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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:25 PM Original message |
The Polygamous Marriage argument (tying it to gay marriage) is bullshit! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, you are right. Our CT state supreme court's decision looks at the |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Here is an article from May which focuses on the "slippery slope" argument... |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. I disagree about there being no biological basis. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Ok, I'll agree that there may be a biological basis for polyamory... |
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piesRsquare (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
54. I'm bisexual |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
89. Great statement, and its important to hear from people who are open about being bisexual... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why is this BS? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Same-sex marriage is a human rights issue |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I am |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. You are not only able to love more than one woman |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Have you ever only loved 1 woman? Or have you always only loved 3 at a time? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
44. Bah |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. You miss the point and ignore the questions. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. What seems ethical |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. If you have not relation to the subject |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Thanks |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Poverty does not remove your personhood. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. You being a person |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. You see no point in personalizing issues yet insult. Ah. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. If you feel insulted |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. Unfortunately laws are needed since a lot of people aren't ethical. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. But if I may |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. More rhetoric |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Deleted message |
Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Intursive and impolite? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. The situation here |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. "I see no point in personalizing issues". You offered your "loves". |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Why should "loves" be personal and about persons? |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
84. No one figures out at age 12 that they "must" love multiple people at the same time |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. I agree. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. How do you guarantee that all 3 partners are favored equally? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #21 |
46. Civil marriage |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
90. Having grown up in California... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Yes but family units including multiple adults do exist. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. That might be what it's about to you, but that isn't a human rights issue |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Doesn't the existence of bisexuality make polyamory a human rights issue? |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I think i'll get myself in trouble and start a seperate thread on this lol. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Lol, I'll think I'll respond anyway.... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I wasn't attempting to equate the two things directly |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Good point, but if polyamorous people want their rights to be acknowledged... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I agree, and hopefully a victory in one fight is a boon to another |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I'm not an expert on bisexuality |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Gollygee |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. pot kettle. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:43 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Nope n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
77. try here, explains in a few more words... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Well then you'll have to ask the Supreme Court |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. No I don't have to |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Well this thread is about LEGALIZING different kinds of marriage |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Point taken |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
67. Have a nice hypocrisy! |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Point proven |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. You are contstantly being invited to explain |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. My language |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Wow |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Polyandry is fine by me |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. You won't explain since someone, "europeans", has criticized your language. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Admitting not understanding |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. No, it is about Equal Rights, Civil Rights. Why should I be prevented from marrying |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Legally, no. Same sex marriage is an equal protection issue - GLBT people are |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I guess I'm arguing the principle of the thing. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. There are different principles. If someone wants to come up with a whole different |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Well I'm all for the Govt treating us the same regardless of sex. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. There is a women's group backing this... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Sex isn't the issue. It's the different structure for multiple partners which |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. No. Emotions only come in when the populace is asked to vote. |
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LBJDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think any adult should be able |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. +1 |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. This is a separate argument... |
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LBJDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. I'm not sure what you're saying |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The right to enter a contract isn't a human right |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
61. The right to enter into a contract is indeed a basic right. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The right to enter into any contract you want to is not a basic right |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Even polygamists have experienced some oppression, that's not my argument... |
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LBJDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Oh; I see now. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
83. Not with tax benefits, no. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. The argument for polygamy isn't bullshit, but trying to tie it to the issue of same-sex marriage is. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. You're right, except for the 2nd paragraph which I would disagree with... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm not sure how strong an argument for legal marriage that is |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. Gay couples are virtually identical to straight couples 98% of the time. |
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piesRsquare (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 06:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
55. Hallelujah! |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. Marriage is a choice. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I understand what you are saying... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. tired of hearing polygamy in the same sentence as gay marriage. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
37. I Don't Think There Are As Many People Arguing FOR Polygamy As Much As |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-16-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. My thread was motivated by anger... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. I've not noticed anything in "the media" so much as I've noticed |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
48. Yes, it is. Why is it being presented on this board is a whole |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
57. What about POLY couples? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
76. Again it comes down to choice. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Excellent points... |
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elshiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Thank you, rucky. |
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codjh9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
82. Of course it is! It's as outlandish as the nuts who try to lump gays and pedophiles together n/t |
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