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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:00 PM
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ABC Is Lying About NSA
On Thursday, ABC News reported a big new break in the story of illegal and unconstitutional spying that our government has engaged in for years now, except that there was nothing new in the story and the important parts were left out.

The ABC News announcer began the video report thus:

"This is the first time any of the actual intercept operators, the people who listen in and record phone calls on behalf of U.S. intelligence agencies, the first time any of them has come forward."

But this would have been revealed as blatant nonsense by simply googling the names of the two operators, Adrienne Kinne and David Murfee Faulk. I reported Kinne's story on July 1, 2007, on a website that is read by hundreds of thousands of people every month, including quite a few Congressional staffers. The very popular radio show, Democracy Now!, reported on one aspect of Kinne's story on May 13, 2008.

I first reported Faulk's story on May 19, 2008. He contacted me because he had read the story I'd written about Kinne. That point is of interest because the report posted online by ABC News on October 9, 2008, reads:

"The accounts of the two former intercept operators, who have never met and did not know of the other's allegations, provide the first inside look at the day to day operations of the huge and controversial US terrorist surveillance program."

This is absolute nonsense, since Faulk learned of Kinne's story by reading it on my website in May.

Not only has ABC News announced as an "Exclusive!" a story that is over a year old, but dozens of major corporate media outlets have now parroted ABC News on this, cited ABC News as their source, and failed to so much as google the names of the people involved or to admit what they found when they did so.

Now, ABC News credits as its source the author James Bamford, whose new book I have not yet seen. Bamford tells me he left the phone-sex angle out of it. He probably included in it some of the more important information that ABC News excluded in favor of phone-sex titillation. But Bamford must also have contributed to the pretense that there was something new here that had not been reported before.

When I reported on Kinne over a year ago, I reported that Senator Patrick Leahy was ignoring her requests. Now, in response to ABC News picking up the story, Leahy is pretending to be interested in the matter.

Kinne, like Leahy, lives in Vermont. She had, even before I spoke with her, traveled all over Vermont giving speeches, though not focused on the revelations I reported. She was taking part in a tour promoting the impeachment of the president. Kinne is an active member of Iraq Veterans Against the War. I learned of her story when I heard her speak at a public event as part of the U.S. Social Forum in Atlanta, Ga., after which I interviewed her. None of that background would ever be suitable information for the Disney Corporation (ABC News), but I think it played a big role in Kinne's decision to become a whistleblower, in her awareness that she had something to blow a whistle on, in her confidence to speak out. And her speaking out was a major factor in Faulk's decision to speak out. When Kinne spoke to me, she was not yet at the point where she would have been willing to go on ABC News if asked. But they didn't ask, and neither did any other corporate media outlet, and when ABC finally reported this story, it buried and distorted any account of how these two people had found the courage to speak up, thus reducing the benefit of the story for encouraging other whistleblowers.

But even a year and a half ago, Kinne was eager to speak to Congress, and Congress wanted nothing to do with her. Leahy and gang only became interested in putting on a show of being interested when ABC News reported the story. I'm glad they did. And I'm glad that Bamford persuaded them to. But they left most of the story out. It's a story of war lies and war crimes. It's not primarily a story about privacy, much less sex. Here are my original reports:

New NSA Whistleblower Speaks
July 1, 2007
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24183
By David Swanson

A former member of U.S. military intelligence has decided to reveal what she knows about warrantless spying on Americans and about the fixing of intelligence in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq.

Adrienne Kinne describes an incident just prior to the invasion of Iraq in which a fax came into her office at Fort Gordon in Georgia that purported to provide information on the location of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. The fax came from the Iraqi National Congress, a group opposed to Saddam Hussein and favoring an invasion. The fax contained types of information that required that it be translated and transmitted to President Bush within 15 minutes. But Kinne had been eavesdropping on two nongovernmental aid workers driving in Iraq who were panicked and trying to find safety before the bombs dropped. She focused on trying to protect them, and was reprimanded for the delay in translating the fax. She then challenged her officer in charge, Warrant Officer John Berry, on the credibility of the fax, and he told her that it was not her place or his to challenge such things. None of the other 20 or so people in the unit questioned anything, Kinne said.

