Time to update the list. Hatfield, Baxter, Carnahan, Wellstone, JFK Jr...

[Jackpine Radical]

C'mon, everybody. Refresh my memory.

[shadowknows69]

1. Cue several members telling you you're nuts.

I'm not one of them.

[bitchkitty]

2. There is no list any more.

I took it down. The important bodies are the bodies of innocent Iraqis, indigent prisoners, and Americans who died or will die as a result of Bush policies.

I've still got the domain, though - bushbodycount.com - it's just not active.

[stillcool]

3. Steve Kangas, David Kelly

[Time for change]

4. Here are some

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5495235&mesg_id=5495235

[Jackpine Radical]

13. Thanks for that.

Yeah, statistical post hoc-ery is a bitch. However, I see no need to limit the inquiry to alleged suicides.What about dubious accidents as well?

[Time for change]

14. My list is very incomplete

It was restricted to the short period that Bush had been president as of that time. But it didn't even include the deaths of 9/11 or of the Iraq War or of some of the thousands of detaines who have been stripped of all human rights. And I don't doubt that there are a lot more too.

[madokie]

5. It will be a long list no doubt

is there any way to compare these with the people from across the aisle who have died suspicious deaths? Are there any from the other side at all? I can't come up with a name.

[jgraz]

6. Margie Schoedinger

[bottomtheweaver]

22. Mary Jo Kopechne

They didn't count on Teddy being able to swim while drugged. :shrug:

[shadowknows69]

7. Wow, we must all be on some ignore lists

If no one has hijacked this thread yet with their anti-tin foil powers.

[cali]

8. not a shred more evidence exists that Wellstone was killed

than exists linking the Clintons to Vince Foster's suicide. And it's patently absurd to suggest that JFK Jr was murdered. I don't know enough about the others to have an opinion.

[shadowknows69]

9. There she is!!!

What took you so long darlin? :hi:

[cali]

10. yep. I'm just one of those nutty people who prefers evidence

to tinfoil.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

11. What evidence do you have to support this statement?

"it's patently absurd to suggest that JFK Jr was murdered"

Thanks!

[cali]

12. The NTSB investigation

not to mention the fact that he was an inexperienced pilot.

[shadowknows69]

16. I personally don't put JFK Jr. on the "list"

But I do believe Wellstone was a hit.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

29. Is NTSB anything like the 9/11 or Warren Commission?

I haven't researched issues surrounding JFK Jr's death, so don't have an educated opinion.

[earth mom]

15. Wrong. I know someone who lives near where JFK Jr.'s plane went down.

It was a clear night, but they reported it as a low visibility or cloudy night. * & Co had a vested interest in seeing JFK Jr. gone. :tinfoilhat:

[shadowknows69]

17. I did not know that. I may have to change my earlier statement

[cali]

18. why not read the NTSB report?

See that's a big part of the problem here: you'd prefer to believe some casual statement from a poster on an internet site who say's "a friend told me" and provides NO evidence, than to bestir yourself to read the report.

[shadowknows69]

21. People who write reports can be bribed and threatened

So that makes, to me, their testimony as dubious as "a friend told me". I never said my paranoia was healthy, but it's how I'm wired.

[Bucky]

19. A name added to that list just yesterday: Michael Connell (Larissa Alexandrovna source)

One of my sources died in a plane crash last night

I don't usually reveal sources, but I think this is incredibly important. Michael Connell died in a plane crash last night. He was a key witness in the Ohio election fraud case that I have been reporting on. More importantly, however, he had information that he was ready to share.

You see, Mike Connell set-up the alternate email and communications system for the White House. He was responsible for creating the system that hosted the infamous GWB43.com accounts that Karl Rove and others used. When asked by Congress to provide these emails, the White House said that they were destroyed. But in reality, what Connell is alleged to have done is move these files to other servers after having allegedly scrubbed the files from all "known" Karl Rove accounts.

In addition, I have reason to believe that the alternate accounts were used to communicate with US Attorneys involved in political prosecutions, like that of Don Siegelman. This is what I have been working on to prove for over a year. In fact, it was through following the Siegelman-Rove trail that I found evidence leading to Connell. That is how I became aware of him. Mike was getting ready to talk. He was frightened.

He has flown his private plane for years without incident. I know he was going to DC last night, but I don't know why. He apparently ran out of gas, something I find hard to believe. I am not saying that this was a hit nor am I resigned to this being simply an accident either. I am no expert on aviation and cannot provide an opinion on the matter. What I am saying, however, is that given the context, this event needs to be examined carefully. If you want to understand the context more broadly, I suggest you read this article I did a while back about the break-ins and arson cases that Siegelman and others have experienced.

Just to be very clear and state again, I am not claiming conspiracy theory or direct relation to Karl Rove or the White House in any of these events. What I am saying, however, is that these possible relationships cannot and should not be overlooked by investigators. There are far too many serious and reasonable questions that must be answered for the public.

