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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:08 PM
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My thoughts about Chambliss and Georgia
I have got nothing to say.

The Senator does reflect well on the majority of people living in Georgia.
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jjanpundt Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:12 PM
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1. I lived for 10 years in Atlanta (late 70s early 80s) and find it hard
to believe that the people have changed so much that someone like Chambliss can get elected. It just boggles my mind.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:13 PM
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2. A lot of the state is populated with people who are...
...absolutely nothing like the people in Atlanta.

Nothing's changed.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:15 PM
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3. Not really.
Given a more well known Democrat (no knocks against Martin, he was a wonderful candidate) and no threat of a supermajority, Chambliss would have lost. Many, many people I know voted for Obama and Martin the first time but voted for Chambliss in the run-off to prevent a supermajority.

And no, those people aren't crazy. They're just centrists or right of center.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:17 PM
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5. thanks to msm scaring people with bullcrap about
supermajority....
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:19 PM
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7. I look at it this way: I got every toy I wanted for Christmas but
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 10:29 PM by MJDuncan1982
batteries were not included (and my parents forgot to get some and all the stores are closed).

Big picture, folks.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:24 PM
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12. it wasn't just the MSM - Chambliss played that mantra well
over the last week I had daily robo-calls about the evils of allowing a *democrat* supermajority.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:20 PM
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8. Well shit
...if they are centrists or right of center, they ARE crazy. They want more of the same mess we are in? Then they are bat shit crazy, and anyone who sticks up for them must be getting crazy too.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:22 PM
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9. They don't want more of the same. They just want slightly less of a change.
Hmm...have you seen my crazy hat...?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:35 PM
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14. Were you sticking up for them?
...if you were then I'd have to wonder. But you weren't, right?

Thing is, they don't have a fucking clue.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:01 PM
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24. Yes, I was. I may not agree with their reasons but their reasons are not batshit crazy. nt.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:43 PM
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25. Oh, yes they are
What is it about them voting for republicans that is reasonable? Is it that we don't need dems running the show? That we need more republicans and all their bs? What the fuck reason is it that makes them not bat shit crazy that you have to stand up for them?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:16 PM
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4. STOLEN
take it easy on the people of Georgia
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:18 PM
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6. any proof?
atlanta is the only decent place there. the rest are die hard rethugs.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:23 PM
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10. just precedent--Chambliss stole the last one
and you know proof is hard to come by in the vote counting game.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/-100-000-Reward-FOR-INFORM-by-Velvet-Revolution-081117-757.html
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:34 PM
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13. why didn't he just steal it back in November?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:10 PM
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16. Maybe he thought he did?
But the turnout for Obama snowed him?

Truth is, he didn't do much. What very well could have happened and probably did is that the unaccountable voting machine workers who programmed the machines are the thieves. But you knew that, right?
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:53 PM
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22. Obama lawyers were VERY busy here both before the election
and on election day. Trust me, they tried and they accomplished much voter disenfrachisement. And the long 8 hour lines? And the police at polling places? We had problems here, it's just that no one covered it because everyone was preoccupied with the win. GA was the Florida and Ohio of 2008. It will all come out in time, I hope. But I'm grateful for the big picture win. MORE than grateful. This is a bummer, but it can be sucked up.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:17 PM
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17. I have no idea. However, no doubt they expected to win back in November
so didn't bother. In the meantime, Georgians and others got rich in a flurry of Republican runoff spending, and Chambliss wins by HUGE margin not predicted by the earlier near 50/50 results. I'm no statistician, but what are the odds of that?

Who knows? I'm cynical, and just guessing, but Georgia has a history with Diebold and they still use the machines, now called Premier.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:43 PM
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19. Why?
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:46 PM
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20. THANK YOU
not to mention the 200,00 purged voters by SOS Karen Handel even though she was ordered not to do it.

And no, if you look at the map, Atlanta is not the ONLY place that voted Dem. There are actually many blue counties here. I live in one of them.

Diebold, the gift that keeps on giving.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:23 PM
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11. incumbents are hard to beat
especially when their party is a majority of the state by a decent margin. I thought low turnout might help us because GOTV would swing it our way.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:03 PM
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15. The Devil went down to Georgia..
and he said "Goddammit, there's a lot of assholes here!" and he went back to Hell where the summers are cooler.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:17 PM
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18. Now we all did what we could do


sorry it wasnt enough.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:50 PM
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21. yeah, we did.
We made history here registering new democratic voters. 400,000 in a year. 200,000 of which were later purged...but hey, it's all fair, right?

And then we had the Spoonamore episode with the Deibolds that weren't certified in the previous Chambliss win. Thank goodness for whistle blowers who turned those machines in that had been tampered with after being certified.

Perhaps the Sugary Refinery business will blow up in his face. He deserves it for not caring about all of the deaths and people who were injured and trying to stop the whistle blower from telling about the safety problems.
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mymessageboardid Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 11:57 PM
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23. Where was the granddaughter??
I saw the grandson at the victory speech, but not the girl. Is she in therapy already from the groping that "big daddy" laid on her?
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