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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:40 AM
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MTP is A War
Between Pearle and Delay...versus ...Sestak and Andrews..
Delay and Pearle try to take over the strategy of the War is Great under Bush...trying to negate what Sestak is saying. Why they have these two crimminals on (pearle and Delay) amazes me! Andrews and Sestak doing a good job stating the civil war status....Delay and Pearle continue to try to interrupt anytime they get talking. Just like they did in the Congress...god I hate them.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:42 AM
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1. Yup. The most common RW "debating" tactic...
Interrupt loudly.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 01:46 PM
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44. Then, hog the air-time.
That way, the only blah-blah is theirs and then the commercials come.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:42 AM
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2. I can not believe no one has asked Perle why he even has any credibilty
Edited on Sun Mar-18-07 08:47 AM by leftchick
when it comes to Iraq. There are so many lies you can throw back in his face he said four years ago. Instead they treat him like he has a clue. :puke:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:45 AM
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3. He has gotten everything.. EVERYTHING wrong...
Shame on NBC for even booking him...
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:22 AM
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35. uh, this IS nbc...
they have exactly ONE, many faceted agenda.

and that is to prop up little lord pissypants, which allows them to create a political climate that allows THEM, the (vast, righwing) media, to CREATE public opinion by reporting only what they want, with THEIR spin, so all legislation can render even more profits to THEM, especially when it comes to wars, and manufacturing/selling weapons (GE, mother company of nbc).

remember, jack welch, ceo at that time of nbc, and bush's cousin, headquartered in fox news, CALLED the 2000 election for bush, and immediately started condemning counting all the votes.

mr. welch publicly stated that all news departments should be allowed to report the news in a manner that was beneficial to THEIR bottom line, profits.

THEY won then, and they are still trying to win now.

there are two channels that i absolutely refuse to watch, in any of it's incarnations. this is fox and nbc.

both are whores of largest magnatude. (with no offense meant to respectible sex industry workers...)
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:45 AM
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4. NO CREDIBILITY
Edited on Sun Mar-18-07 08:47 AM by capi888
Sestak and Andrews are doing good, countering them and not giving them...Delay is rude as is Pearle...can I say a cornered dog...Sestak, and Andrews doing good not giving into them...have statistics etc.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:38 PM
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46. Hell, even Walter Jones - coiner of the Freedom Fries phrase -
said that between the two who testified in Sept. 2000 - Perle and his Dem rebuttal, Gen. Wesley Clark, that only one of them was right - and it wasn't Perle.

Jones, of course, has become one of the few Republicans who now openly opposes the Iraq war.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:49 AM
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5. Why The Fuckiung Hell IUs perle & delay In MTP???
Why, goddammit, WHY!!!!!!!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:50 AM
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6. I let my son turn to Spongebob
He has more credibility than those two.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:12 AM
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18. Delay has a new book out. No surrender.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:15 AM
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34. Is it less expensive than toilet paper? ......
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:51 AM
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7. Someone PM me when...
Either Sestak or Andrews does the appropriate thing and leans across the table and slaps the snot out of those two has-beens.

Otherwise, it's all wrestling talk.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:54 AM
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9. Close.
Mr. Potatohead was reaching under the table to give Tom Delay a hand job to go with his non-responsive filibusters.



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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:52 AM
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8. Sestak's got a wee bit more credibility on issues of war strategy, I think.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:54 AM
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10. Tom Delay just questioned the patriotism of anyone who dissents.
Hot Tub thinks he is a patriot? Quelle delusions!

BTW, why do we have to listen to a twit under indictment on a political discussion show on Sunday morning? Why, Timmy?

I know, KKKarl told you to get the hate out there again, didn't he? All about that accesssssss, isn't it Timmy?

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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:38 AM
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22. How about the patriotism of people who use their position in Congress for
personal and financial gains?

Tom DeLay has nothing that I want to hear --ever!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:27 AM
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38. Sestak retorted with a smackdown that went over Hot Tub Tommy's head
Sans transcript, Sestak mentioned that DeLay was responsible for wanting to stop funding for the troops when they were in harm's way in Bosnia. So much for closing ranks and supporting the troops during wartime, Tommy...

