Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

For reality TV, is androgeny the new black?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:29 AM
Original message
Poll question: For reality TV, is androgeny the new black?
Hopefully, this one will come out right
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:40 AM
Response to Original message
1. If it is,,,
I'm androgynous..
Limited small minded people have a habit of fearing ambiguity,difference and alternative identities.Because some people are bigoted,they make sure they are insulated from differences and stay around people similar to themselves.So they don't have to make any effort to humanize the other they see as weird or whatever..

I wish the people with the urges to define others as this or that would just GET OVER IT and deal with the fact we are who we are and everyone is not the same,and they do not have to be..
Geez.
As if being black or androgynous and compared against each other somehow lessens the androgynous or black person or makes them into something more than a person.
Shit that's just stupidity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Not that it's a critcism of you...
But I notice that reality TV rarely, if ever, puts androgeny in a positive light.

It's almost as if it's like how black characters were portrayed on early TV.

Reinforcing negative stereotypes.

Do you agree?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. yeah
I do. It's a kind of trans-phobia.Transgender people get treated bad on TV,Genderqueer androgyny does,so do body modified people and fat people they get treated bad too.

I am sick of it I think it's high time we did away with that shit..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. How do you think that this trend can be countered?
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 01:03 AM by MrScorpio
Obviously, the plight of transgendered people is not being taken seriously.

And as early black actors did to prolong the stereotyping, there are androgenous individuals sacrificing their dignity for a spot in the limelight today?

Who makes the objection and how?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. The only trans-gendered on reality TV I can think of was on "I want to work for Diddy"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:35 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. I think
One way is for people ON TV to demand to be respected.No respect no show.
Secondly anyone out there familiar with said issues should bring it up in conversations with friends acquaintances,strangers.Talk to people,if you ARE androgyny or trans show people you too are a human being.Answer respectful questions even stupid questions IF the questioner is not trying to shame you.

Also when TV is treating a person with disrespect light up the phone lines,write a newspaper or write your own thoughts on forums like DU or blogs.Tell them you think they are acting like assholes and why.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:05 AM
Response to Original message
5. More details please. What reality TV personalities are you referring to?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:14 AM
Response to Reply #5
8. I caught a glimpse of the new Paris Hilton BFF show
And my response was :wtf:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Oh haven't seen the show. I assume it featured a trans-gendered person who portrayed in an
unflattering way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:32 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. You tell me
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. Watched it. I can see your point.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:06 AM
Response to Original message
6. yes ... and no
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Uncle Sinister Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:28 AM
Response to Original message
10. I don't own a TV, but if reality TV is beginning to see gender as fluid rather than binary, I say...
BRAVO! (pun intended)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:58 AM
Response to Original message
13. Since when was the Pat sketch a reality show?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:28 PM
Response to Original message
15. Leave Androgeny Alone!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 06:53 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC