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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:37 AM
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CNN has broken into CNN International
And yes we are talking of recapitalization of banks at a global coordinated level... translation... world wide nationalization of banks
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Doctor Cynic Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:41 AM
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1. Bankers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your credibility!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:42 AM
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2. The free marketeer on right now is scary
he sounds like Hoover
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:43 AM
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3. Yeah, but you gotta love an anachronism, don't you?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:44 AM
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4. I wish any of the hosts reminded him on how guv'ment was ineffective
in the depression

It is a religion
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:51 AM
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7. I just hope that Obama...
...has a New Deal in the works. I have a hunch that we're going to need all the public works projects that we can get.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:53 AM
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10. The last week, the speeches he has mentioned
the major programs of the new deal without using the familiar acronyms

So I suspect they do
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:55 AM
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11. It's interesting.
I've been worried for the last four years that all of this was going to occur. Now it seems to be happening. Yet I'm still shocked.

We humans are strange.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:57 AM
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13. Welcome to the Cassandra club...
now telling people I TOLD YOU SO kind of sucks
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:59 AM
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14. Yeah, it does.
Not very useful, either.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:45 AM
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5. Jim Rogers is brilliant.
But of course, I'm sure you know better. You were so right about the bailout.
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NeoTheo Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:53 AM
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9. Oh as far as I am concerned
that was gone decades ago.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:49 AM
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6. If they don't reform the debt terms here (and elsewhere I'm sure too)
I think they're going to see an even more widespread debt-revolt, or boycott. Those not hit by the mortgages, are hit by credit cards, student loans, and car loans. It has all become NONSENSE. Impractical, unrealistic bullshit. Wages do not support what they're demanding anymore.

And the banks' level of profits is not necessary without the cost of THEM in it.

The game's up. It's time for the ultra-rich to take their billions and call it a day... until the world recovers for a while, and then I'm sure they'll be back.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:52 AM
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8. The world, from listening to this, has two choices
friedman kookiness, that got us here... or a wide lurch to the left

And it is lurching.... this is seismic.

And you know that when the hosts of CNN I confront the free marketeer, though not very well, but still confront


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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:56 AM
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12. Fear In The Streets?
Funny. I'm not scared, saddened yes, but not scared. I guess I've been scared out. I've been expecting this and worse. The worse is probably still to come.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:03 AM
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15. It will either be bad or really bad
depends on how fast they act to do things that need doing... and that until now they have not done

The way folks are starting to talk I hope for the bad
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:13 AM
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18. Me Too. But Think That Is Probably Wishful Thinking
considering those in charge. On the plus side, this will make it a hell of a lot harder for them to steal the election. On the minus side, who would want to win this prize?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:15 AM
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19. I have the sneaky that bush is no longer in charge
serious....

Can't prove it... but... I think he's deferred to others. Why we don't see mister confidence :sarcasm: too much either
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:17 AM
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20. * Never Was In Charge Really. nt
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:07 AM
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16. The governments need to forget about saving banks
and concentrate on saving the middle class and businesses. They're pouring too much lost money into these banks themselves.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:10 AM
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17. They need to do this in order to get the commercial loans flowing
that is why they are doing that

And this does not mean every bank will be saved either.

By the way, we did that in the New Deal
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 03:33 AM
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21. a rash of bank failures would cause people to withdraw their money from accounts and
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 03:54 AM by Douglas Carpenter
the investment instruments that support lending and and the result would be to freeze credit much more than it is already.

Businesses large and small, municipal governments and even charities depend on the regular availability of credit for their survival.

Every significant bank collapse greatly reduces the availability of credit and causes a withdraw of money for the lending that is necessary to keep the economy from grinding to a halt.

Failing to prevent a long string of bank collapses absolutely, positively, 100% guarantees - beyond any shadow of a doubt - a long and deep paralyzing depression and the casting of countless millions, perhaps hundreds of millions of ordinary people all over the world into absolutely desperate poverty.
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