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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:02 PM
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Want to help other Americans this Xmas- Shop Ebay
I have seen so much talk about not shopping walmart- shopping at mom and pop stores etc. I know Ebay/paypal is a big Corporation but the people selling are not.

My community is pretty affluent(I am not) and the store prices reflect that so I purchase almost everything I can on Ebay. Many sellers are every day Americans with too much stuff, stuff they never wanted in the first place etc. and much of it is new. There are so many great people with small shops, no storefront overhead so people are able to sell at lower prices and you can find stuff that you just can't find anywhere else...like I got my kid a bunch of Dungeons and Dragons stuff which is pretty hard to find these days. You can put your own stuff up for sale and then turn around and use the money for whatever you want. I call it the great exchange. There is already enough stuff in the world, it is just a matter of passing it around to the people who want it. I know people worry about what they stuff might look like when it shows up, or maybe it won't work etc but I have had 99% good experiences on Ebay and the sellers are usually appreciative and friendly...no lines, no wasted gas money, no shootings or getting trampled...and paypal will get your money back if there is a problem.

If you want to recycle, reuse and help stop the creation of more stuff...check it out.

I bet there are DUers with ebay stores, post them here and maybe we can shop at your store and help each other out.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:08 PM
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1. I think that's a great idea.
Like you said, lots of enterprising people have set up shop at ebay and they're more responsive than big box places.
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Dis Pater Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:09 PM
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2. craigslist is better, shop local.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:41 PM
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10. ebay is MUCH better for finding what you want.
i don't find craigs list to be nearly as user-friendly.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 05:54 PM
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13. Shopping locally is not a choice
in most small towns.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:22 PM
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27. Depends on where you are -- great in cities
I'm in Boston and I buy almost everything on CL. If I were in a small town it would be harder.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:10 PM
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3. Good idea, but look for real ebayers...
My wife mentioned that she never had a pearl necklace the other day. Being the sensitive husband I am, I took it as a direct order for my Anniversary shopping for December 21. After looking around at the jewelry retailers' web sites, I was not pleased by their offerings. Not for the prices, but because there was nothing interesting about any of them.

So, I decided I'd find her a unique, vintage one. Ebay was the place I found a beautiful one of baroque freshwater pearls from the 1920s, and in almost as-new condition. The price was good, and the seller was one with just about 400 sales and 100% positive feedback, so I bought it.

It was much better than I expected when it arrived. 14k findings and everything, and there was absolutely zero damage.

My wife's going to like it very much, and I know her tastes very well.

Ebay's a challenge, but careful shoppers can find superb deals there. Just avoid the sellers with tens of thousands of sales and all sellers from outside the USA. Look for the individuals who work very hard to make a living on eBay.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:36 PM
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19. You can tell the ones who work hard...
they're the ones who include a "Thank you" note in with your purchase even if it cost under five dollars, and pack with care.

I got a cheapo plastic crochet hook the other day on eBay...under five bucks...the seller actually took the time to write a short note of thanks on the shipping form...

those people always get excellent feedback from me, and I add them to my list of favorite sellers

:)
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 11:03 PM
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29. That is so cool you said that...
I don't sell a ton of stuff on e-bay but I do some. I always write a thank-you note. Initially, I used up a group of actual thank-you notes I had on hand. When they were gone I didn't want to spend a lot. So I bought non-lined index cards and use them. Just the other day I forgot to enclose one so I carefully opened the package and resealed.

It is incredibly nice to hear that my efforts may be appreciated by some!

Thank you!!!
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:14 PM
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23. I don't have "tens of thousands" transactions but I have over 10,000.
And believe me, I take my selling quite seriously. Customer service is my top priority and my DSRs (star rating) and feedback prove it.

Rather than number of feedback, a more accurate predictor of seller performance are their DSRs. These are shown on their feedback page. A seller with 4.7's and above is top quality. Those below mid-4's are on their way out and should be avoided.

Part-time hobby sellers can be just as crummy as big-time powersellers. It's the DSRs that tell the tale though -- not number of feedback.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:13 PM
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4. Great idea!
I'll be putting up a few items for sale on eBay myself.