Speaking of which, why the hell was DeLay even on MTP?


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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:57 AM
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11. I think this showed up the LOSERS that
Have been wrong from day one. Pearle and Delay, the most corrupt people in our gov't trying to convince their RW supporters, that they have the real statistics on the war, WHEN , we are losing our ASS in Iraq...and killing our soldiers and the Iraq people...These two, need to be in prison, along with the folks in the WH.
Sestak and Andrews, did not sit back and let them over talk them. Loved it when Sestak said to Delay, that he said, their would be a boulavard down Bagdad named after GWB...Hhahahah...Delay was offended...!!! Andrews and Sestak had their ducks in a row, didn't let them get away with talking over them.....good going guys...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:59 AM
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12. DeLay should be in prison. What happened to his legal troubles???
~snip~ DeLay stepped down as majority leader September 28 after being accused of criminal conspiracy in a 2002 campaign finance scheme to funnel money from six corporate donors through the Republican National State Elections Committee and back to Texas Republican candidates for the state legislature. The charge carries a two-year maximum prison sentence and a $10,000 fine. Less than a week later, on October 3, DeLay was indicted on a money laundering charge, which could carry a life
sentence.

http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=189
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:00 AM
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13. MTP is corrupt as well
Lil Timmy Russert is fraud. His show has become an integral part of the right wing machine. The show is now a platform for launching attacks and psyops.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:06 AM
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15. Maybe SO...
I think this MTP program, showed how WRONG Pearle and Delay were. I noticed Tim did not interupt to much, and let them go at it. Sestak with his experience nailed them good. So did Andrews...so was not a win win for Delay and Pearle. Tom Delay was pushing his book, and Pearle who knows...except they were there to bring support to BUSHIE's 30% following. I guess thats the best they can do :puke:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:01 AM
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14. Well, Andrews Did Get A Good Lick In On delay:
He said he'd rather take someone like Sestak's word about war in Iraq that tom delay's. I can't remember his words exactly, but I'm sure he was referring to delay's avoidance of military service compared to Sestak's, who is a retired VICE ADMIRAL of the U.S. NAVY, and who is THE HIGHEST RANKING FORMER MILITARY OFFICER to serve in the House, quite a contrast to delay. I'll wait for the transcript on this part. It was a stinging rebuke of the repuke.


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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:11 AM
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17. Yes he did Dinger
I thought that was a real zinger. He let him have it..Andrews was on today, while Sestak was explaining the strategy and the results of the war, while her SERVED!!! They had it worked out, to put these two under the rug!!
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:39 AM
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31. He wasn't referring to Delay's lack of service -
Edited on Sun Mar-18-07 10:40 AM by against all enemies
He was referring to Delay's lecturing Sestak on the proper military strategy that should be used in Iraq. Andrews cut him off at the knees. Actually I think MTP putting Pearle and Delay on was great. Having those two criminals on the show, defending the War can only help bring the troops home.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:08 AM
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16. Bushco must have deeded over
Fort Knox to Timmy boy to have those two losers on. His nose is crinkling just smelling the odor of that money. MTP is just coming on in my neck of the woods so I will give it a pass. I am not in the mood for satire or fiction today.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:17 AM
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19. Cheney and Bush are desparate!!!
Edited on Sun Mar-18-07 09:19 AM by capi888
I believe they thought by putting on Delay and Pearle, would solidify their base for support!!! They are sinking fast, and these two is their wild card. If all else fails put on the two biggest mouths our party has...regardsless of their stature in gov't....what a waste!!! But, I think Sestak and Andrews had it covered...
Also, notice...Steven Hadley on "This WeeK' When these guys come on the Sunday talk shows, you better believe the WH is in BIG TROUBLE...and they send out the talking heads...
The game is UP!!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:26 AM
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20. And it always amazes me that
the Sunday talkshow hosts believe the public is so gullible that we will believe that crap.
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:29 AM
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21. Its all about ratings....
Which as the intelligent people who watched this today, could really believe Pearle and Delay...What a peice of horse pocky..I think Sestak and Andrews really won the debate with facts and statistics..while Delay and Pearle repeated to the public, the same oh, sameoh, 911 crap!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:43 AM
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23. Delay is trying to make himself relevant?
Couldn't the GOP cough up a more credible spokesman?
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:09 AM
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25. I tought I heard that DeLay wants to break into TV as a conservative pundit
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:33 AM
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30. I guess killing roaches, mice, misc. vermin
for a living gets old.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:34 AM
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40. He's like the "Guy in the Edgar suit" from Men in Black.
Only in reverse.
:spray:
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:47 AM
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24. don't you think MTP ought to get a SLEW of condemnation emails for this??!!
Can we DU this? This is SUCH an outrage that they picked these two despicable bastards to represent the right side, and give them a public audience, it is really an outrage!!!!