I have been to Mr. Connell's home. Mr. Connell has confided that he was being threatened, something that his attorneys also told the judge in the Ohio election fraud case. When I met with Heather, his wife, I did so carefully because of the threats he was getting.

I left a note for her in her mailbox and asked her to meet me in a local park near their home. Heather came and through our conversation I got the sense that these were not bad people or corrupt people. The Connell's really believed that what they were involved in served God's plan. Regardless of of what any of us think about their religious views or allegations relating to Connell's involvement in various things, I do think these were good people who got caught up in something bigger than themselves. My heart goes out to Heather and the children.

[Bucky]

23. More on Mike Connell (may he rest in peace)

Ohio Attorneys Seek Protection for Mike Connell and his Family against Alleged Threats from Karl Rove
Posted Thu, 07/24/2008

Sources close to the Ohio Corrupt Practices Act/RICO claim sent us a copy of the following letter that asks Attorney General Mukasey for protection for Michael Connell and his family who have been allegedly threatened by Karl Rove. Rove is believed to be the strategic mastermind behind the Bush 2004 re-election campaign and the possible Ohio election improprieties. The alleged threats appear to be the result of the re-opening, through the Ohio Corrupt Practices Act/RICO claim, of the stalled investigation into the 2004 Ohio Elections.

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:50:55 EDT
Subject: Report of Rove threats against witness Michael Connell

Dear Attorney General Mukasey:
We have been confidentially informed by a source we believe to be credible that Karl Rove has threatened Michael Connell, a principal witness we have identified in our King Lincoln case in federal court in Columbus, Ohio, that if he does not agree to "take the fall" for election fraud in Ohio, his wife Heather will be prosecuted for supposed lobby law violations. This appears to be in response to our designation of Rove as the principal perpetrator in the Ohio Corrupt Practices Act/RICO claim with respect to which we issued document hold notices last Thursday to you and to the US Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform. See: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6189 and http://www.archive.org/details/ElectionFraudInOhioCourtCase.

I have informed court chambers and am in the process of informing the Ohio Attorney General's and US Attorney's offices in Columbus for the purpose, among other things, of seeking protection for Mr. Connell and his family from this reported attempt to intimidate a witness. Concurrently herewith, I am informing Mr. Conyers and Mr. Kucinich in connection with their Congressional oversight responsibilities related to these matters. Because of the serious engagement in this matter that began in 2000 of the Ohio Statehouse Press Corps, 60 Minutes, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, C-Span and Jim VandeHei, and the public's right to know of gross attempts to subvert the rule of law, I am forwarding this information to them, as well. Cliff Arnebeck, Attorney 614-224-8771 Cell 614-361-9434 cc: Robert Fitrakis, Esq. Henry Eckhart, Esq

I'm ready for my tin foil close up, Mr DeMille...


from SoureWatch.org

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mike_Connell

Michael (Mike) L. Connell is President, Chief Political Strategist and CEO of New Media Communications, Inc., a Republican website development and internet services firm based in Richfield, OH.

New Media's GOP clients are a "'Who's Who' of Republican politics", having provided campaign web services and Internet strategy for Bush-Cheney 2000/2004, as well as Dick Armey, Spencer Abraham for Senate 2000, Heather Wilson for Congress 2000/2002/2004, Rick Santorum for Senate 2000/2006, and John Thune for Senate 2002/2004 to name just a few. New Media also designed GOP.com for the Republican National Committee, RGA.org for the Republican Governors Association, and between two and three dozen state GOP sites.

In April 2001, Connell spun-off GovTech Solutions from New Media to handle its growing list of federal government clients, such as MajorityWhip.gov for Tom DeLay and Johnny Isakson. Business filings in the state of Ohio show that Govtech's founding members were Connell's wife Heather, and the well-known GOP operative and Chairman of the DCI Group, Thomas J. Synhorst. By 2004, Govtech's clients would grow to include more than 20 members of the U.S. House of Representatives, GOP.gov, the web site of the House Republican Conference, and the House Intelligence, Judiciary, Financial Services, Way and Means, and Administration committees. The latter was acquired while House Administration was chaired by former-U.S. Rep. Bob Ney of Ohio, who was convicted in 2006 of conspiracy to defraud the United States.

[Jackpine Radical]

27. That's the one that occasioned this thread, although I now see

that I actually omitted him from my initial list. I posted this thread in response to Lala's piece.

[Swamp Rat]

20. k&r

[bottomtheweaver]

24. John Heinz

[burythehatchet]

25. Why you crazy left wing moonbat conspiracy theorist fool

coinkidinks, all coinkidinks.

[Jackpine Radical]

28. Guilty as charged.

"crazy left wing moonbat conspiracy theorist fool"

[dixiegrrrrl]

26. try this site

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bush_body_count.htm