Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I've sat through thousands of Senate floor speeches. Sen. Obama's just now was positively inspiring.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:16 PM
Original message
I've sat through thousands of Senate floor speeches. Sen. Obama's just now was positively inspiring.
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 04:55 PM by bigtree
I sure that it suddenly dawned on the majority of his peers listening in the hall and elsewhere that they were, in fact, proudly, listening to the next president of the United States.


some early media generated froth of Sen. Obama's remarks:


"Understandably, people are frustrated and they're angry that Wall Street's mistakes have put their tax-dollars at risk,'' Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois said on the Senate floor late this afternoon, as the Senate prepared to vote tonight on a $700-billion federal bailout for banks aimed at averting economic crisis. "And they should be, I'm angry and frustrated to0...

"It affects the financial well-being of every single American,'' the Democratic nominee for president said. "There will be time to punish those who set the fire... Right now, we want to put out that fire.''

"When the House of Representatives failed to act on Monday, we saw the largest single day decline of the stock market in two decades,'' he said. "While that decline was devastating, the credit crunch that caused will be even worse if we do not act... This is not just a Wall Street crisis. It's an American crisis. And it's the American economy that needs this rescue...

"Even with all these taxpayer protections, this plan is not perfect.''

"But it's clear that, from my perspective, this is what we need to do right now, to prevent the possibility of a crisis turning into a catastrophe...

"Even if we could get this place, we could still have enormous problems and probably will have enormous problems in the economy in the coming months,'' Obama said. "We are not going to dig ourselves out of that hole immediately. This is not the end. This is the beginning.''

"I do not think this is going to be easy,'' Obama said. "Now more than ever, we are all in this together. That's part of what this crisis has taught us. At the end of the day, there is no separation between Wall Street and Main Street.... We can steer ourselves out of this crisis. We also have.''

Obama closed with Franklin Delano Roosevelt, speaking of that which is more important than currency - "the confidence of the people themselves... Let us united in banishing fear. Together we cannot fail. We cannot fail. Not tomorrow... Not next year.''


http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/barack_obama_put_out_that_fire.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:17 PM
Response to Original message
1. How long since you've been proud of a President?
A long, long, long time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:26 PM
Original message
as my brother said to me yesterday: Finally, someone who sounds like a president.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
revolve Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #1
32. 8 Years nt/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:18 PM
Response to Original message
2. This bill stinks. How could it have made you proud?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. I'll let Sen. Obama's statements speak to that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. How do his statements make the bill stink any less?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. How did he explain the need for the bill and why he thought it needed to be done?
Edited on Wed Oct-01-08 04:25 PM by dmordue
and what points do you disagree with?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. not many changes from what he's saying on the stump
He has a comprehensive view of what needs to be done and he isn't pretending that this legislation will solve all of those problems. He's continuing to push for protections and help for homeowners in the legislation and without. And he called again for economic stimulus to bolster the effort.

I really need a transcript to argue it in more detail.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #11
20. some early froth
"Understandably, people are frustrated and they're angry that Wall Street's mistakes have put their tax-dollars at risk,'' Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois said on the Senate floor late this afternoon, as the Senate prepared to vote tonight on a $700-billion federal bailout for banks aimed at averting economic crisis. "And they should be, I'm angry and frustrated to0...

"It affects the financial well-being of every single American,'' the Democratic nominee for president said. "There will be time to punish those who set the fire... Right now, we want to put out that fire.''

"When the House of Representatives failed to act on Monday, we saw the largest single day decline of the stock market in two decades,'' he said. "While that decline was devastating, the credit crunch that caused will be even worse if we do not act... This is not just a Wall Street crisis. It's an American crisis. And it's the American economy that needs this rescue...

"Even with all these taxpayer protections, this plan is not perfect.''

"But it's clear that, from my perspective, this is what we need to do right now, to prevent the possibility of a crisis turning into a catastrophe...

"Even if we could get this place, we could still have enormous problems and probably will have enormous problems in the economy in the coming months,'' Obama said. "We are not going to dig ourselves out of that hole immediately. This is not the end. This is the beginning.''