Kinne dates this incident to the period just before the official invasion of Iraq or possibly just after. She says that because the US engaged in so much bombing prior to the official invasion, she cannot recall for sure.

Prior to September 11, 2001, Kinne says, it was unacceptable to listen in on or collect information on Americans. The practice was barred by United States Signals Intelligence Directive (USSID) 18. Kinne recalls an incident in 1997 in which an American's name was mentioned, and she and her colleagues deleted every related record because they took very seriously the ban on collecting information on Americans. Kinne was serving from 1994-1998 on active duty as an Arabic linguist for military intelligence at Fort Gordon in Georgia, sending reports to and collaborating with the NSA. She served at the same station after 9-11 when she was activated as a reservist.

Kinne says that post-9-11 she and others routinely collected information on people even after identifying them as aid workers for non-governmental organizations. A common rationale was that the phones of such organizations could conceivably be seized by terrorists. She recalled one case in which she was listening to an American talk to his British colleague in an international aid organization. The Brit expressed concern about the American military eavesdropping, and the American replied that they couldn't possibly be doing that because of USSID 18. Kinne recalls that her colleagues got quite excited and behaved as if the American had divulged secrets by mentioning that directive. They continued eavesdropping on the man although they were unclear at that point whether they were permitted to spy on Americans.

Shortly after this incident, however, in mid-2002, they were given a waiver to spy on Americans. This waiver was communicated to Kinne and her colleagues orally, and she assumed that it had come from the President or someone very high up. The waiver, she says, also permitted spying on Canadian, French, German, Australian, and British citizens without probable cause.

Many of the people, including Americans, whom Kinne spied on were journalists. These included journalists staying at a hotel in Baghdad that later showed up on a list of targets. Again, Kinne says, she expressed concerns to her officer in charge, letting him know that the military should be informed or the journalists should be warned to move to another location. Kinne says Berry brushed her off. He was, she says, "completely behind the invasion of Iraq. He told us repeatedly that we needed to bomb those barbarians back to kingdom come."

Berry was promoted to Chief Warrant Officer. Kinne left, went back to school, and took a job at the Veterans Administration helping some of the victims of the fixing of intelligence that she had witnessed. And early this year she joined a tour of Vermont with activists Cindy Sheehan, John Nichols, Dan DeWalt, and veterans of the war, a tour promoting the passage of impeachment resolutions in Vermont towns, a tour that helped effect the passage of those resolutions in over 40 towns up and down the state. Kinne found the experience "life-changing", and she's now decided to tell everything she knows, and to encourage others still in the government to speak out and release documentation.

"I wish that I had said something back then, but I don't think people would have listened," Kinne said.

Kinne, who now works for the VA at White River Junction, Vermont, said that she has written to Senator Patrick Leahy, who has not replied to her. Kinne has become active in Iraq Veterans Against the War. She said that the news of the current escalation of the war also helped move her to act. "That's the only reason why I am choosing to break whatever rules I may have just broken by telling you about it," Kinne said. "Because I think that this all needs to stop, and it needs to stop now. And the only way it's going to stop is if people start speaking out."

***

New NSA Whistleblower Tells of Faulty WMD Evidence
May 19, 2008
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/33525
By David Swanson

David Murfee Faulk was a translator in the Navy, working in Arabic and Iraqi dialect. In April 2004 he began working for the National Security Agency (NSA) at Fort Gordon outside Augusta, Georgia. (He now writes, under the name Murfee Faulk, for the Metro Spirit newspaper in Augusta, but he has never written about what he did for the NSA.)

Faulk says that in May 2004 he found an extremely large text file containing grid coordinates for alleged chemical weapons sites in Iraq. Faulk showed it to his supervisor, who was surprised. But he was not surprised that the file existed, only that it had not been deleted. The supervisor said he had believed all such files had been deleted, and that there had been a great many of them. In fact, according to this supervisor, U.S. Special Forces had gone to the locations and found nothing.

