Has there been any NON-Repub confirmation of ACORN "voter fraud"?

[brentspeak]

Why do I get the feeling there's a Karl Rove-like operation going in regards to ACORN?

[tekisui]

1. There can be no "voter fraud" until people vote.

[TheGambit]

2. Voter fraud?

Voter Fraud?

[tekisui]

3. Your link says nothing about Voter Fraud.

What's your point?

[TheGambit]

4. Maybe you didnt read it all the way through

Im just making a statement that i think its ironic that the repubs are accusing someone of voter fraud. When that's how they have obtained the office to begin with.

[tekisui]

6. They obtained high office through Election Fraud.

The voter suppression, caging, purging and theft is systematic Election Fraud.

Voter Fraud is when an individual votes in the wrong place, under false ID, or multiple times.

Irregularities in registration, whether intentional or not, won't effect the vote, unless some on election day commit Voter Fraud or Election Fraud.

However, having one person registered multiple times, will only get that person one vote. And, a dead person registered cannot vote.

[TheGambit]

7. I'm on your side.

I apologize for not making my intentions clear .The things the article talk about is the real voter fraud or election fraud. Im not trying to contradict you. I am agreeing with you. This is the real crime, what is happening at the election polls.

[tekisui]

8. Indeed.

:thumbsup:

We can't let them steal another one, they won't this time.

[gratuitous]

5. "Voter fraud" is a misnomer

Because for there to be a fraudulent vote, someone has to cast a ballot, and as we all know (in the popular media and out), we haven't had the election yet.

Now, as for "fraudulent" voter registrations, yes, some folks fill out a voter registration card in the name of "Mickey Mouse" or "Elvis Presley." But thanks to a law enacted in 2002 (or maybe it was 2003?), all voter registration cards must be submitted to the elections office. If a group, such as ACORN, believes that some of the voter registrations are fraudulent, they can flag them to the attention of the elections officials.

Now, why was the law changed so that any registration turned in to a get-out-the-vote organization had to be submitted? Well, as you might suspect, it had to do with Republican chicanery. Republicans would mount a voter registration drive, then sort through the cards and trash the registrations that indicated the voter was a Democrat or an independent. People who thought that they had registered for an election were being turned away from the polls, because there was no record of their registration. So Congress changed the law, and any group that put on a registration drive was bound by law to submit every registration they got.

Well, Republican chicanery is not so easily blunted. Substituting for their previous dirty trick of not submitting registration cards, they thought up a new dirty trick: Fill out spurious registrations, then blow the whistle on the groups (notably ACORN) that were submitting these registrations. Voter fraud! they squeal. And the popular media, which really do know better, gullibly repeat the tricksters’ line, lending it credence, and fomenting doubt in the public mind about the legitimacy of the voting process.

Republicans are going to lose, and lost big next month. They know this. And they are doing their level best to piss in the well and poison our discourse in preparation for the next election cycle.

Don’t be fooled.

[brentspeak]

11. I suspected as much

The whole ACORN "scandal" is just a manufactured GOP ruse to both discredit ACORN and manipulate the election.

[dkofos]

9. They got NOTHING. The RW are really pushing a non story as cover

for their voter suppression tactics.

[csziggy]

10. The Repubs have been afraid of ACORN's voter registration efforts since at least 2000

The attempts to discredit ACORN is part of the GOP's effort to suppress minority votes and is intimately tied up with the US Attorney firings.

John Atlas has written a series of article about it:
Mock the Vote - http://nhi.org/online/issues/150/mockthevote.html
Since the Justice Department axed nine U.S. attorneys, all eyes have been on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, but the scandal began with a GOP strategy to stifle grass-roots registration of poor minority voters.

ACORN Under Fire, But Is It Justified? -- Rooflines http://www.rooflines.org/1171/acorn_under_fire_but_is_it_justified/
Who’s Afraid of ACORN, and Why -- Rooflines http://www.rooflines.org/1173/whos_afraid_of_acorn_and_why/

Voter registration group ACORN long a target of GOP operatives http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3854.shtml

The BRAD BLOG : EXCLUSIVE: ACORN Takes Control of High-Level GOP Front Group ACVR's Internet Domain Names! http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4519

TomPaine.com - Out to Get ACORN http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/06/11/out_to_get_acorn.php

OpEdNews » US ATTORNEYGATE, ACORN, VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THE MAINSTREAM PRESS http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_john_atl_070618_us_attorneygate_2c_aco.htm

[brentspeak]

12. Thanks, good links.

[csziggy]

13. I spent an hour or so checking on still available links about this

I have several CDs of articles dating from 1998 covering the lead up to and following the 2000 election and remembered some questions about ACORN and voter registrations back then. In 2004 there were even more question brought up. Although I have saved HTML files, I wanted to locate currently viable links for other people to reference. This was only part of what I found in the first four Google results for "ACORN indictments" - there are plenty more out there, about 80-90% are Repub planted stuff trying to get ACORN charged with voter fraud.