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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:24 AM
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Ringo .... you old fucking goat ........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUsBqDfnIzk

What kinda shit do he ingest/ject just prior to sending the piece of peace and love?

:rofl:
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:26 AM
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1. He looks like a pirate these days.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:27 AM
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2. I love the Beatles' music, but quite frankly Ringo can sod off.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:27 AM
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3. LOL -- but then again who can blame him. EOM
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:28 AM
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4. The least talented of the Beatles by so far it is not worth arguing.
A hack. His yeoman-like drumming is one step above high school band in my opinion.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:30 AM
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6. It worked in a few songs though.. Especially Strawberry Fields.
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digidigido Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:37 AM
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7. God forgive him, he knoweth not what he speaks of
Listen to In My Life, then talk about hack drumming. Your ignorance is louder then Grand Funk Railroad on steroids
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:28 AM
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5. I'm sure he only gets the good shit...
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:41 AM
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8. I don't get it.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 11:12 AM by riverdeep
After so many years, what made him decide now that the mail has become overwhelming?

And he was a great drummer, thank you very much. Totally fit the band, and that's over half the job of a musician.

edit: grammer
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:57 AM
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9. Assuming the drumming is Ringo's
There's been speculation from the start that a lot of it was replaced by Bernard Purdie.

This is ostensibly retyped from a 2/78 issue of Gig magazine:

"New york - According to Bernard Purdie, a substantial amount of the drumming on the early Beatle albums was done by him, not Ringo Starr. Purdie is a New York based session drummer, best known for his seven years with Aretha Franklin.

"I overdubbed the drumming on 21 tracks of the first three Beatle Albums", maintains Purdie. "They paid me a lot of money to keep my mouth shut, but it's been ten years, so f-- it. I guess I can talk about it."

Not many other people are talking about it however, not surprising considering what's at stake. Reached through his lawyer Bruce Grakal, Ringo "does not wish to comment". Beatles producer George Martin would only say "I did not use another drummer," and no one at Capitol-past or present-knows anything or is willing to talk about it.

"I got paid in five figures," Purdie adds, "and that was the largest amount of money I'd ever gotten in my life."

It's actually been 14 1/2 years now. Purdie told Gig that in the summer of 1963, six months before the first Beatle album was release in the U.S., he was contacted to do a session-which initially seemed like al the others he was doing at the time.

"I had never heard of the Beatles," he says, "but their manager, Brian Epstein, called me and took me down to Capitol's 46th street studio. I did all the overdubbing on the 21 songs in nine days."

After Purdie was paid his double session fee of $130 an hour, he says, "Epstein called me into his office and gave me the additional (five figure - smallest would be $10,000) check. I thought they were paying me all that money because they liked what I played. Then he told me I was being paid to keep my mouth shut."

Purdie says he signed a "contract". Does he still have it?

"The contract", he explains, "was the check that I signed and I cashed it! On the back of the check, it was spelled out what I did -'payment for services rendered'. I took up half the check. But I didn't think about making a photostated copy. It didn't mean anything to me."

http://www.beatlesagain.com/breflib/purdie.html
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:29 AM
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10. Even if that's true, his best drumming was done later.
The first three albums were more or less standard fare. He sounds like pretty much any drummer. Songs like 'Strawberry Fields', 'Rain', 'The Sun King', 'Get Back', 'Revolution', or 'Tomorrow Never Knows' show what he was capable of a lot better in my opinion. Even a pretty standard contribution like on 'And Your Bird Can Sing' works; he gets out of the way and lets the gorgeous, snarling guitars take over, providing a simple, driving beat with a few cymbal splashes at key points and some nice counterpoint hi hat rhythms. All that was really needed.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:35 AM
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11. Guess all he needed was a couple more years to finish learning how to drum.
:rofl:

I always liked Ringo. Not sure I even want to see that YouTube, listening to the comments.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:24 PM
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14. He is just telling people (nicely) not to send him any more stuff
to sign.

Look, to those of you complaining about him, the man is getting old and there has to come a time when he says enough is enough. I know my hands have arthritis in them and I can hardly write anymore, and he is older than I am.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:43 AM
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12. I don't believe Ringo is technically capable of doing a track like "Get Back"
and that George Martin got Purdie or Jim Keltner to come in after the Beatles went home, and replaced the drums. Martin always maintained good separation of the drum sound in the studio - it would be pretty easy to do.

JMHO.

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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 08:08 PM
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16. Try watching The Concert For Bangla Desh...
and see Ringo and Keltner side by side.

Bill
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 12:38 PM
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13. Maybe they get his autograph and then sell it on Ebay.
:shrug:
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 07:01 PM
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15. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with this. He's been
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 07:01 PM by 20score
signing autographs, etc, since 1962. And he was polite.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 08:27 PM
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17. Geez, people, we don't OWN him...
He's been signing shit for a good forty-five years or so. If he wants to stop, and is polite enough to inform people that they may as well not waste their money on postage to send him stuff that he isn't going to sign, more power to him.

I just don't get people's beefs with the personal choices of celebrities. There are much graver things to worry about.

(and no, I don't usually click on threads about celebrities...I just happen to be watching "Help" right now, and it seems to me that Ringo has enough problems with the whole ring thing and all..)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:27 PM
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19. Ummm ..........
..... I don't think I displayed any indication whatever that I had a 'beef' with him. I was amused by his 42 second rant.

And I'm old enough to call him an old goat without being branded an ageist.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 08:34 PM
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18. I hear that..
... "ringo sucked as a drummer" crap all the time. What bullshit. He was not a technically good drummer, he couldn't even do a roll, but he ushered in a whole new style of drumming in pop music that was innovative, very appropriate to the beatles' sound, and roundly imitated.

I think he was a great drummer.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:29 PM
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20. I didn't say anythng about his drum skills
I liked Buddy Rich. I liked Gene Krupa even more. Y'ever hear the 1938 live recording of Sing Sing Sing that the Benny Goodman Orchestra did at Carnegie Hall. Krupa made his bones in that performance. 11 minutes of heart pounding drums.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:45 PM
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21. This is probably the most publicity he's had in a decade.
There may be method in his madness.

He was the least creative of all the Beatles - just a drummer who could keep time (unlike Pete Best),
and was in the right place at the right time.
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