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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:14 AM Original message |
Feds Charge Blagojevich Tried To Sell Obama's Senate Seat |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. They went to his home, handcuffed him and arrested him |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. He's been under investigation for 3 years, yet tried to pull this? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. and they did it because they're BUSHIES! |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Knee-jerk, lazy thinking. |
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johnfunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. No, they did it because Blago's crooked enough to BE a Bushie |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
2. So now what? Who chooses Obama's successor? nt |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I have no idea; maybe his replacement? I wouldn't trust him with any |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Just checked and - thank heavens - the Lt. Gov. is a Democrat. nt |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
35. pheeeew.. thanks.. i was panicky thinking a repub will |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Good Question...Blago's A Black Hole |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Lt. gov Pat Quinn makes the chioce if G Rod is convicted |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
4. Good lord - but I can't say I am surprised |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. It's Pretty Embarassing |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
6. Is this the guy that just won the election or what? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. No. Here's wiki: |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. THANKS. but didnt' someone else won that seat and will |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No. He is/was the sitting governor. That's why he was supposed to |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. ohhh ok.. maybe i am confusing it with DE new Governor.. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. All statewide officeholders in IL are Democrats. nt |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #27 |
63. dick durbin just won RE-election to HIS senate seat in november... |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
7. He's a real scum bag. |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. I just saw the story in the NY Times |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. He was just arrested this a.m. nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
9. We're talking about the Bush administration, and the GOP, running Justice. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Thanks for that dose of reality. I guess we'll see as this unfolds. nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
49. He may turn out to be guilty, but this is the Bush admin that is trying to game the legal system. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Don't Know About That, T.O. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Were Seigelman and Spitzer targeted and prosecuted for political reasons? |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I Don't Have The Same Sense Of Omnipotence About. . . |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Let's address Spitzer. Do you really think they investigated him over $5000 cash?! |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. We Agree On Parts. Just Not On The Whole |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. As I've said, he may be guilty. But I'll believe it when Obama's Justice pursues it. |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. this SMELLS like a RAT! |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. The Rats Might Just Live In The Governor's Mansion |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. It does. He may be a rat, but until there's a trial, I'll believe he's innocent. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Theyhave him on tape. Innocence is not something that applies here... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
71. That's wrong. Innocence is presumed, with or without tape. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Innocence until proven guilty is a constraint placed on the state, not you and me |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. No, this doesn't "smell a lot like that." |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Yes it does. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Ah, *my* ignorance is the problem here? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. some things speak for themselves |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Bullshit. You are talking out of your ass. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. I'll speak to the intelligent posters, as that is my intent, anyway. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. You are talking out of your ass about Blago's arrest. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. I don't talk to the grossly uninformed more than a few times. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. You clearly haven't bothered to find out the facts of this case, and now you're running away. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Read BEFORE you post, not after, or even during. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
91. How Embarrassing For You. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
13. BRAKING NEWS!!! (see clip) |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
74. tehe BUSTED |
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johnfunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
96. Is that a picture of Brak Obama? |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. !!! |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
14. MSNBC;The Department of Justice alleges that in exchange for the Senate appointment, Blagojevich dis |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. His chutpah is astounding. He actually thought he wouldn't get caught?! nt |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. A little re-write... |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #29 |
69. if only.... n/t |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yes, He's Not Only Stupid, He's Arrogant |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
19. I smell a Mukasey charge ala Siegelman |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Don't |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
46. Your sense of smell isn't accurate in this case. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. Yes, of course. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
21. Total dumbass. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
24. There would have to be other STUPID people. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
30. There is no rat, Blagojevich seems to be thoroughly corrupt and Fitzgerald is a a good guy |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. As I said, I don't doubt he deserves it. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. How is this timing "convenient?" |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
55. It's convenient in our favor |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
78. My initial thought was that it's convenient for B of A, not the Bushies |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
83. Yes, as you note, the timing is key for the political implications. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. And the timing of this particular indictment is actually beneficial for Democrats. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
33. Thank GAWD! |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
34. A FEDERAL Charge? |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. "I bet if you go searching, you *ill find Bush/Cheney behind these charges." |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
75. I'm from Illinois |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
36. If he is proven guilty, which I expect, I hope he spends a lot of time |
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oldbolshevik (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
38. Another FALSE Progressive Enemy of the Worker |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
41. Where is the line? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. There is no doubt in any person's mind here in Illinois that Blago did it |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. About fifty steps behind Blago, that's where. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
42. So Contessa Brewer actually asked if this investigation taints |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Grasping at straws? Why would she even think that? nt |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Exactly! In her sweetest |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
61. She obviously hadn't read the part where Team Obama told him in effect to go pound sand... |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
48. This is dumb as the charges that Obama wasn't born in the USA |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Are you serious? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
66. ???? Blago is a complete and utter scumbag. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
80. The guy is guilty; Patrick Fitzgerald is up explaining it now. It's not the same. nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
81. Well, it's certainly run by the same people. |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
87. And all the tapes they have with Blago |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. So, you've heard the tapes, authenticated them, determined context, etc. ?! |
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prolesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Believe what you want |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. I believe what the evidence reveals, not what some prosecutor says. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Yet you know nothing about this case, and haven't bothered to even learn. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
50. LOL, if it ain't nailed down, I guess it's for sale. |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. G Rod was trying to give our struggling economy a boost |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
85. Was it a pre-Xmas sale? We're well-heeled lobbyists part of the deal? |
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