It. Is. **STILL** All. A. Fucking. Sham.

[Stinky The Clown]

Back in February, I wrote this post. It caught the attention of a few of you here on DU.

Wed Feb-13-08 02:34 PM

It . Is . All . A . Fucking . Sham

Were it not a sham, Congress would be investigating CheneyBush, not some dumb ass meathead of a baseball player.

Were it not a sham, Congress would not underwrite Bush's desire to shield telcos from criminal prosecution.

Were it not a sham, Al Gore would be in the final months of a successful two term presidency and his second term Vice president would be leading in all polling.

Were it not a sham, our Congressional leaders would mount an actual opposition to the cabal.

Were it not a sham, asshats like Slappy and Nino would never have been there to become the models for younger asshats like Alito and Roberts.

Were it not a sham, we'd have presidential primary candidates who we could tell apart by their policies, not their gender, skin color, oratorical prowess, or lack thereof.

Were it not a sham, we would have seen a different outcome of the debacle in Ohio in 2004, particularly in view of the debacle in Florida in 2000.

Were it not a sham, Congress would not have authorized a sociopath to use force against a nation that represented no particular threat except to 'his Daddy'.

Were it not a sham, we would not be burdened by energy policy written by the robber barons of the oil companies.

Were it not a sham, we would be where the entire rest of the industrialized, fully developed world is with respect to our health care.

Every Fucking Day we see it clearer and clearer ...... It . Is . All . A . Fucking . Sham

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2858399

Well here we are ...... and it is all **still** a sham.

Were it not a sham, our country, after eight years of psychological abuse, larceny on the largest scale ever witnessed by mankind, cronyism, abandonment, criminal fraud, and misrepresentation of ***every***thing, would be wildly behind a man who is the very embodiment of the New American Reality.

Instead, we have an angry old man and a lying, conniving, cheating, too ambitious by half young woman who have been promoted by a compliant media in ways even more heavy handed than was the case for the idiot scion of a family congenitally predisposed to lunacy grown out of inbreeding.

There is quite simply no reason the Democratic candidate isn't in a solid lead. No reason.

Well ....... except for a compliant - no - a ***complicit*** media. That is all the difference. They have their story and they're running with it.

Those teevee hosts you love? They're not what they appear. The older ones are long ago compromised. They know their role and they do it well. The new, fresh faced ones are useful for the appearance of balance, but soon enough, they, too, will simply be compromised.

In the meantime, like well trained lab rats, we do what we're supposed to do. We complain. We hand wring. We wail. We curse. We work for change. We work to get people participating. We work to get everyone on t he same page.

I'm tired of this. Really, really tired. I've read this story far too many times. I didn't like the ending the first time and I like it less now.

[Duer 157099]

1. All they need is the media and the voting machinery

I even doubt that these "polls" they keep publishing are anything other than creative writing.

I'm hoping the particle accelerator in Switzerland actually *does* create a black hole and eventually just sucks this whole place into oblivion. I bet there'd be an abrupt loud round of applause by the remaining inhabitants of the cosmos.

[Subdivisions]

2. It is a sham. And we are slaves to it. n/t

[aquart]

3. All or nothing reality?

Your negativity is just not useful. Unless, like mind, you are using it like a charm to protect the coming election. In which case, moan groan wring your hands and wail.

[nichomachus]

30. And your suggestion would be???

Give that the media distorts reality, there is rampant voting fraud afoot, politicians don't read our letters, emails or petitions, they have found how to thwart and neutralize demonstrations, signing online petitions is just a joke.

Tell us what to do -- o wise one -- and don't say "get off your ass and register voters or knock on doors or . . ." The election will be stolen -- you can count on that. And don't say "we need to keep it from being close enough to steal." It doesn't matter. They can manufacture any result they want. They don't need the vote to actually be close, since they control the vote counting. All they need is for people to think that it's going to be close -- that's why polls always show a neck-and-neck horse race. Then, people don't raise an eyebrow when the machines bring in a paper-thin margin.

[leftchick]

4. yes, it is all a shit sandwich

k&r

:(

[markbark]

32. yes, it is all a shit sandwich

...the more bread you have, the less shit you have to eat?

