Honda killed the Electric Car

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Regarding "Who killed the electric car".

So far I've seen no exceptions to the rule that everyone on DU will use that video to blame GM for the murder, but even the film makers themselves blame EVERYBODY involved except the batteries:

Part 9 of 10 on Youtube:

Car companies: Guilty
Oil companies: Guilty
Batteries: Not guilty
C.A.R.B: Guilty
Consumers: Guilty
Government: Guilty
Hydrogen Fuel Cell: Guilty

In the film, Honda scrapped all their EV's too, but I have yet to see anyone blame Honda for killing the electric car.

If you're so inclined, watch the film again with that in mind. The film concentrated specifically on GM but spread the accusations evenly.

[Ichingcarpenter]

1. Cough, Cough.... gullible shit... cough cough

Sorry but you are reaching and the gulls can't even fly that high.

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3. Do not pass go

Go directly to part 9 of 10

[hlthe2b]

2. Toyota had EV RAV4s, but I don't recall Honda having an EV

Can you please provide some documentation of what you are saying?


They had the hybrid Insight, but I don't recall an EV.

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4. Youtube

Part 9 of 10

[hlthe2b]

6. Part 9 of 10 of what YouTube?

I saw the documentary (Who Killed the Electric Car) in its entirety. What is the You Tube you are referring to? :shrug:

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8. The whole thing is on Youtube

Enter "Who killed the Electric Car"

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5. I'm sorry

The Honda crushings are in part 5 of 10

[TreasonousBastard]

7. And don't forget the Ford guy who...

whittled the list of thousands of interested electric car buyers down to 40 when they saw what it would be and what it would cast.

(Toyota dropped an electric car at the same time, too, and no major car manufacturer anywhere in the world has come up with another design, but that's all GM's fault)

[anigbrowl]

9. Honda haven't been asking for rescue capital though

So I understand why people are singling out GM.

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10. True

But this is not in regard to the bailout.

[anigbrowl]

15. Oh, you're one of those big picture types

Well if you think I'm gonna look beyond my own nose, you're mistaken! I'll be as short-sighted as I damn well please :-)

[alfredo]

11. Leave the Japanese to deal with Honda, GM is a domestic maker, we

have every right to push them to innovate.

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13. I'm simply addressing the content of the film

and the summary indictment of GM from all those who have reported watching it. That is all.

[alfredo]

17. That's true. I just believe GM and others have been too cautious, too

conservative and have been left in the dust.

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12. Toyota killed the electric car, too

Part 5 of 10 is quite illuminating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BMJ9U3TMg4&feature=related

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. Cheap oil has killed the alternatives every time & they are going to

do it again.

[sce56]

16. Well lets just go to the Air Car! With airing stations it would be a great way to travel

http://zeropollutionmotors.us /

Pure Driving: The Revolutionary Compressed Air Vehicle

If you can, imagine a vehicle that runs on air, achieves over 100 gas-equivalent mpg and over 90 mph, has zero to low C02 emissions, seats six, has plenty of space for luggage, cuts no safety corners, and costs no more than an average economy to mid-size vehicle.

This is the expected performance of the revolutionary compressed air vehicle that Zero Pollution Motors (ZPM) is introducing to North America. The vehicle is powered by the Compressed Air Engine (CAE) developed by Motor Development International (MDI), a 15-year old company based in Nice, France, and headed by inventor and Formula One race car engineer, Guy Negre. ZPM is the exclusive representative for MDI in the United States.


six seater orange six seater green

Meet the Air Vehicle Family

MDI has announced the model names it will use on its market models. The overall car brand will be the FlowAIR. The existing protytypes will retain their first names to now become the


One FlowAIR, Mini FlowAIR, and City FlowAIR. The urban public transportation concept vehicles will be know as the Multi FlowAIR.

Competitive Price

We estimate the cost of purchasing a six-seater, 75hp Air Car will be approximately $17,800, proving that buying “green” doesn’t have to cost more. Not only is the price amazingly affordable, but it will cost you up to five times less in fuel consumption than an equivalent gasoline powered car. The Air Car is a totally new breed of cars entirely conceived to achieve low prices:

Ingenious design. The car’s modular, advanced materials and manufacturing techniques simplify manufacture.

[dysfunctional press]

18. chevron-texaco drove a stake through the heart of the electric car...

Whether or not Toyota wanted to continue production, it was unlikely to be able to do so, because the EV-95 battery was no longer available. Chevron had inherited control of the worldwide patent rights for the NiMH EV-95 battery when it merged with Texaco, which had purchased them from General Motors. Chevron's unit won a $30,000,000 settlement from Toyota and Panasonic, and the production line for the large NiMH batteries was closed down and dismantled. This case was settled in the ICC International Court of Arbitration, and not publicised due to a gag order placed on all parties involved.<1><2> Only smaller NiMH batteries, incapable of powering an electric vehicle or plugging in, are currently allowed by Chevron-Texaco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_RAV4_EV