, like they get high ratings from war, that's why they salivate over wars.

[Odin2005]

11. Exactly. Big Money is Libertarian, they are liberal on social issues.

The Religious Right doesn't like that, of course. They are on the extreme right on social issues and tend to be somewhat moderate on economic issues.

[FarLeftRage]

3. I will NOT welcome snowe and spector

into the Democratic Party...

No how, No way.

They are both hard-core republiSCUM!!

Ask spector about his role in the Warren Commission... he will FOREVER be a fucking asshole for that!

[baby_mouse]

4. They're toast.

They haven't a fucking clue what to do. Everything they touch turns to shit.

[GoesTo11]

5. Romney's worrying that Palin will usurp him as heir apparent

He gave that red meat speech to position himself for 2012, but she is now the de facto future of the party. Will he and his'n do anything to slow down the Palin express?

[Odin2005]

10. Yep. Romney = Big Money, Palin = Religious Right

The Religious Right is getting pissed that Roe v. Wade hasn't been overturned and other aspects of thier religious agenda haven't been implemented They forced Palin down McCain's throat as a "shot across the bow."

[lpbk2713]

7. You can hear the desperation in the RW Radio Hatemongers

The way they have to stretch to make some silly-ass point. They know they will have to conform to the Fairness Doctrine after January and it scares the bejesus out of them. I listen in occasionally just for laughs (I can only take a few minutes at a time) and I have to wonder if it doesn't occur to them how badly they are embarrassing themselves.

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[seemslikeadream]

9. The Democrats better be very wary of Repub wolfs in sheep clothing

[alfredo]

12. Thanks for the inspiration. Here's a letter I just wrote using your

ideas.


I am of the opinion that Sarah Palin is the last gasp of the theocrats that have controlled the GOP since the eighties. If Palin pulls down McCain's campaign, the theocratic right is done as a political power in America.

I am disappointed that McCain allowed them to force Palin on him. He had two very competent choices in Lieberman and Tom Ridge, but both were unacceptable to the theocrats and those working in their behalf.

If McCain wasn't courageous enough to say no to special interests and his own party, then how is he going to fare against Putin or Ahmadinejad?


One question:

Should this be

but both were unacceptable to the theocrats and those working in their behalf.

or

but both were unacceptable to the theocrats and those working on their behalf.

I am that close to clicking the send button, so I will wait for opinions.

[Odin2005]

13. "On" sounds right.

"in thier behalf" just sounds wrong.

[alfredo]

14. "In" means for their benefit. You do that for friends. "On" means you are

directly working as agents for that group or person. I think "in" would be correct if I am saying those pushing Palin believe in the cause. "On" implies they are in their employ.

Though I like "on", and sounds better, "in" seems like the appropriate word to use.

[Odin2005]

15. That's true.

I'm horrible with that kind of deep semantic analysis! :blush: :rofl:

[alfredo]

16. I know. It was all about what I wanted to say about the Party leaders.

Are they in agreement with the theocrats, or are they on the payroll.