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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:02 PM
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Is Target any better than Wal-mart?
i don't go to Wal-mart and i only go to Target about twice a year.

Anybody know?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:04 PM
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1. They treat their employees much better
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:18 PM
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17. And Target contributes a lot of money to the communities it is in.
n/t
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:37 PM
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32. yes, they do
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:04 PM
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2. I'd rather a broken arm than a compound skull fracture any day of the week
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 09:05 PM by Posteritatis
Not being better than Walmart would take some terrible, terrible doing.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:05 PM
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3. This is purely anecdotal but from people I've talked to it seems that Target does treat
their employees much better. One of the people I talked to worked at both and liked Target quite a bit more.
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Dis Pater Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:05 PM
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4. In what way?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:06 PM
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6. in any way, do they import the same crap from China, do they offer the same pay
as Wal-mart?
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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:48 PM
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37. Target actually generally will pay LESS than wal-mart
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 10:48 PM by TwixVoy
nt
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:06 PM
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5. I believe it is...
I do shop there now and then, and they are unionized...I think.

They certainly don't use the same marketing practices that Wal-Mart does...

None of this door-busting stuff...

:shrug:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:07 PM
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9. i don't know about them being unionized, the local supermarket i shop at is union.
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 09:09 PM by chimpsrsmarter
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:12 PM
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12. Definitely not unionized
and the management culture is anti-union by order, top down.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:16 PM
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15. Thanks!
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HopeFor2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:13 PM
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13. Target is NOT unionized
In fact they are strongly anti-union. When they first went into the grocery business they tried a number of union busting tactics to bring in nonunion butchers but were unsuccessful. That is the reason all of their meats are prepackaged. They would rather thumb their noses at the union than to offer fresh cut meat to their customers.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:16 PM
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16. Thanks!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:21 PM
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20. I really hate that Target is undercutting the other grocery stores in the area
I know someone who works for them (slightly higher up the food chain there) and he says they don't make any money on the groceries. I worry that they will run the union shops in the area out of business.
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HopeFor2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:30 PM
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21. They need to be able to compete with the Super Walmarts
So they pay more for the prepackaged foods to avoid bending to the unions and then barely break even. And yes, they would not be opposed to busting the grocery unions.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:07 PM
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7. I've heard they treat employees better. I do know they have a different store placement strategy.
They aim for (sub)urban centers and not small towns with mom and pop at the expense.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:07 PM
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8. It's sure as hell cleaner and it smells better
and the aisles are wider and less cluttered.

All in all it's a better place to shop.

Wal Mart does carry ammunition and the old time Christmas candy nobody else seems to have so I go there a couple of times a year.

If it weren't for that I wouldn't go near the place.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:09 PM
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10. the wal-mart in my city is awful, i was in there about 6 years ago and it was filthy.
they were planning a new super walmart less then a mile from me but we the people banded together and got it stopped. The area was ridiculous, it's residential.
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HopeFor2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:10 PM
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11. It does treat employees better but is still very anti-union.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:13 PM
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14. Cooler stuff..
but more expensive.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:18 PM
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18. I thought they were union, but they're not, so
NO. They're absolutely no different. I've checked the products and they're all the same imports from third world sweat shops. The only reason I went to Target was that I thought they were union. So now I'll just go to the Fred Meyer and make sure I use the grocery checkers who I know are union.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:19 PM
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19. Better. Still anti-union. But, the owners are Democrats, I believe. (nt)
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HopeFor2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 09:33 PM
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22. It is a public company. It once was owned by Daytons hence the confusion.
Most of the Target officers are heavily republican.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:14 PM
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23. I rarely go there, but have found that they hardly ever have the merchandise in their ads.
If it's in their glossy flyer, don't bother... they will be out of it when you get there.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:17 PM
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24. i don't remember when and why i stopped going to Target, i think i just forgot about them.
plus i really detest shopping, i buy stuff online especially this time of the year because most of my family lives on the east coast and i do my food shopping at the actual supermarket that's about 2 miles from my house, the rest i get at Costco and Trader Joe's. I think i traded Target in for Costco.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:17 PM
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25. Says the person that "rarely" goes there.
Edited on Sat Nov-29-08 10:18 PM by Atman
So, actually, you really don't know. You're guessing, because as you stated, you rarely go there. You went there once and didn't have what you were looking for. Probably toward the end of the one-week sale period, I'd guess. If it was in the flyer, they'd give you a rain check.

Maybe you should stick to commenting on the stores you DO go to.

:shrug:

Just sayin.

.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:27 PM
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28. Have you ever heard the saying, "Never assume"?
:eyes:

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:44 PM
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35. Yes. And I also know what "rarely" means.
So, in this case, never say never.

.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:22 PM
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26. yup
target is better
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:26 PM
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27. in what ways, benefits, products?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:36 PM
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30. nothing that concrete
Walmart makes me want to die. I dislike, but can shop at Target. Not a fan of either, but I really am walmart adverse.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:33 PM
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29. I've been to both before
but I don't really shop at Walmart. The atmosphere in Target is more pleasant to me. The products in Target seem nicer to me as well. I've never bought anything other than paper towels at Walmart but I've walked through their clothes department and I'm not a fan. The clothes at Target are nice and I've bought a few shirts there before.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:37 PM
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31. yes.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:37 PM
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33. They don't play that infernal Christmas music, so there's one plus
Or so I'm told by a long-time employee.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:42 PM
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34. Their food prices are actually pretty good - almost as good as Walmart.
I'd dead broke, so I am forced to shop at Walmart and I've noticed Target's food prices are almost as good, sometimes just as good. As for other merchandise other than staples, I wouldn't know.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 10:47 PM
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36. I think so.
I shop there a few times a year...but never shop at Walmart. The stores seem clean and well managed and employees are pleasant.

One thing I've noticed in the store nearest me, some Muslim women employees wear a shiny red Target hijab or headdress. I think that's rather cool.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 11:49 PM
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38. a much cleaner environment
and better quality merchandise
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 11:53 PM
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39. Their merchandise and environment are a bit more aesthetically pleasing
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DAMANgoldberg Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 11:59 PM
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40. as a OTR trucker...
the answer is no. Say what you will about Wal-Mart, but at least I am able to park my 18 wheeler at a lot more Super Wallys than Super Targets. Super Wallys are 24 hrs mostly, Super Targets close at 11P. Super Wally has Truck motor oil, Antifreeze, Howe's and PowerService, etc that is cheaper than the Truck Stops and as long as you respect the lot, you can get your DOT-mandated 10 yr break in there.

as for deliveries to Distribution Centers, they are about the same with policies, on-site parking (NYET), lumpers (NYET), etc.

lake park ga (lowdnes co)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:29 AM
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41. Target has better stuff and is cleaner while Walmart always looks dirty and messy
and the products crappy.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:34 AM
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42. Yes, because
Target doesn't have the market power that Walmart does. Walmart uses that power to force more suppliers to manufacture their products in cheap labor markets instead of the US. Target is guilty of buying those cheap products from China too, but they aren't responsible for pushing so many of those jobs overseas like Walmart did. Walmart has put a lot of people who had good paying union jobs out of work.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 02:46 AM
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43. I don't know about Target, but I used to work at Walmart, I was paid
well (much better than when I worked at Meijer,a union shop in name only)I was treated well, and I liked my job. So for what it's worth my Walmart experience was a very good one.
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