:kick:
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:21 PM
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5. Go to the older parts of town. Shop at stores that have been around awhile
Shops that care about and know something about the product they sell.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:22 PM
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6. It's crossed my mind that Ebay and Craigslist could forestall a complete economic meltdown
the existence of these enormous marketplaces, that transcend borders, could really be the vehicles that enable people to unload stuff that may tide them over. And the barter site on craigslist is brilliant....

It's possible that these two venues (I know there are others but don't know enough about them to name them) could be pretty important when/if the US economy implodes.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:30 PM
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8. In some ways,
it's already going on. Go to a local post office on any weekday and watch all the ebayers troop in with their boxes. The USPS knows it, too, and heavily encourages them by providing free boxes for Priority Mail.

Or go to your local thrift stores and Goodwill stores several days in a row at about the same time. See the same people? They're ebayers. Same with garage and tag sales.

There's a huge sub-economy already in place and operating smoothly.

I sell on ebay when I have stuff to sell, but I don't do it as a living. I am often amazed at the prices I get for some types of item. I'm also surprised at what bargains I can find when I'm buying.

It just takes a lot of care and attention when buying. It's work to get decent items at decent prices, but it's all there.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:23 PM
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28. CL is everything cool about the Internet
And yeah, I think it's a model for the new kind of economy we're going to move into.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:55 AM
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35. A new economy composed of reselling used stuff?
Like Russia's after its "capitalist revolution"?

Wow, looking forward to that.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 12:25 PM
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38. A new economy where a lot more provision is done locally
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 03:38 PM
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41. if it's local, who needs the internet?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 03:46 PM
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43. The Internet was designed primarily for local communication
Regional network were supposed to do most of the traffic, with rare but available internetwork (hence the name) routing.

By "local" I mean "metropolitan region". It's like a big community blackboard and rummage sale, only much bigger than is feasible physically: rather than driving to the blackboards in Cambridge, Brookline, Natick, and Lowell I can read everybody's in the greater Boston area.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:29 PM
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7. We mostly sell upscale plus-sized women's fashion
We have a couple of wealthy friends who give us their clothes to sell. Some gently worn, others new with tags! Some shoes, purses, and oddball stuff like saris (long scarf like things)and collectable books. Most of the stuff is very expensive items sold at a very reasonable price.
We run auctions occassionally to draw people to the store. Sold about $300 worth this weekend, and we make 50% minus fees. We have sold as much as $30K in one year.

We use the proceeds to fund our gambling trips. We are retired and go to the casino once a week for our "date". We really don't gamble, we purchase entertainment. We take about $50 each and play the penny slots for two or three hours.


Here's the link if you want to peek-

http://stores.ebay.com/Ceyones-Cedar-Chest_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:24 PM
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16. OK, I peeked
and I found something I really really like

it's on my "watch list"

thanks for posting the link

:)
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:34 PM
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9. Etsy
www.etsy.com

more of a personal experience as well.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 03:43 PM
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42. exactly what i was going to post
i haven't bought anything from there yet because i found out about it not too long ago because a friend sells stuff on there.

but there are a lot of things i like. the only problem is there is so much on there that just looking at everything takes a long time although it's enjoyable and you can specify search .

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 04:23 AM
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45. I hear you about the browsing
it takes forever....but....that is a good thing too!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:51 PM
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11. Great post! I'm a die hard eBayer. I sell on eBay on a weekly basis & often buy too.
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 04:53 PM by TheGoldenRule
Right now, I'm looking for a vintage watch on eBay for my hubby for Christmas this year. And I asked my husband for some craft items that are from people who sell on eBay but also have their own websites.

Etsy is also great and I hope to sell a handmade product of my own on there soon. :thumbsup:

And I agree with what was posted upthread that Ebay & Etsy & Craigslist may well be what keeps millions of people afloat during this economic crisis we're in. I know eBay kept our family afloat when we were living as the working poor just a few years ago.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 04:55 PM
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12. eBay thanks you for that ad! (NT)
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:13 PM
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14. My husband sells model railroad items on ebay
His store is:
http://stores.ebay.com/zug-meister-trains

He's been an ebay fan since its early days. The first thing he ever sold on ebay was an old advertising poster he found in the basement of a building we had bought back in 2000. When the poster sold for $400+, he was hooked. We also sold a bunch of stuff under our personal account on ebay when we moved two years ago. Great site.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:19 PM
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15. I've been doing that for a long time
I would rather see regular people trying to make a living get my business than some bigass corporation.