That's what usually happens, Faulk's supervisor told him, when you get something from the Israelis. "Four out of five times it's complete and total bullshit."

I asked veteran Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) analyst Ray McGovern what he made of this, and he said that there is "no such thing as a 'friendly' intelligence service. Reporting from liaison services always needs to be taken with utmost reserve. That goes in spades for what comes from the Israelis, the more so since they have unique, yes unique, access to the White House and Pentagon, and are thus able to circumvent the intelligence bureaucracy set up to vet and evaluate raw intelligence and prevent unverified and/or tendentious 'intelligence' from reaching senior officials, lest they be misled."

With regard to other pieces of Israeli "intelligence" on Iraq's mythical weapons of "mass destruction," McGovern said: "Yes, most of the Israeli 'intelligence' on things like chemical weapons in Iraq was of little or no value. Worse still, data like coordinates for suspected chemical weapons-related sites could not be dispassionately evaluated by objective intelligence analysts because the key function of imagery analysis was ceded by the CIA to the Pentagon in 1996. What sergeant was going to tell Rumsfeld that Israeli sources and the 'intelligence' from the Israelis or the likes of Chalabi were certainly not worth what Rumsfeld was paying for. At the same time, if truth was not the objective, but rather reports alleging this or that WMD-related sites, well, the Israelis were performing a useful service for the likes of Doug Feith, who would bundle them up and give them to the 'Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal' for passing to the president. Woof! Proof!"

McGovern seemed to find it perfectly possible that "evidence" of the sort that Faulk stumbled upon was voluminous: "The neuralgic search for WMD pointed up the problem. US chief WMD-searcher, David Kay, has told lurid stories of being awakened in Iraq at all hours by people working in the office of the Vice President: 'Hey we got new coordinates; check them out!'"

McGovern recalled one instance of someone speaking openly about the quality of Israeli "intelligence." When John Negroponte was Director of National Intelligence, National Public Radio’s Robert Siegel asked him to explain why the Israelis have suggested a much shorter timeline for Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. "I think that sometimes what the Israelis will do give you the worst-case assessment," Negroponte said.

Faulk is not the first former NSA employee from Fort Gordon to speak about things he saw there. In fact, Faulk contacted me after reading an article I wrote last July ( http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24183 ) when Adrienne Kinne decided that she would stay silent no longer. (She also told her story on "Democracy Now" this month: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/13/fmr_military_intelligence_officer ). Kinne described the priority that was given to less than credible WMD claims that came in from Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress. She also described how the NSA's policies with regard to spying on Americans changed completely on September 11, 2001. Prior to that date, she said, it was unacceptable to listen in on or collect information on Americans. The practice was barred by United States Signals Intelligence Directive (USSID) 18. Kinne recalled an incident in 1997 in which an American's name was mentioned, and she and her colleagues deleted every related record because they took very seriously the ban on collecting information on Americans. After September 2001, she said, it was acceptable to spy on Americans even after identifying them as aid workers for non-governmental organizations. Faulk confirmed that this was the policy when he worked there as well.

It's a shame that we have to learn what our government is up to, after the fact, from former employees daring to speak out, but if more of them would do so the risk to them would be lessened, our knowledge increased, and our government's worst abuses reined in.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:11 PM
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1. We got your back davidswanson
:hug:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:14 PM
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3. Yeah, good work
So, now that abc is showing their ass, I have to ask: What color is it?
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:29 PM
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7. red white and blue of course
m-i-c-k-e-y
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:14 PM
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2. # 10
:kick:
That is all.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:16 PM
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4. #22
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 04:58 AM
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23. #76
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:21 PM
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5. Jim Bamford's book 'Shadow Factory' is gonna blow the doors open on this.
Strange, ABC should know better, Bamford was an investigative producer with World News Tonight. His book Shadow Factory: The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 to the Evesdropping on America comes out on October 14.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 04:35 AM
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22. Thanks, arcadian. I'll bet you have sold a bunch of copies of this for people
who hadn't heard about it 'til reading your post.

