originalpckelly
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:29 PM
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There is no honest reason that Karl Rove and friends can't testify under oath in a closed hearing... |
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Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 05:38 PM by originalpckelly
to avoid any sort of press attention that would come.
They could also stipulate that Mr. Rove and friends would only testify about this matter and if the Congress dove into other areas that they would then claim executive privilege.
They aren't doing this simply to avoid a political cost, they also don't want these individuals under oath and with a transcript.
It's very suspicious.
****I want to make clear that I do not support this. I'm trying to point out that what they are asking for is very suspicious and doesn't jibe with what they said publicly.
I really would like an open hearing on this, but I know they don't want one. What's suspicious here is that they don't want to be under oath or to have a transcript. That says something. That's a clue.****
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:30 PM
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that is what is needed at this point.
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:33 PM
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3. While I agree with you, I'm trying to point out that if they simply wanted to... |
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avoid the appearance of a show trial, they could have sought a closed hearing.
But they didn't just do that, they wanted a select group of people to meet with them without being under oath and without a transcript of the meeting.
That's very suspicious and might indicate that they aren't simply avoiding a "political fishing expedition", but are also trying to avoid a legal problem.
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Tue Mar-20-07 08:37 PM
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21. Damn right it's suspicious. They should be forced to testify under oath, |
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after all we pay their damn salaries and we are the boss!
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:31 PM
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2. I could live with a closed session if they're under oath AND transcripts |
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:33 PM
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5. Yes, and so would the Senators, but that's not what they wanted... |
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and that's a very important clue. It might very well show they are avoiding any legally binding statements.
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:43 PM
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9. AH...well, sure. I guess I figured that was glaringly obvious and thought you were |
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going off in a different direction. :D
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:46 PM
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11. I'm just trying to make sure everyone sees this stuff about politics... |
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being the only reason they don't want a transcript and testimony under oath is a bunch bullshit.
I even hope the freepers see this for what it is. I don't know though, their heads are so far up the Administration's collective ass they may not be able to see anything clearly anymore.
I'm really starting to think this is more than a mere "overblown personnel matter."
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:58 PM
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As for any hope the freepers will ever see the light of day...I won't hold my breath.
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:33 PM
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4. No they need to be accountable in Open and American |
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people have the right to know
Bush is manipulating Congress and its time for Congress to DEMAND and they have the Right to demand
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:35 PM
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7. I don't think you understand what I'm saying here. I want the information... |
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I want to know, and I want a public hearing.
I'm talking about what the Administration wanted, and how that might offer some clues.
They didn't want to be under oath or even for there to be a transcript. That's highly suspicious and shows they are simply avoiding politics, but possibly avoiding leaving behind evidence for a possible legal action at some future date.
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:35 PM
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6. No.........in the open.for America to hear |
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........Like the GOP'ers said about bush's wire taps
"If you have nothing to hide...whats the problem?" rover and Harriet have....Uuuuh...issues with the truth apparently.
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:38 PM
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8. I know, I tried to clear up the confusion about what I said by editing the OP. |
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:46 PM
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10. Why closed? Who is Karl Rove, after all? |
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Edited on Tue Mar-20-07 05:47 PM by WinkyDink
Of COURSE, it's suspicious! Or, rather, amazingly obvious!
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originalpckelly
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:48 PM
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12. They're making the charge that this is political... |
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and the logical conclusion of things that one would want if one really believed that would be a closed hearing limited to the topic of the firings and nothing else.
They didn't just want that, they wanted no hearing (even behind closed doors). They wanted no taking of oaths. No transcripts.
That's just not what you'd want from the perspective of someone solely avoiding politics, it's the stuff someone who's committed a crime wants.
I hope you see.
I don't want that, I'm trying to put myself in their position.
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Tue Mar-20-07 07:58 PM
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17. Their defense is executive privilege BS |
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Like this would weaken the president becuz he could never relax and talk to his staff for fear of subpoenas but this is not about that, this is about conversations his staff had with the Department of Justice, when they were clearly involved in influencing appointments, they over reached not the American People, and I fail to see how executive privilege can be used as a multipurpose cloak for all misdeeds.
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:51 PM
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13. It has to be public and under oath because.... |
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THEY LIE! Oh yeah...that is the reason they do not want to be under oath. That, of course is clear to everyone in the whole country...and the world.
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Tue Mar-20-07 05:56 PM
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14. the judge or the court reporter gives the oath in court. No bible needed. |
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I assume a Congressman could give the oath.
Then they'll all take the Fifth and be in deep doo doo.
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Tue Mar-20-07 06:31 PM
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16. they know they're dirty and they're just covering their asses |
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Tue Mar-20-07 08:24 PM
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18. Exactly, and about a million dishonest reasons not to testify |
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Tue Mar-20-07 08:27 PM
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19. Protect Karl Rove at all costs! |
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Tue Mar-20-07 08:27 PM
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20. Only one...they honestly don't want to do it. |
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Tue Mar-20-07 09:24 PM
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22. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? It is still an appropriate question. nt |
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Tue Mar-20-07 09:25 PM
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23. Anytime they play this "no need for an oath" B.S. you *know* they're hiding a ton of shit. |
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Tue Mar-20-07 09:27 PM
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24. Can't use rove and honest in the same sentence or artical |
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Tue Mar-20-07 09:32 PM
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25. Sorry, but in open court, with reporters and transcripts, under oath |
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This is America damnit, where matters are supposed to be open to the people, not behind closed doors, secreted away.
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Tue Mar-20-07 09:38 PM
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26. Yes there is. He is incapable of telling the truth. |
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