--MAB

[lib2DaBone]

5. Kick.. Heard a good discussion today on the economy...

.. They said that if CONgress had been doing their job, the Fannie May and Freddie Mac bailout would not have been needed. This really is a case of a CONgress that has been bought and paid for by lobbyists.

[FiveGoodMen]

6. If the real vote were 98% to 2% for Obama, then the media and gov't couldn't spin their way out

But way too many 'Murkins are WAY too stupid and selfish to do the right thing.

This could be stopped. But apparently, it won't be.

[robinlynne]

26. How do you know what the real vote is? It isn't what they'e telling you it is; that I guarantee.

[FiveGoodMen]

31. No, but if everyone -- EVERYONE -- that you knew and everyone that THEY knew

...all voted for Obama and the official result was a McCain victory, people would know they'd been had.

[Psyop Samurai]

7. Happy to recommend the sequel. nt

[tnlurker]

8. I have said several times

That if Obama is the real deal and not some sham to pacify us then he will not be allowed to be president. Either the election will be stolen yet again or something will keep him from the taking office in January.

[earth mom]

9. I agree it's all a sham and this election is a sham too because the dems did not run a strong enough

candidate to ensure a landslide victory.

What was it that Edwards warned us all about regarding the "status quo"?

Oh yeah, that they don't "play nice" .

And that you can't nice those people to death.

Nope-you gotta go for the jugular.

Because the only game those assholes understand is hardball.

Which the dems did not bring with this "historic" election.

Bad move and now we're all screwed.

It's really looking like the dems didn't want to win in the first place.

:argh:


Okay, so I'm sure I'll get flamed for this post.

I don't care.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

[Stinky The Clown]

12. **I** will flame you for that

This isn't about Obama. We would be here if we had anybody. They would run different plays with different candidates, but they would run one and we would be here.

The problem isn't our party or our candidates.

It is he MEDIA. And them whut controls the media. They don't give a shit if it is repubican or Democrat. They just need to get in people they can control. Right now, its repubicans. But this is above **their** heads. This goes all they way to the world's facista - the corporate titans that control it **all**

Obama simply doesn't matter in this case. All your post will do is start a minor shitstorm.

That's unhelpful.

[brindis_desala]

17. I agree that on the surface it's a sham, but there is a deeper level as well.

I think people are much more aware than they were in say, 2000. There is no way the Supreme Court could pull that off today. So while it looks bleak for a lot of the reasons you mention we are becoming more enlightened, but it's not an escalator it's a spiral staircase.

[earth mom]

21. Sorry but Obama simply is not popular enough. Gore or Edwards would have been a landslide

and that is something the media could NOT game or could be stolen by the rethugs like they did in 2000 & 2004.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. Shall we let that debate go unresolved until after the election.

We really don't need reignited candidate wars.

[Pastiche423]

25. How can you even speak about johnnyboy

after what he did? Yeah right, a lying, cheating, poseur would be better for the ticket. :eyes:

[Liberalatus]

29. The only problem with that is...

They are masters at playing the "victim" by the big, bad Democrats, the biased media, the insane liberals. More attacks on them, exactly like the ones they use on us, will only strengthen them. It's all ****'ed up until we get the media under control.

[pacalo]

10. For me, there's really no other way to explain the gross negligence going on. It's a sham.

But I do like to hang onto the hampster wheel, hoping that common decency will prevail.

[annabanana]

11. I fear you are right... But I just CAN'T bring myself NOT to

FIGHT. And FIGHT. And FIGHT.

[Gregorian]

13. Yep. I'm feeling it tonight. Disgust.

But the moment after I think about the things you just mentioned, I remember these are the same people who- And the list could be long, so I'll just confine it to radio.

These are the people who listen to commercial radio. Where one can hear the same music one has heard since 1970, over and over, interlaced with the same offensive ads, over and over, with some "professional sounding" dj who is really a pervert, over and over.

Contrast that with how few of us listen to radio where there are no commercials, unique music that represents the newest in musical invention, and dj's who are awesome people in real life.

I don't think many people will even get this.

I'm pretty discouraged. So many Americans are retarded.

[Stinky The Clown]

15. They're not 'retarded' .... they're proudly ignorant. Willfully so. Ignorance has been made stylish

Ignorance is worn like a Gitano Jeans signature emblazoned on their asses.

