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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:00 PM Original message |
The Altamont Pass DMZ in California |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. And then there's southern California |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. I lived in Tracy for two years |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. Tracy in more recent years, even more so. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Tracy is changing - back in the 70's it used to host the California NAZI Party |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. That has been the way the San Joaquin Valley has been, pretty right wing |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. This country sometimes feels like it's multiple countries instead of one. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Be in the one that can go on after the shit has been fanned |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. I've driven it a few times, back in the 90s. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. My boyfriend and I went to school out in the valley in the 70s |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Sounds scary |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. We went to Turlock following the Drama teachers that were driven out |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. I teach in a rural area. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I'll check out the link. I've lived on a ranch and also in the mountains. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I love it. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. I think part of the reason why is that California is not a swing state... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Good points! nt |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Slowly but surely |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's also the divide between mostly 49ers fans and mostly Raiders fans. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Or stab people. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Or uninate on people while stabbing them |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I get to make these jokes because my Mom is a Raider fan. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I get to make these jokes because I don't give a rat's ass about the NFL |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. San Leandro, that's where The North Face is HQed |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. I've spent most of my life here in this valley |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. God I hope so.... |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. I've seen that in Oklahoma also... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. In Turlock, mid-seventies, there was pretty much only one restaurant |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I can tell you some Turlock stories clear into the 90's |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I lived across the street from the school for a while at the Far East Apts. |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
13. I love that stretch of road. The windfarm is very dramatic.. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I do like the wind farms - there's more in between Concord and Stockton |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. They used to be unique to CA... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Did they go up under Jerry Brown? Because I think I remember |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Probably. Just like they made fun of Jimmy Carter |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. 2002 |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Interesting map.. What are the 2 counties on the east side that are blue? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Alpine And Mono |
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XOKCowboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Love Mono Lake |
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. I'd like to think that El Dorado Co is blue... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Why are the coasts so blue? Sea air? |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Oh C'Mon... You Know The Answer To That !!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. "Don't ever get busted in Merced County! We've been busted four times |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. I'd suspect that coastal dwellers are largely people who live there because they want to live there |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. That is interesting. I didn't know that. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. The Great Lakes are big enough to have beaches and surf. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I co-sponsored a seminar at Lake Geneva one year |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. It's not just that - we have a completely different culture on the West Coast |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. We're also less connected to our neighbors than a lot of places. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Or a party that gets neighbors to call the cops on you |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. LOL! There is a group of teens that hang out directly across the street |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. And rust. Lots of rust in Ocean Beach area |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. We should build a museum to rust! |
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musiclawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
36. The GOP thinks they own the central valley still....... but they don't |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
41. I've lived in red states and in red counties, and I object to the attitude about "enemy territory" |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Sigh - we could go at this all day |
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stuckinlodi (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
42. But the Stockton Record Endorsed Obama |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You sure did get rid of Pombo! I was monitoring that election. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-04-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
50. Of course... it's Altamont. |
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