I can find just about anything I want on eBay...much of it new, even...although I'm not above buying someone else's used jeans or sweaters or whatever (not underwear, though).

My latest purchase was a box of fabric rolls that I cut into 1/2 inch wide strips and knit or crochet into other things like hotpads, rugs, etc.

:)
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:30 PM
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17. actually these days ebay is all about the power sellers, not the little guys
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 06:35 PM by pitohui
i don't see how an honest person can compete, we are competing with people who apparently don't pay anything for their products at all, if they can afford those fees

plus now we can't get feedback on buyers and know what kind of buyer we're dealing with?

i've been ripped off by bad buyers before so the new feedback structure just caused me to wash my hands of this mess

use craigslist, the price is right and the person has to look you in the eye and come to your place to pick up the stuff and pay cash -- makes it kinda hard for somebody to run a rip-off -- also i can sell stuff that weighs more because i don't have to worry about the shipping (i can't lift heavy boxes)

read the thread thru and think about the logic you can't have it both ways -- if somebody is getting big money for selling used clothes, then the buyers aren't getting a good deal, if buyers are getting "steals," where is the profit for the seller after all the fees are paid? ebay was good in the late 1990s, by now, they just fee you to death coming and going, between them and shipping, there is no profit there to be made -- i'm not a person who can with a straight faced sell used clothing for a ridiculous price, i guess i envy those who can but come on, used clothing is a couple dollars at the thrift store, that's more than the shipping alone on ebay...i wouldn't know how to hustle something like that...


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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:32 PM
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18. Can we post links to our favorite sites?
I have a couple I go to pretty regularly...


the styles might be a little too funky for some, but I love the flowing lines of the clothing sold by these people...


1. http://stores.ebay.com/Apacket_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsxQ3asstQQtZkm>



2. http://stores.ebay.com/HOLYCLOTHING-EXCLUSIVES-Sizes-Sm-5X_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsxQ3asstQQtZkm>


3. http://stores.ebay.com/lotusinthemoonlight_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsxQ3asstQQtZkm>
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:18 PM
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24. You and I would recognize each other on the street.
I have a closet full of Lotus in the Moonlight and a number of skirts from Holy Clothing.

:hi:
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 11:20 PM
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30. Great Links!
Thank you. In my younger days I was really big on "Gunne Sax". I am still fond of the style. I am sure there are some lotusinthemoonlight items in my future!
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:11 AM
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31. I have bought from
your last two sellers. LOL.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:15 AM
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32. popular stores!
I'll have to check them out.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:40 PM
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20. To get up to 30% off BIN see here:
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 06:41 PM by MelissaB
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18&threadid=838081&start=0

I've bought everything from a camera to top rated tires and gift certificates to my favorite stores for my car with this deal.


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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:04 PM
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21. eBay's great. I've found a lot of bargains there.
The power sellers have taken over but most of these folks are small business owners too. Some of them buy overstock and last season merchandise from the big department stores and sell them on eBay. This works out for everyone. The dept stores get rid of the stuff they can't sell, which helps them stay in business. The eBay shop owner makes a living and some of them have expanded to the point where they hire employees. People who otherwise couldn't afford to shop at the big stores get to buy the same stuff at a fraction of the cost. And it also supports the US postal service (and UPS and FedEx).

