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Tue Sep-30-08 03:59 PM
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Much of American Culture Sucks. Can We At Least Be Honest About That? |
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Sprawl Energy overconsumption frenzied consumerism Diet Factory farming Emphasis on being entertained addiction to television anti-intellectual tradition religious fanaticism lack of connection to the past our education syste
And these are all products of the American ethos of exceptionalism.
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:01 PM
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3. agreed. america has never been smacked around and told "no" |
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:05 PM
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:07 PM
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6. Wasn't that way much until........television....Go ahead, flame, but before TV |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 04:08 PM by monmouth
one conversed and IT became an art, people played cards, kids learned to play cards (improving math skills among other things), articles in magazines, wonderful books and newspapers, listened to wonderful radio and used our imaginations. Sorry, couldn't resist. Oh, and kids played outside with no supervision, didn't have to find a sponsor for the ball game on the corner lot, and their parents didn't litigate every time little Johnny or Sue got hurt...
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:11 PM
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9. I certainly won't argue that- let alone flame you for saying it |
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My parents wouldn't have a tv until I was 11 and my youngest sibling was 8. And it was strictly doled out after that. I brought up my son without tv until he was in his teens. and my kid absolutely played outside without adult supervision- from the time he was 6.
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:16 PM
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11. If you enjoyed radio like I did try www.live365.com. It's great...n/t |
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:07 PM
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west coast wine (sorry east coast - that's not a wine grape) brewing renaissance jazz blues rock (& roll) hip hop hollywood (sometimes)
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:18 PM
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George Gershwin Lake Tahoe Santa Barbara San Juan Island, WA The Hollywood Bowl Musso & Frank Grille, Sunset Blvd., Hollywood
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:20 PM
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13. there are lots of good things that have arisen from the culture but they aren't dominant |
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:26 PM
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14. Dominance of Mediocrity |
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You're right, the yahoos are in control right now. Only way to fight back is to find politicians like Big Bill who can talk to them without scaring them. I LOVE Barack, but he scares White Trash big time. So does Hillary. So do most liberal politicians. So do cities, ideas, Europe, classical music, urban culture and People Who Don't Look Like Me.
They may go back under the rock they came from in 1980, after November 5. We can only hope.
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:29 PM
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15. this didn't just happen. |
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it's been going on for a long time. And it's not really about "white trash" either. It's about American exceptionalism and entitlement- at least to a large degree.
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:32 PM
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16. "America is the New Jerusalem" |
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I'm no Biblical scholar, but wasn't Reagan the first president who started referring to America as "the City on the Hill" from the New Testament? Leads right to American exceptionalism, which is the foundation of Christian Dominionism and christofascism.
We're on the same page, Cali.
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:10 PM
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8. ok, so America is the birthplace of white trash culture |
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Edited on Tue Sep-30-08 04:11 PM by provis99
At least we contributed something to the world!:sarcasm:
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:13 PM
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10. If you're not a winner, you're a loser |
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a sense of entitlement to instant gratification
and the belief that might makes right
(of course there are many Americans who do not feel this way)
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:33 PM
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17. I love it when people complain about TV... |
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on internet message boards.
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:43 PM
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Yeah, that is rich!
The funny thing about TV is there are these little buttons that give you choice! Amazing creatures, these buttons. In my area, I skip numbers 2 - 13, and head right for 28 and above, where they keep PBS and CSPAN.
Not all television is dumb. Not by a long shot. In the past week alone I watched a fascinating update on String Theory, a biography of Pavarotti, a US presidential debate, and one highly-rated film noir from the '40's. I also enjoy watching Bill Moyers on Friday nights.
What a trashy whore I am!
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Tue Sep-30-08 04:47 PM
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19. TV is just another medium. |
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People who refuse to watch TV remind me of people who refuse to read books.
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Tue Sep-30-08 05:17 PM
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20. I think some of the examples you list have a common cause: |
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Sprawl, energy consumption, consumerism, diet, and factory farming are all producer-driven, most assuredly not consumer, or market, driven. That has distorted our culture, our economy, and our political system.
As for Culture with a capital "c," we have little to be ashamed about in terms of our literature, music, or art. IMHO.
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