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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:44 AM
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Things that make you go DUH.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/us/politics/02undecided.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

Article about the irritating "undecideds". If you've ever gone door-to-door or done any phonebanking, you will feel your blood pressure rise.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:53 AM
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1. The defining moment in this race was the week of the first debate:
When the bailout was being discussed:

McCain saying "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" - then one day later saying he's suspending his campaign (debate included) until he can work with washington to solve the crisis. The next day, he parachutes into Washington and essentially derails the bipartisan negotiations. Then the next day, he attends the debate anyway.

meanwhile. Obama, always discussing the shaky economy, delivers a 5-point proposal which are then adopted as conditions in the revised bailout. He was cool, calm, quick to action and always on message.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 07:59 AM
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2. So true.
And many, many people realized that as the definite turning point. But some are still clueless.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:07 AM
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4. It was the defining moment for repugs with a remaining functioning brain cell..
The REST of them are still hangin' on.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:51 AM
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6. Since the topic is undecided voters...
this is what we have to work with.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:04 AM
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3. Oh for crap's sake.
“For as awful as things are with this Republican administration, there’s something about the whole conservative thing that appeals to me.”


IQ of a stump. This "conservative thing" is what MADE it awful! Do these people not have a lick of common sense?
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 08:29 AM
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5. I think it's the economic conservative, socially liberal folks
Edited on Sun Nov-02-08 08:34 AM by Tallison
who are struggling, and the inclusion of Palin -- and the RW Christian ideology she stands for -- on the ticket makes it harder for them. Who knows how they'll split? I know one very politically opinionated guy at work who for the first time in his life plans on not voting at all.

ETA: I don't think such people are necessarily stupid. I can empathize sometimes with fiscal conservatism, but socially I could never go Republican. I''ll vote for the imperative to appoint liberal SCOTUS justices every time. Moreover, I think the US' imperial foreign initiatives counts as a profligate waste of precious resources that should be invested at home.
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