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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:14 PM
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Poll question: Are you gay ?
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 02:32 PM by kentuck
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:15 PM
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1. Yes, I'm quite happy.
And you?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:17 PM
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3. No, I am not...
Sometimes I am happy and sometimes I am not. However, I do support the rights of gays to marry and to share equal rights with other citizens. I do not see how that would hurt anyone.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:16 PM
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2. Not LBGT as far as I know
But Human Rights are Human Rights- non-negotiable, non-conditional, deadly important
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:17 PM
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4. Straight and repulsed. n/t
:kick:


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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:18 PM
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5. Yes, AND WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY!
NOT EVEN IF THERE WERE A PILL OR A SURGERY THAT COULD 'CORRECT' ME. I LIKE PENIS TOO MUCH.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:22 PM
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9. "I LIKE PENIS TOO MUCH."
:rofl:

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

BTW, I'm not gay and I think EVERYONE should have the EXACT same rights as everyone else, without conditions.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:31 PM
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13. Glad you liked that!
:D
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:50 PM
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15. And the Caps Lock key as well. (nt)
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:20 PM
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6. It's not an either/or question.
I'm bisexual.

(Also, I can never, ever hear that question in anything but Margaret Cho's mom's voice.)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:21 PM
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7. Who wants to know?
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:22 PM
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8. ACK! I gave the wrong answer
Please count another vote for we should all fight for all human rights. I didn't see that when I selected supporting gay marriage. Marriage is only a small part of it.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:28 PM
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16. Actually, those two should be
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 03:30 PM by awoke_in_2003
rolled into one.

on edit: why I think they should be rolled into one is a matter of semantics. The whole "support" and "fight" thing. Those who marched with MLK, or sat down in the cafeterias, or refused to give up their seat on the bus, did so in a nonviolent manner, but you cannot say they did not fight for civil rights.
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:12 PM
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19. Oh, that's an interesting take on it.
I hadn't thought of that. Yes, you're right.

I wanted to change my answer because the one I accidentally checked just mentioned marriage, whereas the other seems more inclusive - all human rights, all measures of equality should be guaranteed regardless of sexual orientation.

Just as being gay isn't all about sex, it isn't all about marriage, either. Having to fight for rights and equalities one at a time seems kind've crazy to me - and to you, too, I'm sure - but it could happen. We're a weird nation. We brag about our view of freedom and try to spread it abroad whether people there want it or not. Yet at home, we seem to work insanely hard to keep the number of Americans who can enjoy all those freedoms as limited as possible.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 07:51 PM
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25. "We're a weird nation."
You've got that right.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:29 PM
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10. #4, or Constitutionally speaking, we must eliminate marriage rights altogether...
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 02:33 PM by guruoo
'The Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution,
provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection
of the laws".<1> The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of
the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal"<2>
by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause



"for all" - The two most important words in our pledge of allegiance, IMO.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:29 PM
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11. More important, I'm a liberal.
For me, principle far outweighs narrow self-interest ... and that's WHY I'm a liberal. IMHO, one cannot be called a 'liberal' if one's politics are the politics of self-interest, i.e. "identity politics." The notion that one is most likely to be GBLT to fight for equal rights and entitlements for GBLT folks, or is most likely to be female to fight for equal rights and entitlements for women, or even ASKING/ASSUMING that one is 'X' if one stands up for the equal rights and entitlements of 'X' ... is despicable on a purportedly "progressive" forum.

This forum WALLOWS in ad hominem thinking ... repeatedly and constantly resorting to inquisition of an individual's PERSONAL attributes in lieu of addressing issues from a principled and just standpoint. Worse, at least 50% of the folks who read this cannot seem to comprehend it ... at least that's been my experience here. Even when I point it out directly to individual DUers, it seems to be beyond their ken. That's sad. (And 90% think themselves "critical thinkers"?? Ludicrous. Fucking ludicrous.)

Happy holidays! :hi: :party:
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:31 PM
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12. There are some gays who think they're not discriminated against?
What planet do they live on? Can't be Earth.

Or they didn't read thru all of the possible responses?

Holy mother of Jesus.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:41 PM
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14. Well...the poll was set up kind of stupidly.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 02:42 PM by Umbram
The question is Are you Gay?

The answer seems pretty simply, yes or no (well...not really that boolean, now is it?) but once you start the poll with "Yes" and "No" and then throw a bunch of responses unrelated to the basic question below it you end up with a crock of shit poll that doesn't mean much.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:11 PM
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20. Shoot, over 20% voted McCain, in spite of the batshit GOP platform and Palin
I find that staggering. Imagine if the GOP was anywhere near sane on civil rights issues or even just gay right in particular, I wonder how close it would get to 50/50?

It just doesn't seem far from a sizable group of Jews voting Nazi, or something hyper-extreme like that.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 11:34 PM
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26. People are universally interested in promoting their .....
.... perceived self interest, so no, it would not surprise me that , if the GOP was indistinguishable from the DEMs on gay issues, 50% of gays would vote GOP.

Right now, you do hear conservative attitudes expressed by GLBTs at parties, etc. on issues that do not effect gays per se. What seems to distinguish progressive people, gay or not, from non-progressives is that progressives realize that their own long term self interest is tied up in what 's good for the society as a whole. *Enlightened* self interest, one might say.

It's a mark of emotional and intellectual maturity. Conservatives generally just don't get to that point.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:35 PM
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17. I am neither straight nor gay.
I'm sick of this silly bifurcations.
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:11 PM
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18. I am not gay.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 04:12 PM by Doc_Technical
I'm usually melancholy.
I voted for: but I think we should all fight for human rights and equality.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:14 PM
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21. The poll needs better options.
I'm not gay, but gay rights are human rights. And those rights include the ability to marry.
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:39 PM
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22. Not Gay, but it's all right if I have them as buddies, right?
The Gee-Zuz won't get pissed, right?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:53 PM
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23.  Weirdest poll I've ever seen...
but, "yes".
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:58 PM
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24. no, but
I support the right of gays to marry.
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