I'm totally in favor of shopping on eBay. Selling not so much. It's hard to make money now because it has become a business for many of the sellers and the competition is stiff.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:14 PM
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22. My favorite auctions are book lots
We have a huge library thanks to ebay.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:19 PM
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25. Or if you can: Shop local independent businesses. NT
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:20 PM
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26. I bought most of my gifts on ebay the past 2 Christmases
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 09:21 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
I Love shopping on ebay!! Also last year I took my nieces and nephews for a day of downhill skiing as their gift. This year we all decided to cut our gift expenses in half. It's a little trickier now to find things the kids will like... hmmm - maybe take them cross country skiing - lol that's FREE.
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Revlon10 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:44 AM
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33. Now thats a really good Idea.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:49 AM
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34. Fuck Ebay
You do realize that they are big corporate America and the majority of the small mom/pop sellers have been run off by the larger sellers? You do realize that the fees that Ebay charges are astronomical? You do realize there is very little recourse if you get fucked over on Ebay anymore?
Shop local merchants. Shop craigslist. Shop your local want ads. Shop your local thrift stores.
Shopping Ebay does very little to help the small seller.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 07:58 AM
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36. thats not quite true..i am a small seller..ebay fees are difficult..
and their new rules are difficult..but I need to use their service...need cash..have lots of stuff which I no longer want or need...not garage sale stuff...there is just no other place to accomplish this...ebay makes a LOT of money on individual small sellers...sometimes I think I am just listing to keep ebay in business ...but still...it helps...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 08:43 AM
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37. I was one of the first Ebayers
Buying and selling was great.
I have had a store, have done sales, and have sold some large ticket items.
Ebay's policies are why THIS Ebayer does not do any business with them any longer.
Their policies shit on the seller.
The seller pays the listing fees.
The seller pays the selling fees.
The seller pays the Paypal fees.
Yet...they have taken away the right of the seller to leave negative feedback for deadbeat bidders.
Sorry--I think the seller endures the brunt of the worst of Ebay and only by boycotting them will it change the policies.
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 01:23 PM
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39. The sellers willing to work with ebay still need buyers
I look for the small sellers 'stay at home dads' and similar stores. It sucks that ebay takes so much for themselves, but they are still providing a service and there is still a great opportunity to turn stuff over, sell your stuff to purchase other stuff etc. So many businesses can no longer afford a storefront so they have moved to ebay. Many people are selling just to pass stuff on, not make a profit. It's not perfect but I love it.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 07:56 AM
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47. If you like to deal with small online sellers (or are one) ...
you might be interested in HOW Cafe. It's a small yet slowly growing cyber community board I run (after having sold off & on online for almost 10 years) that's geared towards online sellers/buyers (mostly "small" & "Mom&Pop" type sellers). B-)

The vast majority of sellers there sell antiques, collectibles and handcrafted items on eBay, Amazon, etsy, etc and believe strongly in giving excellent customer service, combine shipping and those who sell off eBay often take MOs and PayPal alternatives in addition to PayPal. Even Club99 (one of ebay's oldest selling groups that still does 99 cent NR auctions at least once a month) is based there and along with folks sig lines, we have widgets (affiliate type) to help direct folks to some of our sellers.

FWIW there are also some very nice (mostly handcrafted) items listed in HOWs new member marketplace. If there's something specific you're looking for.. you can even post a Wanted. :)
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:40 PM
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40. OmmmSweetOmmm has a cool shop
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 04:44 PM
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44. Shop etsy, too
www.etsy.com Handmade goods, many of them made custom... :D
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 05:06 AM
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46. I buy and sell on ebay quite a bit..
I've sold everything from tanning beds to motorcycles to telescope parts although my most common items are miniature antique and fantasy weapons that I make in my basement shop from exotic woods, sterling, bronze and brass, things like swords and battle axes.

For instance, this sterling and ebony battle axe is modeled on the one from the Frank Frazetta paintings of "The Death Dealer" for the Molly Hatchet album covers.




I buy and sell on Craigslist some but find that distance is a real problem, I live on the far edge of a major metro area and just about everyone with good stuff lives a considerable distance away. For buying it means you have to travel and if you're selling no one wants to drive that far.

Not to mention that CL is absolutely rife with scammers of one sort or another, I've literally had people send me $3,000 checks for a $100 item..





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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 01:46 PM
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49. My kid would love your stuff
Are you selling anything now, got a link?
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-08 08:00 AM
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48. This is a great thread. With what little shopping we can do we highly prefer to buy
Edited on Mon Dec-01-08 08:00 AM by WePurrsevere
from either folks we know, whether offline local or a version of cyber "local", or folks recommended by folks we know. :)

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