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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:31 PM
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If McCain were to drop out of the race, what would happen to the Republic party?
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 01:31 PM by madinmaryland
Would they have another convention to try and nominate someone else? And who would that be? Huckabee (maybe), Romney(maybe), Palin (probably not).

:shrug:


THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL ONLY. I am in no way saying that I have ANY knowledge of McCain dropping out.

I just want to ponder this.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:31 PM
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1. PALIN HUCKABEE 08 - a Rapturepalooza!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:33 PM
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5. What about Romney?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:33 PM
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6. I don't think the extreme religious right likes Mormons
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:35 PM
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12. You could be right - but she's a westerner
They seem more comfortable with Mormons than Southern religious rightists.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:34 PM
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9. The fire breathing rapturists don't like Romney because he's a mormon.
my neighbor thinks mormons and scientologists are the same thing.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:36 PM
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13. LOL. Perfect!!
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bmbmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:32 PM
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2. You can bet your arse
they wouldn't run Palin.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:34 PM
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10. Oh yes they would.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:32 PM
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3. They'd put Palin in his place and worship her as a Diety?
:shrug:

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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:13 PM
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33. That could force people to think about what she really is
not just what she symbolizes in the soap operas of their lives. If you think about her being president, it is very scary. People talk about the 1980 election where Reagan had to get people to be comfortable that he wouldn't start WWIII. Palin is a person who could do any crazy thing. If something forces moderates to consider realistically the possibility of her being president, I think they'd run away. So far, many people have just thought of her as this nice VP while McCain is the president, and they don't think seriously about what it would be like if he had to step down.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:33 PM
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4. I cringe at typing this... Jed Bush
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:43 PM
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20. Egads! I had forgotten about him. Probably not likely this year though.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:34 PM
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7. Republic party! LOL
I love it! What's good for the goose...
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:34 PM
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8. I was wondering the same thing. Common sense would dictate
that the deep pocket repugs would never consider palin for that role, I don't care whether she's loved by the rw nut jobs or not. I would think who ever had the highest number (I forget, sorry) behind McCain (Romney?) would be the one. I would imagine if we could find the Repug playbook we could find out. If I get a chance I may just see if I can find out what rules apply.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:34 PM
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11. They'd rally around MooseDroppings and give her a MooseCrown.
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MattP Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:38 PM
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14. I looked it up, the RNC picks the nominee
http://www.gop.com/About/Rules6-10.htm The RNC picks the nominee, this is part of rule 9 below,


"only the Republican National Committee is authorized to fill "any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise" for the presidential candidate. The committee re-assembles. According to rule 8-B, they must give five days notice for this meeting. Committee members "representing any state shall be entitled to cast the same number of votes as said state was entitled to cast at the national convention." They continue until a new candidate is chosen with a majority of votes. "
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:43 PM
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19. that's a little scary...
I'd assumed that Palin would become the nominee.

Republicans like Limbaugh and the people on, or who watch, FOX never liked McCain to start with--they're only falling in line now because they had to. What if they chose Huckabee or Romney? (I don't think they'd choose Jeb Bush, hampered as he by that pesky last name.) Those two don't seem batshit crazy... Palin would be fairly easy to beat once she got out in public, but those two guys can talk without a script.

I hope this isn't a "be careful what you wish for" moment. :scared:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:44 PM
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23. I don't think they could ever risk running Palin this year. I think they
might actually splinter into two or three factions.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:47 PM
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25. TaliPalin was nominated to be the VP. Unless she's elected, she doesn't automatically get pres.
The RNC would have to choose a new presidential nominee. I guess they could choose a new VP as well. There would be a LOT of in-fighting. The Republicans would be in disarray. They might even ditch Palin as VP which would infuriate her fundy base.

My guess is that they won't do it. They'll keep McCain no matter what and try to steal the election again.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:38 PM
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15. No Constitutional guidance
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 01:38 PM by Contrary1
"First of all, the Constitution is silent on this issue -- for that matter, it's silent on anything to do with political parties at all. So there's no Constitutional guidance at all.

Second, this HAS happened, or pretty close, in 1968, when Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated. He was killed in June after winning the California (and numerous other) primaries; the convention was in August. RFK would presumably have been the nominee had he not been killed.

I'm not too sure what his delegates at the convention did, but the Democrats picked Hubert Humphrey as the candidate. It was a turbulent convention, for all sorts of reasons, but RFK's death was part of the reason.

To answer the question, I assume it's entirely up to the party who has lost a candidate to decide what to do. It would seem polite to have the candidate who came in second in the primaries (McCain or Bradley) take over, but more likely there would be a special convention to choose a new candidate.

To be further polite, I would hope that the elections got postponed from November, to allow a fair race. The Constitution doesn't mandate November elections, so I guess that would be determined by Congress. But the surviving (opposing) candidate would prefer a quick election that he was pretty assured of winning, so who knows what Congress would do.

The other situation where this almost happened was with Pres. William Henry Harrison in 1841. He got ill immediately upon taking office (some say it was at his inauguration itself) and died 3 months later. His V.P., John Tyler, took over. Harrison was the first president to die in office.

Perhaps the best story in this morbid catalogue is that of Tancredo Neves, president-elect of Brazil in 1985. He got ill and died after getting elected and before taking office, His dying words were reportedly "I did not deserve this."

http://www.ontheissues.org/AskMe/succession.htm


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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:38 PM
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16. Chaos and disintegration
Think back what happened to Humphrey when Eagleton was forced to drop out in '72. He was forced out for mental health reason. Parallel? We shall see.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 02:44 PM
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27. I'd love to see them splinter up!
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 02:52 PM
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29. McGovern you mean.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:02 PM
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31. I'm not sure if he/she is referring to 68 or 72. Both conventions were
in chaos. Not sure which was one was more chaotic. My pick would be 68.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:41 PM
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17. As per their party rules...
they'd have to have another convention with the exact same delegates and nominate someone new.

Basically, you'd have every prominent GOPer in America kissing the asses of the former McCain delegates to win their votes over. It'd be anarchy and it'd likely destroy the GOP at all levels (local, state and national) for the 2008 election unless a brokered solution was arranged immediately. I'd guess that it has been though...at least in the back-rooms.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:42 PM
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18. They would likely turn fascist.
That would be a left turn for them.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:43 PM
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21. romney.
Edited on Wed Sep-10-08 01:43 PM by jakem
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:43 PM
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22. They'd vote for the idiot.
Remember, they've done it before. Repeatedly.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:45 PM
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24. Which one?
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:53 PM
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26. The republican
Do you really think it matters to them which one?

:rofl:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 02:48 PM
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28. Game over. The party would be is such disarray they would never
be able to recover in less than 2 months. I imagine a lot of repubs would stay home on election day.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:00 PM
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30. I'd love to see that happen!!1!!
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:02 PM
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32. amendment to allow Ahnuld!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:33 PM
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34. That's one thing we don't have to worry about!
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