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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:27 AM
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PALIN CALLS KISSINGER NAIVE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ilan-goldenberg/palin-calls-kissinger-nai_b_129445.html?view=print
In her interview with Katie Couric Sarah Palin essentially called Henry Kissinger naive and also proved that she just hasn't done her homework.

Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?

Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with. You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack Obama is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without preconditions being met. That's beyond naïve. And it's beyond bad judgment.

Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger ...

Palin: It's dangerous.

Couric: ... is naïve for supporting that?

Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions perhaps could be implemented if things weren't gonna go right. That's part of diplomacy.

Actually. That's exactly Henry Kissinger's position. And Couric even went ahead and confirmed it with Kissinger after the interview. Here is what Kissinger said just last week at a forum of five secretaries of state.

"I'm in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one -- (unintelligible) -- of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East -- of a stable Middle East and our notion of nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it."

It's not only Kissinger's position. It is James Baker and Colin Powell's position as well. Here is what Powell said at the event.

Powell: "we should start to talk to them. Don't wait for a letter coming from them. Start discussion. We've been talking to them up through 2003." Asked whether we should "take the initiative?" Powell responded, "Yeah. We shouldn't we? What are we afraid of? We did."

But who cares what Kissinger, Powell and Baker think. Sarah Palin is running the country now...


:banghead:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:28 AM
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1. How clueless is this woman?
:dunce:

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:31 AM
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3. I'll give her credit
for having an IQ higher than a daisy but not as high as a dandelion.
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:40 AM
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4. you'ver just offended daisies erverywhere.
Daisies are much brighter. I never heard a daisy call Henry Kissinger "naive".
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:07 AM
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8. Shall we settle for poison ivy ?
:shrug:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:40 AM
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24. hard to say, even poison ivy serves a purpose.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 10:41 AM by Javaman
:rofl:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:12 AM
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12. And those of us that are dandelions thank you for not lumping her in with us.
See my graphic below. :)
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:27 AM
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14. Would I ?
I like your graphic. :hi:
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:55 AM
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23. I'm not even sure at this point that she could find the debate - MSNBC pundit yesterday
when asked how she would do in a debate.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:30 AM
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2. If we weren't already living in bizarro world, calling Kissinger "naive" would be enough to disredit
'Caribou Barbie.'
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:41 AM
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5. Wow. The clueless idiot calling the war criminal 'naive' - hmmm
I almost think she has little clue of who Kissinger is. One of their campaign handlers even spelled his name "Kissenger"
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Doodler71 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:04 AM
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6. Oh... no she didn't... this keeps getting more and more
crazy by the moment.

The Palin choice is reminding me of when you start dating someone and they are perfect and charming and hot. Then the "crazy" starts to leak out by date 3 or 4. Next thing you know they are hiding in the car across the street and calling your phone 400 times a day.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:06 AM
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7. What's the big deal about pre-conditions?
I don't know jack about foreign affairs, but what's the harm in having a no-strings-attached meeting that just might result in the resolution of tensions? After a couple such meetings we can start talking about conditions.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:12 AM
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11. People Like Queen Sarah believes that you should...
shoot first and let Gawd sort out the little shit!
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:12 AM
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27. It's a way of saying "we don't do diplomacy".
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 11:15 AM by Marr
Basically, the Bush team's idea of working with other countries is, "do what we tell you to do and shut-up". Like all of the Bush Administration's policies, it speaks of supreme arrogance, and it doesn't work.

There's a whole process for working with other countries that's been around for thousands of years. It's called diplomacy or statecraft and it's all about give and take. These jackasses are so convinced of their divine power, they thought they didn't need diplomacy.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:08 AM
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9. The new gaffs of her talking about the Supreme Court and Cheney
are suppose to come out today too. I heard they are bad also.

