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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 12:51 PM
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"Bong Hits 4 Jesus": Free-Speech Case Divides Bush and Religious Right
WASHINGTON, March 17 — A Supreme Court case about the free-speech rights of high school students, to be argued on Monday, has opened an unexpected fissure between the Bush administration and its usual allies on the religious right.

As a result, an appeal that asks the justices to decide whether school officials can squelch or punish student advocacy of illegal drugs has taken on an added dimension as a window on an active front in the culture wars, one that has escaped the notice of most people outside the fray. And as the stakes have grown higher, a case that once looked like an easy victory for the government side may prove to be a much closer call.

On the surface, Joseph Frederick’s dispute with his principal, Deborah Morse, at the Juneau-Douglas High School in Alaska five years ago appeared to have little if anything to do with religion — or perhaps with much of anything beyond a bored senior’s attitude and a harried administrator’s impatience.

As the Olympic torch was carried through the streets of Juneau on its way to the 2002 winter games in Salt Lake City, students were allowed to leave the school grounds to watch. The school band and cheerleaders performed. With television cameras focused on the scene, Mr. Frederick and some friends unfurled a 14-foot-long banner with the inscription: “Bong Hits 4 Jesus.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/18/washington/18scotus.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 12:56 PM
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1. "One toke over the line sweet Jesus"
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 12:57 PM
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2. Kids. . .gotta love 'em
This whole concept of this case going before the SCOTUS just cracks me up.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 12:59 PM
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3. Only a pothead
could come up with such an inane slogan.

:silly:

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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 12:59 PM
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4. You know something is wrong when Ken Star is working pro-bono
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 01:01 PM by wuushew
The Bush administration entered the case on the side of the principal and the Juneau School Board, which are both represented by Kenneth W. Starr, the former solicitor general and independent counsel. His law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, is handling the appeal without a fee.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:02 PM
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5. a ridiculous case, and i fully expect the SC to rule against free speech
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 01:02 PM by maxsolomon
the SC has no legitimacy until every one of the Bush 5 are gone.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:37 PM
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9. While they're sitting there
What they say goes... whether we like it or not. :(
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:09 PM
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6. Lawyer Starr is a blithering idiot. I mean, a complete moron. He doesn't even seem to pretend
to make any sense. This is so ridiculous. If the school turned out for watching the torch pass and they had cheerleaders and the band playing and whatever, then an individual expression of humor, using non-threatening and non-vulgar language is so harmless as to be silly. This was funny and it has become ludicrous...
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:11 PM
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7. As a general life rule...
I tend to oppose whatever Ken Starr supports and you know what? It's served me well so far
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:53 PM
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14. nice
:yourock:
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:23 PM
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8. kick
:kick:
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:46 PM
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10. The kid wasn't even on school property.
So the principal suspending him just made her look asinine.... He made up a hilarious sign (when I first read it, I laughed out loud!) to get teevee attention.



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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:52 PM
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13. Well, the issue is still up for debate, to some degree.
If the school was still legally in charge of the students (i.e. in loco parentis) then they do have a case, however, if they were dismissed to the charge of their parents (i.e. school was just let out early) then they (the school board) have no case at all.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 03:13 PM
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16. It sounds like the school was still in charge of the students
Interesting quote from the article:

It is the first Supreme Court case to do so directly since the court upheld the right of students to wear black arm bands to school to protest the war in Vietnam, declaring in Tinker v. Des Moines School District that “it can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.”

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:49 PM
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11. I wonder how they'd react to gong hits 4 Jesus?
:shrug:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:50 PM
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12. If you are going to defend free speech, you, unfortunately, have to defend
a lot of banal juvenile crap.

That's teh way it goes.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 01:58 PM
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15. The really funny thing
is that pot isn't even illegal under Alaska state law. I hope the Bong Hits kid kicks their ass.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:21 PM
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17. kick
:kick:
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