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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:18 PM
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2009: Year of the Filibuster
Trying to squeeze any sort of peace on earth out of our government in Washington has been a steep uphill climb for years. For the most part we no longer have representatives in Congress, because of the corruption of money, the weakness of the media, and the strength of parties. There are not 535 opinions on Capitol Hill on truly important matters, but 2. Our supposed representatives work for their party leaders, not for us. Luckily, one of the two parties claims to want to work for us.

When the Democrats were in the minority and out of the White House, they told us they wanted to work for us but needed to be in the majority. So, in 2006, we put them there. Then they told us that they really wished they could work for us but they needed bigger majorities and the White House. So, in 2008, we gave them those things, and largely deprived them of two key excuses for inaction. We took away the veto excuse and came very close to taking away the filibuster excuse, and -- in fact -- the filibuster excuse could be taken away completely if the Democrats didn't want to keep it around.

This is not to say that either excuse was ever sensible. The two most important things the 110th Congress refused to do (ceasing to fund illegal wars, and impeaching war criminals) did not require passing legislation, so filibusters and vetoes were not relevant. But the Democrats in Congress, and the Republicans, and the media, and the White House all pretended that wars could only be ended by legislation, so the excuses for not passing legislation loomed large. The veto excuse will be gone on January 20th. The filibuster excuse could be gone by January 6th if Senator Harry Reid wanted it gone.

The filibuster excuse works like this. Any 41 senators can vote No on "cloture", that is on bringing a bill to a vote, and that bill will never come to a vote, and anything the House of Representatives has done won't matter. Any of the other 59 senators, the 435 House members, the president, the vice president, television pundits, and newspaper reporters can blame the threat of filibuster for anything they fail to do.

Now, the Senate itself is and always has been and was intended to be an anti-democratic institution. It serves no purpose that is not or could not be more democratically accomplished by the House alone. The Senate should simply be eliminated by Constitutional Amendment. But the filibuster is the most anti-democratic tool of the Senate, and can be eliminated without touching the Constitution, which does not mention it. If you take 41 senators from the 21 smallest states, you can block any legislation with a group of multi-millionaires elected by 11.2 percent of the American public. That fact is a national disgrace that should be remedied as quickly as possible.

The filibuster was created by accident when the Senate eliminated a seemingly redundant practice of voting on whether to vote. Senators then discovered, after a half-century of surviving just fine without the filibuster, that they could block votes by talking forever. In 1917 the Senate created a rule allowing a vote by two-thirds of those voting, to end a filibuster. In 1949 they changed the rule to require two-thirds of the entire Senate membership. In 1959 they changed it back. And in 1975 they changed the rule to allow three-fifths of the Senators sworn into office to end a filibuster and force a vote. Filibustering no longer requires giving long speeches. It only requires threatening to do so. The use of such threats has exploded over the past 10 years, dominating the decision-making process of our government and effectively eliminating the possibility of truly populist or progressive legislation emerging from Congress. This has happened at the same time that the forces of money, media, and party have led the Democrats in both houses to view the filibuster excuse as highly desirable, rather than as an impediment.

Were the Democrats serious about eliminating the filibuster excuse, they would either take every step possible to get 60 senators into their caucus, or they would change the rule requiring 60 senators for cloture. Possible steps to reach that magic number of 60 would include ensuring the closest thing possible at this point to honest and verifiable outcomes in the Minnesota senate election and every other senate election of this past November, immediately seating replacement senators for Obama, Biden, and Democrats appointed and confirmed for other offices, appointing Republican senators from states with Democratic governors to key jobs in the Obama administration and immediately seating their replacements, and providing Washington, D.C., with a House member and two senators (this last approach changing the magic number to 61 and potentially providing the 60th and 61st Democrats). Simpler and more certain would be simply changing the rule, specifically Senate Rule 22, which reads in part:

"'Is it the sense of the Senate that the debate shall be brought to a close?' And if that question shall be decided in the affirmative by three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn -- except on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, in which case the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the Senators present and voting -- then said measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, shall be the unfinished business to the exclusion of all other business until disposed of."


This would seem to suggest that it takes 60 senators to block a filibuster and 66 senators (if 100 are present, otherwise fewer) to end the power of 60 senators to block filibusters. But that's not the whole story. William Greider recently explained:

"In 1975 the filibuster issue was revived by post-Watergate Democrats frustrated in their efforts to enact popular reform legislation like campaign finance laws. Senator James Allen of Alabama, the most conservative Democrat in the Senate and a skillful parliamentary player, blocked them with a series of filibusters. Liberals were fed up with his delaying tactics. Senator Walter Mondale pushed a campaign to reduce the threshold from sixty-seven votes to a simple majority of fifty-one. In a parliamentary sleight of hand, the liberals broke Allen's filibuster by a majority vote, thus evading the sixty-seven-vote rule. (Senate rules say you can't change the rules without a cloture vote, but the Constitution says the Senate sets its own rules. As a practical matter, that means the majority can prevail whenever it decides to force the issue.) In 1975 the presiding officer during the debate, Vice President Rockefeller, first ruled with the liberals on a motion to declare Senator Allen out of order. When Allen appealed the "ruling of the chair" to the full Senate, the majority voted him down. Nervous Senate leaders, aware they were losing the precedent, offered a compromise. Henceforth, the cloture rule would require only sixty votes to stop a filibuster."


If Vice President Biden's assistance appears needed for this, it can wait until January 21st. If it waits longer than that, the credibility of the filibuster excuse will collapse, because the Democrats will be publicly admitting that they prefer to keep that excuse around.

If the Minnesota election remains undecided, cloture may require one fewer vote under current rules, but the Democrats will have one fewer senator. The outcome of that race will only be decisive if the Democrats refuse to change the filibuster rule and pursue other attempts to achieve a caucus able to vote for cloture.

If, through one means or another, the Democrats eliminate the filibuster excuse, our job will be to organize and agitate immediately to take full advantage of this rare opportunity for actual representative government. Greider proposes reducing to 55 percent of the Senate the number of senators needed for cloture. I propose reducing it to 50 percent plus one. Either way, nobody is proposing that a minority be empowered to decide anything, only that a majority finally be permitted to (even to the extent allowed by an anti-democratic body like the U.S. Senate in which both Wyoming and California have the same number of senators). Should that happen, all I can say to Wall Street and the military industrial complex is: get ready to be shocked and awed!

If the Democrats choose to keep the filibuster excuse around, our job will be to overwhelm them and the media with our refusal to believe it. Yes, we'll also want to lobby for peace, justice, jobs, green energy, and health care. But we'll never get them unless we insist on pressuring the Senate on this seemingly arcane little matter of passing bills, or what we might call a campaign for "No taxation without representation."
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:29 PM
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1. There's an easy way to solve this problem, I think.
Each and every time they threaten a filibuster, just make them do it. Make sure C-SPAN has their cameras on them as they read from phone books, or do whatever nonsense it is that they'll inevitably end up doing. Then, create a series of advertisements where we make sure the American people know exactly what it is that the Republicans think it's important to talk about while the future of our country hangs in the balance.

The filibuster isn't entirely a bad thing - it's another safeguard for the rights of the minority, to protect from mob rule gone amuck. But the way the Republicans have already threatened to use it is massively astray from the argument from minority rights, and clearly into the realm of, as you've pointed out, anti-democratic excess.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:34 PM
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2. yes doing that
would be better than nothing

protecting the rights of the minority of millionaire corporate stooges from rural states is not what Madison had in mind and is not in the Constitution
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:10 PM
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5. Agreed! Frankly I don't think half of them would even go through with it.
The threat of the filibuster should not be enough to kill legislation.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:49 PM
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6. Unfortunately, we lack
a strong Majority Leader. Reid folds faster than a cheap suit. All we will ever get is excuses and no action. When he was a minority leader, he folded when it came to filibustering. When the republicans threaten, as majority leader he will fold again.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:53 PM
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8. Absolutely. Keep the Senate in-session 24x7 and halt all other business until the filibuster stops!
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:54 PM by TahitiNut
Udamnedwellbetcha.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:55 PM
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9. True and given the use of the internet
and fundraising, it should be pretty easy to pull people together to do something like that. Obama's list (hopefully) still has millions of people on it. That combined with MoveOn who could also do similar things would be good.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:03 PM
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3. Bookmarked
Merry Christmas, David! :patriot: :hi:
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:46 PM
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11. back atcha
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:06 PM
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4. We need the filibuster for later (spine intact) progressives. Make them actually do it on camera.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:08 PM by McCamy Taylor
And have Dem leaders get on TV and say "The Republicans are filibustering health care." "The GOP is filibuster your unemployment." "They are filibustering aid for crippled children." Keep score. Each time they do it say "They blocked health care, economic relief, ___, ____." They have cost you $x so far."

Meanwhile have the administration run hearings like Pecora did into how Bush enabled the mortgage meltdown along with his rich Republican buddies. In 2010, we get a filibuster proof Senate the way that FDR did in the next midterm.

Easy as pie. Obama and Axelrod can do it. The GOP has no strategy right now. They are the Israelites lost in the desert.

Remember how Starr's job was to kill the office of the independent counsel? The GOP's job may be to kill the filibuster.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:47 PM
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12. no sorry
two more years of bullshit is exactly what i am arguing against

the government can be more than a campaign for the next elections

if not now then for godsake when?
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:51 PM
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7. It's the basic good cop/bad cop (cruel partner) schtick
Harry Reid: "I'd like to help the auto industry, but the Republicans won't let me!"

Very few are fooled at this point, I should hope.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:02 PM
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10. Maybe 2009 will be the year of the "Nuclear Option"? n/t
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:52 PM
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14. Hey, the Republicans said they wanted it.
Now they are telling us they want us to reach across the aisle and compromise. Let us give the Republicans to chance to vote on what they were advocating so passionately for just a few short years ago. (To be clear I am not a hypocrite so I still oppose the nuclear option, but in the spirit of reaching out in a bi-partisan fasion I think it would be nice to give the Republicans the opportunity to vote on the issue that they have made it clear they are very passionate about.)
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:55 PM
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13. 'filiisters' enabled by talk radio monopoly
"If you take 41 senators from the 21 smallest states, you can block any legislation with a group of multi-millionaires elected by 11.2 percent of the American public."

those least populated states are often the states most dominated by the talk radio monopoly with its coordinated uncontested repetition, often to people just trying to get some current events or news while driving or working. no other single tool has been more successful for the GOP for keeping GOP senators in line and pushing the center to the right. until americans start calling complaining boycotting and picketing their local stations and their local sponsors when they lie about and threaten their candidates and causes most of this this crap will continue into obamas term and have an effect. look now at the blogo scandal, dems and the UAW causing the depression, while vote election theft witnesses who go down in planes and vice presidents admit to outing CIA agents get a pass. the corp media might pass on most of it but its mostly talk radio that chooses which molehills get turned into stinking mountains.

ignoring the talk radio monopoly continues to be the biggest political blunder in decades.  GOP radio monopoly hinders all progressive efforts. no other medium allows anywhere near the same level of coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition 24/7/365 to catapult the propaganda. it makes democracy and bipartisanship impossible. we wouldn't be in this bush disaster if reagan hadn't killed the FD 20 years ago. the only consolation is that it drove the GOP over a cliff. unfortunately it took the rest of us with it.

a single local blowhard reading GOP and chamber of commerce talking points can undo the work of thousands of citizens volunteering a few hours and dollars here and there. it is the most powerful single- minded easily manipulated political constituency in the US and has an audience the size of the crowd that voted for obama. its 1000 stations are the power centers of the GOP. it determines what is and what isn't acceptable in the rest of the media. it enables flat earthers in GOP politics and it enables/requires the tradmedia to entertain flat earthers in their forums. it turns dems into blue dogs (limbaugh dems).

don't know if a new FD is the way to go but something must be done. and oh yeah, the FD did NOT require equal time- just a chance at rebuttal for partisan political speech. limbaugh and the other national blowhards don't even take real calls and cannot be criticized except when someone fools the screener.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:11 PM
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15. If the pukes try being obstructionist they will be slapped silly some more in 2010.
These dumbnesses won't be able to do squat when we get a 2/3 majority in both houses.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:34 PM
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16. oh man
If they only had the will . . . nice paragraph from William Greider.

Are there any Senators talking about this yet?

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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:42 PM
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17. not that i know of
most of em clearly LOVE having the excuse

why would they talk about eliminating it?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 10:01 PM
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18. I think I remember threats by republicans to do so over Dem opposition to Alito
. . . some convenience could come along to motivate it into action, along with a pie-in-the-sky.
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