MTP is a piece of garbage show anyway, but this is REALLY over the top.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:15 AM
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26. On it. Be right back. n/t.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:25 AM
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27. I just told Tim that Hot Tub Tom and Pearle are not news and this is
not the press. This show is a joke and I can't possibly learn anything from it. I told him I get better info from Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:28 AM
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28. Delay and Perle should be on trial at the Hague
Certainly not invited on any TV shows as "experts". They have not been right about anything.


:grr: :grr:
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:29 AM
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29. Eyeballs for the Advertisers!!!
Come on, people!
Get the sand out of your eyes and wake up this fine Sunday morning!

Perle and Delay are on MTP to put YOUR eyeballs in front the TV so that you watch the fucking commercials. And to piss you off so that you feel bad about the world so that you will go shopping later.

What ads were shown on MTP this morning? What companies are sponsoring Russert? Please, someone watching now write down a list of sponsors here.

Now... quit bitching about the obvious, and start talking about how you'll stop buying whatever product it is that is sponsoring this show. You'll never buy anything again by which ever company just paid for that last commercial on MTP. Say it out loud, say it often. Otherwise, you're just playing your part exactly as they want you to.

You want change? That's the way it going to happen.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:59 AM
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32. Most of commercials on MTP aren't exactly selling soap. They're >
general PR for ADM, Dow Chem., Boeing, AT&T, Bank of Scotland, GE. A few retirement investment companies tossed into the mix that an average person might go out and "buy" but other than that there's not much to scratch off your shopping list.


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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:38 PM
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42. Most MTP advertisers are defense contractors and their financiers
Write them all -- and thank them for giving you a clue as to where your presonal spending will NEVER go.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:10 AM
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33. How can the invasion/occupation cheerleaders tell us all is well
when that quagmire is sucking in more and more of our troops?

I didn't see MTP, but those dopes helped lie us into this bs war, why should anyone believe a word they have to say now?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:23 AM
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36. The Prince of Darkness pulling up 10 year-old quotes of Gore? And *DeLay*???
A discredited PNAC fuck and an indicted Congressman who was forced to resign in shame?


Wow.

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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:10 PM
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41. Hope you don't mind, I used some your sentence in my letter to MTP:
A discredited PNAC blowhard and an indicted Congressman who was forced to resign in shame? Could you have found any less credible people to take part in a serious discussion?
:toast:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 01:43 PM
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43. Awesome!!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:25 AM
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37. I just wish someone turned to Perle and tell him it was All His Fault and then go into PNAC!!!! eom
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:29 AM
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39. It's good for our side
They have to drag these two sorry criminals out to defend this Iraq war policy because no elected Republicans will dare to show their face anymore. And they tried the same tactics that used to work so well - yell, interrupt, call critics traitors - and it just isn't working anymore. The Dem politicians did a great job explaining their positions in a calm, rational way, making Delay & Perle sound even more ridiculous. This is the face of the Republican party - Delay, the disgraced indicted corrupt politician, and Perle, the delusional arrogant neocon. How pathetic.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:36 PM
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45. Absoutely disgusting that NBC would choose two such despicable,
lying scumballs and allow them to promote their lies on national teevee.
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