I don't know anymore than the reviews were in that they were bad also.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:29 AM
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16. Oh goody!
:popcorn:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:09 AM
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10. oh my goddess
She is truly as stupid as can be.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:24 AM
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13. "who would seek to destroy America and that"
She has more confusing speaking patterns than Yoda. If the person writing the transcript of your interview has to use an <unintelligible>, you need some work on your vocabulary and speaking skills.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:20 AM
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22. Self-delete.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 09:21 AM by mwb970
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:36 AM
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28. Compare Palin to Yoda, you did.
Sure to make Yoda angry, you are.

He'll jack your shit up if you keep doing that, he will.



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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:29 AM
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15. It takes a lot of bravado to call Kissinger naive.
Either that, or a lot of stupidity. It's not difficult to guess which of those traits Sarah Palin embodies.

Kissinger is many things; naive is not one of them.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:47 AM
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17. If this person Had Any Integrity, she would bow out because she knows that she is way over her head
and wouldn't be fit to be President.

Integrity? Ha!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:48 AM
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18. The more I see of Palin, the more I'm convinced she is 100% psycho. nt
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 08:50 AM
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19. And Only 2% Smart
The Professor
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:11 AM
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20. Oh gods, just when you think that Sarah Palin
can't open her mouth wider for more foot to be inserted, she goes and does it. Does she even have a clue who Kissinger is? This woman is an embarrassment.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 09:18 AM
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21. Kissinger is "naive"! Good God. What idiocy will Barbie spew next?
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 09:18 AM by mwb970
This woman is a walking disaster.

BTW, the excellent Alaska politics blog Mudflats has a clip of the mortifying second half of the Couric interview. Above it is this note:

Just for fun, see if you can watch this without putting your palms on your face. Other than that, I am rendered speechless.

I literally laughed out loud upon reading this, given that I had just watched the same clip on YouTube and had my palms on my face for almost the entire thing. It is unimaginable that this airheaded little piece of nothing is actually in contention for VP! How embarrassing for our country.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:10 AM
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26. I couldn't watch past the first minute. n/t
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:03 AM
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25. GOD, these people are so motherfucking STUPID.
There's this whole generation of Republicans who assume the GW Bush way of doing things is the standardly accepted way of doing things. It isn't.

And how could she have possibly missed this issue? It was a big one early in Bush's first term, when they announced this "policy". It's essentially a statement that we do not conduct diplomacy, and it raised a lot of eyebrows. Not Palin's, apparently.

Another fucking nitwit.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:13 PM
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29. That's funny,
Kissinger probably has forgotten more about Foreign Policy and Diplomacy than Palin now knows or will ever know. Kissinger HAS the real life experience to have credibility, she, not so much.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:15 PM
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30. Kissinger is a lot of things...most of them not good
but naive isn't one of them.
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:19 AM
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37. The good things are? n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 07:09 AM
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38. Can't think of a thing
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:15 PM
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31. Wow... she never ceases to outdo her own stupidity.
How did Alaska put up with this woman for 2 years?

Okay... 18 months?
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:17 PM
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32. Boy howdy. It's plain to see she can see Russia from her house.



How else could she be such an expert on international affairs?













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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:42 PM
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33. Why are you banging your head? This is great stuff...
:popcorn: want some?

watching her constantly embarrass herself is like compensation for the kid you knew in school who got through just by sucking up to the teachers...
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 06:49 PM
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34. Okay that's the most bizarre statement in the history of statements.
Saying Kissenger is too naive is like saying:

Hitler was too shy
Bush is too intellectual
Lenin just wanted to make a quick buck on the markets

and

Sarah Palin is a gay atheist abortion doctor who fights too hard for social justice.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 07:21 PM
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35. She thinks that means he was born in Tel Aviv. n/t
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 02:43 AM
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36. Well to be fair...
her people told her she was meeting with Henry Kissenger.

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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:33 AM
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39. Palin is regurgitating the same
talking points about sitting down with Ahmadinejad with no preconditions being naive. It's the exact same thing McCain said last night.
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