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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:20 AM Original message |
Conspiracy or Coincidence? Blagojevich arrest |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. I had the same thought but then again |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Blago pulled the BoA stunt because he was drumming up public support |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's a covert message to us PEONS that the system is rigged and Corporations RULE. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Chicago pols do this all the time. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Thanks, I'll take this information and do a little research. |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. They learned from Al Capone |
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trollybob (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. No, it's the U.S. Attorney. There's already over a million people in prison |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. No, it isn't. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. Here's an OVERT message to you that you're full of crap nt |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. conspiracy.. Cheney, paulson are involved in this |
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Ike23 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. No Conspiracy |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Why not now? Would just before the election have been better? |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Because THEN the timing would be suspicious too (n/m) |
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Decider (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Seems this country no longer knows anything |
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trollybob (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. There isn't a public official alive that I couldn't get indicted |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Really? I'm not sure you know how federal charges really work. |
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trollybob (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I'm sorry, as a former Illinois prosecutor, I think I know how it works |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Then you should know that the federal system isn't as...shall we say...permissive as the state |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Coincidence |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Not a coincidence. Blago knew the feds were thisclose to arresting him |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. More likely that he was very close to finishing the auction of PE Obama's Senate seat. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. This is no surprise but then neither is the fact that CNN is barely covering the sit-in |
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trollybob (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Hey FOX News is probably already discussing which prison |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
9. Rod suspends Biz with BOA Yesterday and is arrested today |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Blago is the opposite of Spitzer. Blago is corruption through and through |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. agree withthat -but the timing is still interesting |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. The rumors about Blago being secretly taped were spreading around last week |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Daley (some Aldermen) were considereing suspending biz with BOA also |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Everyone knew the death penalty suspension was just a Ryan stunt |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
10. no coincidence |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Don't Be Overly Sure |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. It certainly sounds like his arrest was justified. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Well, That May Be |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. So the feds assembled and filed this complaint on less than 24 hours notice? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. who knows? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. With months of taped conversations? nt |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. I've already said he's likely guilty. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I'd bet he was trying to keep Blago from actually selling the seat, |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:09 PM Original message |
I know that such a thing would be next to impossible, given the scope and depth of the complaint |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. they may have drawn up the complaint at any time during the three-year investigation. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. So they had it in the barrel ready to file, and waited until today because? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I hope it was because they wanted to stop the process before he actually appointed someone |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. If you think that about Fitzgerald, I don't think you have a reasonable opinion |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. the feeling is mutual. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Dupe. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Dupe |
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happychatter (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
12. Well we know that Bush's and Rove's WhiteHouse would NEVER target a Democratic Governor |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. You think Patrick Fitzgerald is a Bush toadie? The guy who put away Scooter Libby? |
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trollybob (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
36. No, but he could have the Pope indicted if he wanted to, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. So you think he made up his entire case? |
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happychatter (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. the fact is he let libby get away with taking the fall for Cheney AND Bush |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. *hen Bush/Cheney Is Involved, NOTHING Is |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
17. Your train of reasoning skipped over that "three year investigation part." Blago is scum. nt |
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jules (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
24. Neither |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
25. I think the real threat is the people who insist on defending the asshole |
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camera obscura (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
35. This is less a set up and more one inept guy getting caught what most people do more smoothly |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
37. Neither conspiracy nor coincidence. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
38. From what I'm hearing... He tried to gain support by rousting BofA |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
40. blago is a COMPLETE scumbag. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
55. Answer one simple question, please |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-09-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
57. Blago wanted to sell the senate seat. |
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