Bamford is irreplaceable. What a gift he is.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:23 PM
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6. K&R
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ancient_nomad Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:41 PM
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8. KnR....
Thank you davidswanson!

:hug: :yourock:


:kick:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:45 PM
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9. K&R!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:47 PM
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10. Kick & Rec n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:55 PM
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11. Sorry that your work didn't get more notice, but I'm glad as hell
ABC is shouting out this big story. They have the megaphone.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:57 PM
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12. Keeping it kicked!
:kick:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:36 PM
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13. KnR for more visibility.. Great work, thank you! n/t
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:07 AM
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14. I'm really not sure that they know how to use the google at ABC.
They are very misinformed, all the time.

Good story.
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victordrazen Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:01 AM
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15. Revolving door exists between tv networks, Pentagon,
intelligence agencies, and defense contractors. They are all the same deal. Thanks for posting this.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:54 AM
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16. I also noticed that ABC isn't carrying Obama's 30 minute
telecast yet...I've stopped watching ABC news long ago...
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Dems4me Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 12:38 AM
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46. I heard they wouldn't run A. Gores new ad about the oil companies either.n/t
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:57 AM
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17. kr
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:26 AM
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18. Did you confront ABC?
You probably should. I fucking hate it when outlets claim "Exclusive" when it isn't. Especially if they left shit out.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:09 AM
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19. You should know by now that mere upstart peasants are not permitted to speak ill
of the Tyrant's Mouthpieces.

Anyone who has called or written Cable Tv Infoganda or any TV infoganda, knows they are as responsive as Nazi Media to most complaints, the few exceptions being those which somehow gain "general media acceptnce as Convention Wisdom".

Since the Bushies now own and define Conventional Wisdom though repetition oftheir powerful propaganda machine, let's just say these exceptions are few and far between.

Trying to confront instituions that are integral and willing parts of tyranny with a phone call is like trying to confront the nazis with a phone call.

They just laugh at you. Then they beat you.

OK, I am exaggerating. It's not just like the Nazis.

There's no threat of beatings. That's about the only difference left in terms of how resposnive they are to the complaints of the Subject Popuace.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:52 PM
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41. Yeah, but David would be phoning as a journalist they ripped off
It would be handled differently
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:54 AM
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27. i haven't gotten
along with the mickey mouse club very well since their dishonest coverage of kucinich 2004
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:48 AM
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20. K&R n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 04:26 AM
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21. K&R
Bush is nothing but a liar!
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desktop Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:41 AM
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24. ABC has always been totally in the tank for the Republican party
I just came from their website where they have a video titled Biden insults Palin. I watched it waiting for the big insult of Palin, guess what, no insult, nor hardly a mention of her. Just more RNC propaganda ala FOXnews.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:45 AM
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25. K&R n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:54 AM
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26. Spying on US persons to protect "sources" that gave bad WMD intel?
See, http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/feb/04/iraq.israel


Israel knew Iraq had no WMD, says MP

* Associated Press
* The Guardian,
* Wednesday February 4 2004
* Article history

A prominent Israeli MP said yesterday that his country's intelligence services knew claims that Saddam Hussein was capable of swiftly launching weapons of mass destruction were wrong but withheld the information from Washington.

"It was known in Israel that the story that weapons of mass destruction could be activated in 45 minutes was an old wives' tale," Yossi Sarid, a member of the foreign affairs and defence committee which is investigating the quality of Israeli intelligence on Iraq, told the Associated Press yesterday.

"Israel didn't want to spoil President Bush's scenario, and it should have," he said.

Another member of the committee, Ehud Yatom, said Israel had told the Americans it believed the weapons existed but had not seen them.

On Sunday, the former UN weapons inspector, Scott Ritter, told Y-Net, an Israeli newswire, that the Israeli intelligence services reached the conclusion years ago that Iraq no longer had weapons of mass destruction.