[Gregorian]

18. Retarded in the sense of delayed.

In 1970 my family had a French exchange student stay with us. She talked about how conscious they were about energy. Just her talk of mopeds was intriguing. What do I see on tv- 400 horsepower cars.

Our restaurants up until not too long ago were just garbage. Now we've swung the other direction. The Food channel. Which is fine. But...argh...I'm digressing.

Try getting a good espresso in Coquille, Oregon. Or even in the liberal town of Mendocino.

Food in general. Or health care. Or anything, I guess. That's why we're on this forum.

The rest of the world passed this country by nearly a century ago, unless one is talking about diodes, or MRI machines, or steel belted radials.

We're retarded when it comes to human related stuff.

A good friend and I used to discuss this stuff long ago. He once said something that I still believe. There are only very few things in life that are important. Cottage cheese, taking a shit, and cats. Something like that.

[Auggie]

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[Cerridwen]

19. Careful with your heart, but...

"Error: You've already recommended that thread."

Yep, we agree. Or perhaps I should say, I agree with you. Eh, it happens. :D

And, like you, "I'm tired of this. Really, really tired."

Beyond that, I'm 'fraid I got nothin'. Today's a tired day for me.

Mostly, I just can't believe we're having serious discussions about things that would have been ridiculed in moments when I was a girl. We've traveled so far into the past I should be feeling much younger rather than older than the hills.

[Stinky The Clown]

20. Hey, why not?

I've agreed with you, too.

Like ya say ..... it happens. :hi:

[deaniac21]

22. The democratic congress will change, big time, when Obama is elected!

[orleans]

24. "There is quite simply no reason the Democratic candidate isn't in a solid lead. No reason."

EXACTLY!

k&r

[AdHocSolver]

27. There is a change in power occurring behind the scenes. The people are not alone in wanting ...

to remove the Bush-Cheney cabal and their neocon and religious fundamentalist backers.

There is an internecine battle going on behind the scenes among the right wing power structure for control of the country.

On the one hand, we have the visible right wing fringe composed of war profiteers, quick buck scam artists, the oil industry, certain large financial institutions, the neocons, the lunatic fringe of the religious right, and right wing media like Fox, the Moony groups, etc.

On the other hand, we have various corporations such as financial institutions not belonging to the previously mentioned group, manufacturing corporations not directly involved in the military-industrial complex, retail companies other than Wal-Mart, religious groups not part of the fundy lunatic fringe, and conservative media not affiliated with the above groups.

Up until now, the latter group was content to let the right wing fringe group control the country, and just go along for the ride.

However, a big change has occurred in the last two years that has awakened the "moderate" right wing to a danger they had not anticipated. The lunatic right wing has brought the U.S. economy to a near meltdown. The coming meltdown could be so severe, that it might bring down the world economy. In other words, the moderate right wing fears that the lunatic right wing could "kill" the proverbial goose that lays the golden eggs.

While the wealthy won't suffer as much as the middle and lower classes, they stand to lose considerable wealth and power. There is subtle evidence that this moderate right wing does not want a McCain-Palin presidency, as this would be a continuation of the Bush disastrous policies. For example, some of the media are challenging McCain and Palin.

You won't see a direct confrontation between these two factions. The ruling elite don't openly fight each other. However, there is a definite indication of a rift between the factions, and it is very likely that McCain-Palin are going to sink come election day.

[tomp]

28. it's the two party system that is a sham.

you appear to have far too much faith in the democratic party (or at least certain members of it, like gore). they are part of the problem.

[followthemoney]

33. Scott Ritter told a long story last Saturday to make the point....

that Americans are like baby birds in their nest: They are too young to have their eyes open but hold their heads back with their mouths wide open.

Anything the media corporations want to feed the public, the trusting public is willing to swallow.

Whatever they want to feed the public, they will, because, like the baby birds, they are waiting for the mama bird to PUKE into their open mouths. They don't care what they swallow as long as they are filled.

[deaniac21]

35. Then he asked to meet you at Burger King?

[Twist_U_Up]

34. good cop,bad cop

What kind of shit do you want in your shit sandwich -- the hot-and-steamy horseshit or the cold-and-crunchy bullshit?