How long in jail should Ashley Todd get?

[brettdale]

A couple of months? A couple of years?

Has Fox news said sorry, for blasting this story out yesterday?

[BlooInBloo]

1. Whatever a 6'4" black man would have gotten for carving a 'B' into a white woman's face...

in Pittsburgh, PA.

[lynettebro440]

7. Bingo

you got that right.

[brettdale]

17. A question you have to ask

What say the police believed her and arrested someone for the crime? would she had of confess???

[Wiley50]

29. Too bad she can't be put in men's prison where REAL 6 foot black men can teach her

how it hurts black men to make up such stories.

I know I'm being unkind but what she did hurts all black people

Perhaps she could be sentenced to join a group therapy inside a men's prison

[cboy4]

30. Wow, I completely agree with BlooinBloo about something.

[4 t 4]

31. Perfect Answer! n/t

[4 t 4]

32. Perfect Answer! n/t

[BoneDaddy]

33. No, but it should be severe

I understand where you are coming from but lying about it and doing it to someone are two different acts.

[Jed Dilligan]

34. The correct answer is: whatever a black woman filing a false report

accusing a white man would get. And her mental illness should receive exactly as much consideration as a black felon's mental illness would receive in Pittsburgh, PA.

[BoneDaddy]

36. No, actually the correct response is what the law states

instead of irrational emotional appeal.

[Jed Dilligan]

40. What I said IS the law. What kind of law do you believe in?

One where stupid white girls get preferential treatment?

[LisaL]

42. I've yet to see people ending up in jail for a serious period of

time for false allegations, be they black or white. If you have any evidence to suggest otherwise, do provide a link. Of the cases I know, these false accusers skate off into the sunset, so to speak, without going to jail for it.
Some might get a slap on the wrist, but that's about it.

[Jed Dilligan]

43. She will get preferential treatment for being white.

[LisaL]

46. I don't see that you have anything to back up that claim.

[Jed Dilligan]

49. Spoken like a representative of the system.

What are you? Judge? D.A.? Clerk? Bailiff? We all know how you work, we don't need evidence. It's on you to prove otherwise in this case and so many others.

[LisaL]

50. Another claim that has nothing to do with reality.

I have no connection to the "system."

[Jed Dilligan]

52. Okay. Then you've been duped by them.

Good bye.

[BoneDaddy]

53. Yeah white girls

deserve to be treated worse. What childish crap. Don't further inflame the race issue. It is so funny to watch some liberals become as bloodthirsty and punitive as the rabid conservatives.

[Jed Dilligan]

58. Way to twist my words. I said she should be treated the SAME,

which is worse, generally, than the way they are treated now. And I will hold to that until the courts stop discriminating against people of color.

[LisaL]

60. You've provided not a single example to support your claim.

[Jed Dilligan]

61. Oh shut up. The patterns of discrimination are well-established.

Maybe the one case of a black woman making up an assault by a white guy doesn't exist, since most black people have better sense than to start race riots. But in almost any common category of crime, especially drug offenses, the racist enforcement and sentencing patterns are so well-established that you only expose your own ignorance by asking for "evidence."

[LisaL]

63. Since you claim there are so many cases, it should be so

easy to provide one.
Should it not? Who exactly went to prison for a long time because of false allegations?
:eyes:

[Jed Dilligan]

64. Who was even charged with it?

You're talking about a hypothetical situation within the context of a system whose racism is KNOWN.

[LisaL]

41. How much would that be?

Can you provide at least one actual case of that happening, and the woman ending up in jail?

[Jed Dilligan]

44. I've never been to Pittsburgh.

I would hope that women who make up rape accusations would get lots of hard time, because of the impact both on suspects and women with real cases. But I don't make the law. I assume that Pittsburgh courts like other courts routinely give maximum sentences to defendants of color and minimum sentences to white, middle-class defendants.

[LisaL]

48. Hope dies last.

And I presume you know what happens when you assume.

[Jed Dilligan]

51. Whatever. If they have some magical, non-racist court in Pittsburgh

that would let a black woman walk for pulling the same shit, then she should walk. But I feel sorry for the people of Pittsburgh if anyone there walks for such a crime.

[Canuckistanian]

47. That seems fair

As the detective said in "National Treasure", somebody has to go to jail.

[SlowDownFast]

57. Bloo, you never fail to hit the nail. n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

2. What's the usual sentence for a first time offender filing a false police report?

[OKNancy]

10. Probably not much. I don't want her to serve jail time...

but I think she should do 5000 hours of community service in a homeless shelter or a food bank or something like that.

[Jack Rabbit]

23. . . . and get professional help

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Depends on what she's eventually charged with and convicted of.

She has the same due process rights as everybody else, and I would assume that whatever her penalty turns out to be is consistent with the law.

[daninthemoon]

4. is what she did worse than a pot smoker who might face mandatory

sentencing? hell yes. throw away the key. the wicked twit could have gotten someone killed.

[Cleita]

5. Seems she needs a psychiatric evaluation first. n/t

[gatorboy]

6. What's the average time for filing a false report?

Honestly, it doesn't matter. The girl's a pariah now. Hopefully they'll keep her on suicide watch.