"In the end, if the Israeli intelligence knew that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction, so the CIA knew it and thus British intelligence too" he said.

Another MP, Roman Bronfman, said if Mr Ritter was correct, it meant the government had misled the Israeli public in the run-up to the war when it ordered people to prepare sealed rooms and gas masks in preparation for a potential WMD attack.

However, questions over the quality of Israeli intelligence are unlikely to concern the public as greatly as in Britain and the US. Israelis overwhelmingly welcomed the overthrow of the Iraqi leader.

In November 2003, a respected Tel Aviv thinktank concluded that Israeli intelligence had joined the US and Britain in an "exaggerated assessment" of Iraqi weapons.

In 2002, the former head of the Mossad intelligence agency, Efraim Halevy, told a closed meeting of Nato that there were "clear indications" that Iraq had renewed its efforts to build WMD after the UN weapons inspections were halted in 1998. He also said Iraq had preserved elements of its ability to manufacture chemical and biological weapons.


Consider this in light of the larger context of the Bush-Cheney Administration's goals and failings, and proclivity for cover-ups: http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/news/2004/wwwh40205.htm

"War On Falsehood"



Columnist Eric Margolis observed in the conservative tabloid Ottawa Sun (2/1/04): "Iraq's nuclear weapons, death rays, vans of death, drones of death, mobile germ labs, poison gas factories, hidden weapons depots, long-range missiles, links to al-Qaida--all were bogus. The only thing real is Iraq's oil.

If Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction (WMD), as it long insisted, we must draw one of two conclusions. Either President George Bush, and secretaries Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld, lied about the global threat they claimed Iraq posed, and deceived Congress and the American people. Or, they were grossly misinformed by their intelligence experts and must be judged fools of the first order.

If Bush and his team of chest-thumping, self-proclaimed national security experts were really misinformed about Iraq's weapons and capabilities, then they started a war by mistake--and presided over the two biggest national security fiascos since Pearl Harbor: the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq.... Too few Americans seem troubled their president either lied or blundered into a horrible mess in Iraq.... This is an historic malfeasance far exceeding in gravity Nixon's Watergate scandal or Bill Clinton's prevarications about sex. The war fever and xenophobia fostered by the Bush administration continues to grip America."


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victordrazen Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 12:10 PM
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40. So that's who they spy on -
Since the "War on Terror" is a sham.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:47 AM
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28. K&R. nt
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:10 AM
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29. If they are listening in on Phone Sex They are Listening in on Democrats
and business enemies of the Bush Crime Family

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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:55 AM
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30. now we're getting somewhere
that's what a lot of this is about
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 09:58 AM
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31. Telephone and Media Corporations are so entangled with this program--they are accomplices
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:39 AM
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32. Does Justin Rood Hate Bloggers?
I think that's a fair question. When Rood worked for TPMMuckraker he complained to CBS News about the life of a blogger.

When he got hired by the Disney Corporation (ABC News) he begin tackling such tasks as burying a story of war lies and war crimes in order to blog about phone sex.

Now he's added a followup to the original story that still fails to note that I blogged the full story over a year ago, and still fails to tell most of the story.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:42 AM
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33. Every time I write to one of the networks to express my unhappiness with their operation
I get the same form letter back.

They don't give a rat's ass about what you or I have to say. The only thing that will ever get their attention is an economic boycott.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:44 AM
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34. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, davidswanson.
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msfiddlestix Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 10:45 AM
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35. Thanks so much David, for All of Your Good Work...
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 10:53 AM by msfiddlestix
that you've done over these past several years. Your unfailing dedication, commitment and integrity on these issues is beyond admirable.

May I assume the liberty to send this piece around to local comrades and message boards as well as my local M$M rag? And have you considered compiling your articles/essays into a book so that you may reach a broader audience? (vis a vis talk/news shows circuits) the better to expose the lies and deception, particularly of the M$M.

