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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:54 AM Original message |
Toyota sales down 33.9% in November - UAW's fault? |
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ogneopasno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. But but but! They build such great cars that EVERYONE wants to buy! BUT! |
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Crazy Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. True, but we can't afford them |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Unless you buy a rental return... |
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Crazy Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. The only difference is... |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. The question is how come Toyota and more so Honda are able to weather this storm |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The answer is that there is more than one way a government can help out an auto industry |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I don't disagree with that, or with the fact that our trade policies are messed up |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. The yen was 350 to the dollar in the 80s, v. |
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Crazy Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Someone on Keith Olbermann the other night said... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. GM sells lots of cars abroad. |
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Crazy Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. It's wrong to use the bail out money to do so |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. lay offs |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The point is which car companies overproduced? Fuel prices were steadily increasing |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Actually gas prices have been going down |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Now they are coming down, but since 2000 they were steadily increasing. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Problem is there is no way to predict the price of gas |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I agree, that is why you diversify you car lines so you can easily decrease production of one |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. seven years of increasing prices isn't enough time? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Last I checked gas was about the same price as it was 7 years ago |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. yes, since the price started crashing about the time real estate did. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Uh, no |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
8. I think it's just because people don't have money to buy new cars |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. Yup. It's the same story for over 50 years. When the economy catches a cold ... |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. Toyota sales down 33.9% in November |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
16. curious... |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I don't buy used cars so I don't keep track of such stuff |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Don, "lease turn-backs" don't fit into your categories. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. A lease vehicle can be anything |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Cars don't have speedometer cables anymore. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
18. So why are they not in need of a bail out or they will go bankrupt? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Post 6 explains it well |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Toyota exec seeks 40 billion euro loan from EU |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
24. Notice all the experts on worker pay and what CEOs should do aren't posting here? |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
26. So nobody is buying cars, whether foreign or domestic |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. I wonder if you are very young? |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. 51, thanks. And no, you haven't seen another downturn quite like the present one |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. They build cars no one wants. Plus, their union workers are bleeding them dry. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. Man. I bet that's why they've only got a AA credit rating. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
36. Toyota just makes shitty cars. OH WAIT... |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
37. Fie to you and your independent variables! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
40. The Agenda Against the UAW is Disgusting |
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