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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:57 PM
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An aspect of gender-neutral marriage you might not have thought about...
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 01:45 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
I know that GLBT never had it so good, marriage is just a word, etc., etc., etc.

But here's something jarring to consider.

Men CAN marry other men all over the USA. Full marriage, not civil unions.

Th only thing is, the state requires that a man who wants to marry a man has to do two things:
1) get a note from his doctor certifying that he suffers a mental disorder, and

2) Have his penis and testicles surgically removed. (For a woman to marry a woman one partner must have a hysterectomy.)
A transsexual born in a male body can get her birth certificate changed to "female" if she has "bottom" surgery and then it's "one man, one woman."

Transsexuals probably face more discrimination and difficulty than just about anyone and I think it's great that gender re-assignment is legally recognized. And I am in no way conflating gay and transexual... two very, very different things.

Just noting the bizarre internal contradictions inherent in or current system... contradictions that would vanish over-night if we had gender-neutral marriage.

In one of MSNBC's documentaries about transsexuals they showed a happy couple including a transsexual who had breast implants and took hormones but didn't feel like having her penis removed. So they couldn't get married. When the California Supreme Court mandated that marriage be gender neutral they were delighted since they could now marry without unwanted surgery. Then Prop 8 took that away. Our brains and endocrine systems make these issues complicated enough without the state messing with everyone.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:53 PM
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1. You first. n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:03 PM
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3. :raising hand: ....... I have a question .......
..... what are you talking about?
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