Editing to add that I would K&R if I could... thanks again.. :hi:
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:12 AM
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36. thanks and
if you don't send it around i'll sue you :-)

and no re compiling essays

but i will have an original book out

thanks, everybody

BTW:

ABC News
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212-456-7777
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:17 AM
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37. K & R
Great post - as usual.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:39 AM
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38. K&R n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 11:40 AM
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39. Lying is Easy as ABC
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:13 PM
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42. It's the War Crimes, Mickey
By David Swanson

1. WMD Lies

Adrienne Kinne describes an incident just prior to the invasion of Iraq in which a fax came into her office at Fort Gordon in Georgia that purported to provide information on the location of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. The fax came from the Iraqi National Congress, a group opposed to Saddam Hussein and favoring an invasion. The fax contained types of information that required that it be translated and transmitted to President Bush within 15 minutes. But Kinne had been eavesdropping on two nongovernmental aid workers driving in Iraq who were panicked and trying to find safety before the bombs dropped. She focused on trying to protect them, and was reprimanded for the delay in translating the fax. She then challenged her officer in charge, Warrant Officer John Berry, on the credibility of the fax, and he told her that it was not her place or his to challenge such things. None of the other 20 or so people in the unit questioned anything, Kinne said. Kinne dates this incident to the period just before the official invasion of Iraq or possibly just after. She says that because the US engaged in so much bombing prior to the official invasion, she cannot recall for sure.

2. Targeting Journalists in the Palestine Hotel

Many of the people, including Americans, whom Kinne spied on were journalists. These included journalists staying at a hotel in Baghdad that later showed up on a list of targets. Again, Kinne says, she expressed concerns to her officer in charge, letting him know that the military should be informed or the journalists should be warned to move to another location. Kinne says Berry brushed her off. He was, she says, "completely behind the invasion of Iraq. He told us repeatedly that we needed to bomb those barbarians back to kingdom come." Berry was promoted to Chief Warrant Officer.

3. More WMD Lies

David Murfee Faulk says that in May 2004 he found an extremely large text file containing grid coordinates for alleged chemical weapons sites in Iraq. Faulk showed it to his supervisor, who was surprised. But he was not surprised that the file existed, only that it had not been deleted. The supervisor said he had believed all such files had been deleted, and that there had been a great many of them. In fact, according to this supervisor, U.S. Special Forces had gone to the locations and found nothing. That's what usually happens, Faulk's supervisor told him, when you get something from the Israelis. "Four out of five times it's complete and total bullshit."

I asked veteran Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) analyst Ray McGovern what he made of this, and he said that there is "no such thing as a 'friendly' intelligence service. Reporting from liaison services always needs to be taken with utmost reserve. That goes in spades for what comes from the Israelis, the more so since they have unique, yes unique, access to the White House and Pentagon, and are thus able to circumvent the intelligence bureaucracy set up to vet and evaluate raw intelligence and prevent unverified and/or tendentious 'intelligence' from reaching senior officials, lest they be misled."

With regard to other pieces of Israeli "intelligence" on Iraq's mythical weapons of "mass destruction," McGovern said: "Yes, most of the Israeli 'intelligence' on things like chemical weapons in Iraq was of little or no value. Worse still, data like coordinates for suspected chemical weapons-related sites could not be dispassionately evaluated by objective intelligence analysts because the key function of imagery analysis was ceded by the CIA to the Pentagon in 1996. What sergeant was going to tell Rumsfeld that Israeli sources and the 'intelligence' from the Israelis or the likes of Chalabi were certainly not worth what Rumsfeld was paying for. At the same time, if truth was not the objective, but rather reports alleging this or that WMD-related sites, well, the Israelis were performing a useful service for the likes of Doug Feith, who would bundle them up and give them to the 'Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal' for passing to the president. Woof! Proof!"

McGovern seemed to find it perfectly possible that "evidence" of the sort that Faulk stumbled upon was voluminous: "The neuralgic search for WMD pointed up the problem. US chief WMD-searcher, David Kay, has told lurid stories of being awakened in Iraq at all hours by people working in the office of the Vice President: 'Hey we got new coordinates; check them out!'"