"I do not think this is going to be easy,'' Obama said. "Now more than ever, we are all in this together. That's part of what this crisis has taught us. At the end of the day, there is no separation between Wall Street and Main Street.... We can steer ourselves out of this crisis. We also have.''

Obama closed with Franklin Delano Roosevelt, speaking of that which is more important than currency - "the confidence of the people themselves... Let us united in banishing fear. Together we cannot fail. We cannot fail. Not tomorrow... Not next year.''


http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/barack_obama_put_out_that_fire.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. well, they just don't
But, he makes a persuasive argument for his position in support of the legislation.

I won't argue his position further without a transcript.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sukie Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. Being proud of his statement and statesmanship
are not related to the bill "stinking".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemoRabbit Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
15. Grrr.... the first time in days I'm away from a live video feed somewhere!
I was just eating at a restaurant!

Any video up anywhere yet?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
notaboutus Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
26. BECAUSE
We all know Obama has put his heart into this campaign. From day one he has said America as we now know it is in trouble, and while I don't like the bill I respect the messenger.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
4. What got me
is that he's a natural teacher. He can't help but instruct as he speaks, clarifying, giving examples, putting it all within a context that is easily understandable. He's a natural.

He's the first President I've seen since JFK who speaks - extemporaneously - in paragraphs. He's not yet as good and polished as JFK, but he'll get there.

And it is such a fucking comfort to listen to someone trustworthy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. I guess if he didn't inspire trust in him, I wouldn't be able to accept his word
He was very persuasive (and instructive, as you say) about his position.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
5. I missed it
I guess it is on CSPAN?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:20 PM
Response to Original message
6. Hurray for wooden arrows!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
8. He spoke well- but I still oppose the bail out as it is.
Oh well-Cant win 'em all, in fact, you cant win most of 'em unless you are rich.

Hopefully I'll get rich one day.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. I thought I heard him say he's still pushing (advocating) for changes he wants in the final bill
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #10
18. I heard that too. I thought he meant sometime in the vague future.
Not to be negative, but that is what I thoguht he meant.

I assumed he meant after he is president (and I believe he will be Prez)

I am ready to be corrected on that, b/c I could have heard it wrong.

I've been hearing variations of this for 8 years, about how we need to give Bush what he wants so we can fix it later. I hope Obama can make it stick.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. even if said, his real influence is surely limited and restricted by other forces
. . . in the Senate and the House as well. But, I don't doubt that he's pushing hard for the changes to make his support less controversial and worth it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #23
30. We also find much agreement there. n/t
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. Is that the same vague future where making the telecoms accountable
lives? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. It's a much clearer future with a President Obama in the picture
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. All cynicism aside- I do join you in believing that.
Not that I have much choice (oopps- cynicism again-harder to abandon than I thouht after watching DEMS cave to the GOP for 8 years)

But seriously- I'm going to go with that view on faith right now too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. Yes- I heard we may investigate Bush for impeachable offenses in 2011 as well.
;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
14. It was a brilliant speech, as usual.
Chris Matthews kept asking "Who is the leader of this country right now?" afterwards, trying to get those senators to state the obvious: Obama. They wouldn't of course, but it's true. He has stepped into the vacuum and taken charge.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. ah, that's the sense I had watching
There was no senator who stood above him in that body today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
19. There's a link up at cspan.org
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. good show
thanks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:38 PM
Response to Original message
21. It was a fantastic speech
I think this bailout deal is a big shit sandwich, it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" proposition for him at this point, so I wo't fault him for taking one side or the other. But his speaking abilities are so far above the monosyllabic babbling of the drunk monkey we've had to endure for the last 8 years....it's refreshing to say the least.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. he was truly in the moment
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-08 06:03 PM
Response to Original message
31. I won't comment on Obama's speech as I didn't see it.
But I did see a few of the other senators speak today, and the "I'm angry too" theme seemed to be the order of the day.

I honestly don't know what the best option is, but apparently it's out of our hands at this point. This bailout is going forward.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 01:32 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC