Anyone see that 60 mins gusher on Bush and the Surge?

[Phred42]

From Woodward's new Book

I almost couldn't watch the whole thing.

basically: According to Woodward - Bush made brilliant commander -in-chief type moves to FORCE the military to do the surge when they didn't want to :puke: and saved the Iraq invasion from certain failure

If it were true it would contradict what we know about our Village Idiot.

[SpiralHawk]

1. "Smirk. I'm The Decider. Smirk." - Commander AWOL

[deaniac21]

2. What else would you expect from the right wing media?

[riverdeep]

3. This is how it starts.

They float these ideas in their echo chambers, until it seems like a self evident fact that the surge worked, or that Iraq is a dangerous nation that needs to be toppled, or that a stimulus package will jump start the economy, or any of the other pack of lies that represents the McBush plan. On this one:

It is now widely considered beyond dispute that Bush has won his gamble. The surge is a terrific success. Choose your metric: attacks on American soldiers, car bombs, civilian deaths, potholes. They're all down, down, down. Lattes sold by street vendors are up. Performances of Shakespeare by local repertory companies have tripled. Skepticism seems like sour grapes. If you opposed the surge, you have two choices. One is to admit that you were wrong, wrong, wrong. The other is to sound as if you resent all the good news and remain eager for disaster. Too many opponents of the war have chosen option No. 2.

But we needn't quarrel about all this, or deny the reality of the good news, to say that the surge has not worked yet. The test is simple, and built into the concept of a surge: Has it allowed us to reduce troop levels to below where they were when it started? The answer is no.

"No, the surge is not a success."
http://www.slate.com/id/2184890/

Not to mention many other factors like ethnic cleansing had largely been completed. My pet goat is a better military strategist than the Dufus in Chief. Also, what does it mean when someone deliberately runs you over and then helps you up? Do you credit them with running you over, or helping you up?

[klyon]

4. What I saw scared me.

Woodward referred to a secret weapon that has turned the tide in Iraq but he would not be specific for national security. The fact that he raised it it all could be a big problem.

But what he said about Bush not listening to his Generals and in fact replaced them is all true. He did not talk about the bribes and payoffs that as I understand it turned the Iraq from a loser into a winner. Or the fact that the Bush administration is now negotiating with local people that where ethnically wiping out their rivals and forced so many people to flee their homes and country. Woodward is still doing Bush's bidding this is the fourth book. When will someone tell the real story?

But the secret weapon is the scariest thing, probably being readied to turn it on the rest of the world if they haven't already. Democrats, look out Uncle Sam is out to get you. You have no privacy now, they are watching and listening to your every move.

Anyone have a clue what this secret weapon that has turned the tide is?

[Blue_In_AK]

5. 60 Minutes got bumped for women's tennis here.

Probably a good thing.