McGovern recalled one instance of someone speaking openly about the quality of Israeli "intelligence." When John Negroponte was Director of National Intelligence, National Public Radio’s Robert Siegel asked him to explain why the Israelis have suggested a much shorter timeline for Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. "I think that sometimes what the Israelis will do give you the worst-case assessment," Negroponte said.

4. So, Who's Mickey?

Mickey is the Disney Corporation, owner of ABC News.
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47. When the Corporate Media Apologizes
Of the hundreds of corporate and independent media outlets that falsely claimed this week that ABC News had broken a story about NSA spying that I broke at AfterDowningStreet over a year ago, only the guys at McClatchy (formerly Knight Ridder, the same people who have done better reporting on Iraq than any other corporate journalists) have had the decency to put out a correction, and only the Sacramento Bee has posted (though probably not printed) it:

"A McClatchy Newspapers story on Page A13 Friday about two former U.S. military linguists who alleged that the National Security Agency eavesdropped on the private telephone calls of American military officers, journalists and aid workers wrongly credited ABC News and "Democracy Now!" as the first to interview Adrienne Kinne and David Murfee Faulk. Blogger David Swanson wrote about Kinne on July 1, 2007, and about Faulk on May 20, 2008."


Why did they mention "Democracy Now!"? Because "Democracy Now!" phoned around to media outlets that were reporting the big ABC scoop and claimed that they had broken the story. This is what disturbs me the most. I like Democracy Now! I've been a guest on Democracy Now! But I broke this story almost a year before them, and they've never covered most of the major news in it. They've only covered the bit about the targeting of journalists in the Palestine Hotel, because that was a story they had been interested in and covering for years. And, of course, I've been a contributor to wonderful progressive websites like Common Dreams and Truthout, but they've almost all simply posted the news from ABC, no corrections, no further reporting, and no apologies like the ones I've gotten from McClatchy.

And all McClatchy has wanted to do is apologize. They've told me they did nothing wrong because, while ABC may have taken the trouble to google the names of its sources at the NSA and known full well that I'd reported on them before, McClathcy did not do so, and therefore practiced good journalism. This is worse nonsense than it first appears, because what I want McClatchy and other outlets to do is not to mention my name but to report the news that ABC has not reported.

We were lied into a war and we intentionally killed journalists who weren't playing along. And there are people available to bear witness to those facts. Kim Zetter at Wired was willing to mention the evidence on the Palestine Hotel in her new article, but not the evidence of war lies, especially not the evidence of war lies involving the taboo topic of Israel. Zetter did include mention of a fax from the Iraqi National Congress that I had reported on, and she did her own reporting, which is more than anyone else has done. If a single person at any major corporate media outlet did as good a job as Zetter or Demcracy Now, a lot more Americans would know more about the crimes their country has committed.

So it is important that we somehow communicate this simple fact: A piece of news is not less newsworthy because the Disney Corporation doesn't cover it.

These are the facts I want reported:

1. WMD Lies

Adrienne Kinne describes an incident just prior to the invasion of Iraq in which a fax came into her office at Fort Gordon in Georgia that purported to provide information on the location of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. The fax came from the Iraqi National Congress, a group opposed to Saddam Hussein and favoring an invasion. The fax contained types of information that required that it be translated and transmitted to President Bush within 15 minutes. But Kinne had been eavesdropping on two nongovernmental aid workers driving in Iraq who were panicked and trying to find safety before the bombs dropped. She focused on trying to protect them, and was reprimanded for the delay in translating the fax. She then challenged her officer in charge, Warrant Officer John Berry, on the credibility of the fax, and he told her that it was not her place or his to challenge such things. None of the other 20 or so people in the unit questioned anything, Kinne said. Kinne dates this incident to the period just before the official invasion of Iraq or possibly just after. She says that because the US engaged in so much bombing prior to the official invasion, she cannot recall for sure.

See also Wired.