[MNDemNY]

13. Add to that a Hate crime enhancement.

[ShortnFiery]

16. "Hopefully they'll keep her on suicide watch." Yes, I wish she would get mental health counselling

in the very near future, like TODAY! :shrug:

[snake in the grass]

67. Hopefully not.

That would mean one less piece of republican shit to worry about. Seriously, after all the crimes they have committed, I think it is time to tone down on the sympathy. They are a threat to civilization and must be, at least, marginalized.

[gatorboy]

68. Oh it's not sympathy.

She's going to be a complete outcast. Which is probably worse than any jail time.

[snake in the grass]

70. I hear you.

This will follow her for a very long time, and rightfully so. Perhaps at some point in the far future she will truly regret it, accept responsibility, and not blame others for her suffering. Perhaps, but I doubt it. It's simply part of the conservative psyche to not be able to accept responsibility.

[magbana]

8. Actually, it is her collaborator in the McCain campaign that should

be going to the slammer.

[fed_up_mother]

9. Is that before or after she gets out of the psych ward?

[Sanity Claws]

11. She belongs in a mental institution

with a lot of therapy. No way she should be released back into society until her head is straightened out.

[burythehatchet]

12. none. she needs help.

[MNDemNY]

14. Help into her cell.

[blue sky at night]

15. worse than jail for a puke like her.....

make her do weeks of public service at homeless shelters and soup kitchens. Specifically the cleaning of the restrooms and washing dishes.





See when you tell the truth, you don't have worry about the consequences.



CHange, HOpe, OBama......!

[ShortnFiery]

21. She's young and deluded. I honestly don't wish her ill will. I hope she gets mental health

help and evolves into a good person.

I'm not ready to "trash" her now ... IMNSHO that's something a cold hearted right wing republican would do.

I want her to get help and not to harbor such prejudices in the future.

[blue sky at night]

28. how is helping homeless people cold hearted....

it is exactly the opposite, and it will melt her COLD heart.







CHange, HOpe, OBama......!

[GirlieQ]

18. How long did the RNC welcome comittee get for 'intent to cause riots'? n/t

[jeepnstein]

19. Community Service.

I'll let you decide what community.

[Forkboy]

20. She'll get probabtion with mandatory counseling of some sort.

I doubt she'll see jail unless she has some kind of priors.

[Turbineguy]

22. It looks like McCain

will be climbing the cross for her.

[Dorian Gray]

24. She should get whatever the

max is for that type of lying. It's awful!

[norepubsin08]

25. 20 years and have her republican co-conspirators

who put her up this serve that time also!!!

[meow2u3]

26. In PA, she can get about a year

Filing a false report is a 3rd-degree misdemeanor and, because PA law is unusual, it can get you up to a year in jail if convicted (this would be a 1st degree or Class A misdemeanor in most states).

[pitohui]

39. it's two years in louisiana

maybe it's too bad she didn't try it down here

[Warpy]

27. She needs to get inpatient psychiatric treatment

in lieu of jail. Seriously.

However, the bleaters like Drudge, Pox News and others should be forced to show large retractions front and center for the next week.

They all need to apologize to black folks, to Democrats, and to Obama supporters from both parties, in that order.

[Geek_Girl]

35. Locked up in a padded room

nt

[Ghost in the Machine]

37. 180 days hard labor on a chain gang, handcuffed to some large black men

[pitohui]

38. since this was for purposes of election fraud more than normal

in my state filing a false report is supposedly 2 years (no one really gets any time, it's probation) but considering the magnitude of what she was trying to do -- steal a federal election -- i think there HAS to be some jail time not just probation

if i were the judge i would talk to other judges but i'm thinking a year would be fair

[Jed Dilligan]

45. Reckless endangerment. Hate crime.

False report should be the smallest charge they file.

[ladjf]

54. It should pointed out that she was willfully attempting to influence

the outcome of a Federal election. That's not "chopped liver".

[MrMickeysMom]

55. Until that acne clears up, at least...

I think it's bacterial.... it's gotta great big "B"!

[Why Syzygy]

56. Most likely she will have to pay the city

for lost man hours.

[SoCalDem]

59. She won't get jail time.. She'll get probabtion and counseling..n/t

[Withywindle]

62. Well, at least until after the election for sure.

And she should be forced to sit in cuffs (protected, of course, I'm not a sadist) in the middle of an Obama supporters' election night party. :evilgrin:

[Iggo]

65. Whatever's standard for what she did where she did it.

Equal protection under the law for EVERYONE.

I'm for it when I like it, and I'm for it when I hate it.

That's kinda the point.

[47of74]

66. Several months in some sort of insitution

As I've said elsewhere, I think Ashley Todd is a woman in need of need of psychological help. I think she needs to spend at least several months in an institution of some sort for what she has done. And make damn sure that any release is conditional upon her continuing treatment once she's out.

[puerco-bellies]

69. She should get help.

I think that she is unbalanced. Kind of a social/political Muchausen Syndrome.

[springhill]

71. Nothing............

I think anyone who would do something like that needs some mental help, and that's what she should get.