2. Targeting Journalists in the Palestine Hotel

Many of the people, including Americans, whom Kinne spied on were journalists. These included journalists staying at a hotel in Baghdad that later showed up on a list of targets. Again, Kinne says, she expressed concerns to her officer in charge, letting him know that the military should be informed or the journalists should be warned to move to another location. Kinne says Berry brushed her off. He was, she says, "completely behind the invasion of Iraq. He told us repeatedly that we needed to bomb those barbarians back to kingdom come." Berry was promoted to Chief Warrant Officer.

See also Wired.

3. More WMD Lies

David Murfee Faulk says that in May 2004 he found an extremely large text file containing grid coordinates for alleged chemical weapons sites in Iraq. Faulk showed it to his supervisor, who was surprised. But he was not surprised that the file existed, only that it had not been deleted. The supervisor said he had believed all such files had been deleted, and that there had been a great many of them. In fact, according to this supervisor, U.S. Special Forces had gone to the locations and found nothing. That's what usually happens, Faulk's supervisor told him, when you get something from the Israelis. "Four out of five times it's complete and total bullshit."

I asked veteran Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) analyst Ray McGovern what he made of this, and he said that there is "no such thing as a 'friendly' intelligence service. Reporting from liaison services always needs to be taken with utmost reserve. That goes in spades for what comes from the Israelis, the more so since they have unique, yes unique, access to the White House and Pentagon, and are thus able to circumvent the intelligence bureaucracy set up to vet and evaluate raw intelligence and prevent unverified and/or tendentious 'intelligence' from reaching senior officials, lest they be misled."

With regard to other pieces of Israeli "intelligence" on Iraq's mythical weapons of "mass destruction," McGovern said: "Yes, most of the Israeli 'intelligence' on things like chemical weapons in Iraq was of little or no value. Worse still, data like coordinates for suspected chemical weapons-related sites could not be dispassionately evaluated by objective intelligence analysts because the key function of imagery analysis was ceded by the CIA to the Pentagon in 1996. What sergeant was going to tell Rumsfeld that Israeli sources and the 'intelligence' from the Israelis or the likes of Chalabi were certainly not worth what Rumsfeld was paying for. At the same time, if truth was not the objective, but rather reports alleging this or that WMD-related sites, well, the Israelis were performing a useful service for the likes of Doug Feith, who would bundle them up and give them to the 'Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal' for passing to the president. Woof! Proof!"

McGovern seemed to find it perfectly possible that "evidence" of the sort that Faulk stumbled upon was voluminous: "The neuralgic search for WMD pointed up the problem. US chief WMD-searcher, David Kay, has told lurid stories of being awakened in Iraq at all hours by people working in the office of the Vice President: 'Hey we got new coordinates; check them out!'"

McGovern recalled one instance of someone speaking openly about the quality of Israeli "intelligence." When John Negroponte was Director of National Intelligence, National Public Radio’s Robert Siegel asked him to explain why the Israelis have suggested a much shorter timeline for Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon. "I think that sometimes what the Israelis will do give you the worst-case assessment," Negroponte said.

Background:

July 1, 2007, AfterDowningStreet.org Breaks Story of NSA Whistleblower Adrienne Kinne
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24183

May 13, 2008, Democracy Now picks up the story of Kinne
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/13/fmr_military_intelligence_officer_reveals_us

May 19, 2008, AfterDowningStreet.org Breaks Story of NSA Whistleblower David Murfee Faulk
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/33525

October 9, 2008, ABC News picks up both stories with a focus on phone sex
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5987804&page=1

October 10, 2008
Congress notices, yawns, scratches its ass, goes back to what it had been doing. Talk shows make jokes about the phone sex.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 05:51 AM
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48. Et tu, Sen. Leahy? That's what's sickening. They're ALL on the same team. They give us a little
bread and circus to keep us quieted.

-snip-

When I reported on Kinne over a year ago, I reported that Senator Patrick Leahy was ignoring her requests. Now, in response to ABC News picking up the story, Leahy is pretending to be interested in the matter.

-snip-

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