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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:48 AM
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Fuck you Rick Warren
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:48 AM
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1. Agreed.
He represents hate to me.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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2. Ditto
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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3. He reminds me of a court jester.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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4. He got kind of an icy reception
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:54 AM
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30. Kinda?
How many people are there and it sounded like hardly anyone was applauding? - Given the crowd noise you could hear when other people appeared on the stage, it was most gratifying.

I thought his prayer really sucked - just not my kind of religion and it seemed way too long. The line about commiting the Obamas to God "loving care" sounded like something you'd hear at a funeral.

Not much noise when he finished either - especially when ARetha is introduced right after him and you could hear real noise (by, my God, her hat is awful)
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:35 PM
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60. I loved her hat!
And as a native of "Motown," I was thrilled to see her up there!

:hi:
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:03 PM
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77. I loved her hat too!
Her whole ensemble was really chic.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:36 PM
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116. I did, too! I mean, you'd probably have to be Aretha to pull it off
But she can definitely pull it off.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:29 PM
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134. She is the Queen...
Everyone knocks the Queen's hats. Just ask Queen Elizabeth. And when someone knocks their hats, they both sing the same tune. "R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me..." Means you don't get invited to dinner!

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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:00 AM
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197. That hat was the only thing that read from 200 yards...
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 11:01 AM by heliarc
Showed real understanding for the theatricality of the venue. It had presence from far away... none of us watching on television really get that effect, but if you were there,I'm sure that the effect was exactly right. She looked like Mama Rose. Quite a good choice actually. In a way she stole the show. It's one of the only things besides the politics and pomp of the event that people are talking about.
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ebt12 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:49 PM
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174. I agree about the hat
It was outrageous! My co-worker sitting next to me during lunch (work had all 3 TVs in the cafeteria tuned to CNN) couldn't believe the hat.

As for the Rick Warren, with is views he should not have been there. Too long, and it didn't sound like he was including everyone.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 12:08 AM
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181. The hat...
Well it made everyone forget what Rick Warren had just said. So god bless the hat. And of course always god bless Aretha.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:58 AM
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194. really?? That's gratifying!
I was at work--missed everything!! :cry: !!!
I sure hope it's all up on YouTube!!
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:42 PM
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86. Yep, no one around me applauded him.
Just like Poppy. W got booed, loudly. by me and others.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:54 PM
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123. It was 15 degrees out.
Everyone got an icy reception.

The prayer was disgraceful, though. Made it sound like only Christians will be allowed in the US.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:17 PM
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129. And only Protestant ones with that "Our Father"
Catholics don't say the "Our Father" with the last line about "For thyne blah, blah blah." So much for a unifying theme! And, Jews and Muslims and all the other non-Prostestant Americans say that prayer either. Why are these TV evangelist seemingly all so bloated? When God talks to them might he/she not suggest a little restraint at the dinner table and a bit more exercise?
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:22 PM
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133. And they must speak Spanish!!!!
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 06:25 PM by Baby Snooks
Just in case you missed it, some did because they were in shock by that point realizing the "Sermon on the Mount" was coming, Jesus is no longer pronounced "Jee-zus." It is pronounced "Hay-soos."

So maybe he's running low on donations and thought if he spoke a little Spanish the Hispanics would send him a check.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:51 AM
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187. I think Obama was relieved when Saddleback Boy finished up
Warren was clearly milking it. It even looked like he put in three or four false endings, where everybody was expecting him to get to the "amen", but he didn't. Warren's attitude seemed to be "I got the mike, you assholes can't stop me".
The reaction shots of Obama clearly seemed to show him thinking "wrap it up, lardass". If it had gone on another minute, I wonder if the Marine Band would've started in with the Oscar night "shut up, you've talked too long" theme.

Anyway, that part is done. We can move on from it.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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5. 2nded
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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6. You stole my post
:D.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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I'll join you in that one
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TAGGLINES Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:16 PM
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154. YEAH..WHAT Y'ALL SAID!!
What a putz...BUT...he was allowed to stick that fat assed foot right in that fundie-cakehole...and run fer cover. Commodus Caesar (GWB)...was shamed ...(well at least one can hope...) and Commodus Sr. (cuz, like my 13 year old reminded me, Marcus Aureleus was a GOOD guy...)...just 'bout fell out.

Barack was grace, authority, redemption, quiet and steady calm, resolve, and peaceful...

Aretha...My Prez...The Assembled Multitude...God Bless America, my home sweet home...

:pals::pals::pals::pals::pals::pals::pals::pals::pals::pals:
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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7. Agreed.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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8. Did anyone turn their backs on him?
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 11:50 AM by Bluzmann57
Edited 'cause I can't type very well.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:09 PM
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53. I gave him a one fingered salute
What a bigot and hypocrite.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:19 PM
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57. I watched in an Auditorium at work and walked out
when they announced him and came back when he was finished.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:18 PM
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131. Yes, I went into the kitchen to load the dishwasher and kept my back
to the TV except for the last minute or so. What a blowheart!
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:08 AM
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199. I did but I was in a small group at out favorite restaurant....
We had a party of about ten who campaigned for Obama in Cobb County Georgia, when Warren came on, I voiced my feelings(bigot) and turned my chair and back to him.
No one said anything nor did they follow suit, what can I say this is Georgia.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:17 AM
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201. self delete computer doing weird things today
Edited on Wed Jan-21-09 11:22 AM by unapatriciated
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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9. what you said
only double
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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10. I hit my Purpose Driven Mute Button
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:50 AM
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16. EPIC WIN!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:45 PM
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88. Oops! Replied to wrong reply...
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 04:46 PM by Vickers
:blush:

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:30 PM
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46. ROFL
:rofl:
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:37 PM
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62. LOL I wish I'd done that rather than suffer through it. nt
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:24 PM
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80. YES.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:46 PM
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90. Rec'ed for a DUzy
:thumbsup:
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:53 PM
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92. I LOLd.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:00 PM
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93. Zing!
:rofl:
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:26 PM
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107. LOL!!! So did I! I couldn't stand to listen to him. n/t
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:16 PM
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128. I changed the channel
I couldn't stand to even look at him to mute it. The History channel had something about Presidents and they were on JFK. So I watched that for a few minutes. Even a commercial would have been better than Warren.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:00 PM
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176. bwhahahahahaha! Good one! nt
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:04 AM
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184. LMAO!!
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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11. Recommended!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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12. I could do without this asshole. n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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13. Time to get a cup of coffe..
fuck you rick warren
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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14. Well Said - K&R - nt
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:49 AM
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15. That fucking invocation is bullshit! FU Warren!
:grr:
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:50 AM
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17. Seems a little grandiose for a prayer
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:50 AM
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18. he had to bring up israel
:eyes: and what's the emphasis on obama's race? ugh
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:45 PM
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66. It's a sales pitch
The fundangelicans are trying to demonstrate that they don't hate black people any more, so they can bump up their membership rolls.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:04 PM
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73. yeah--i found most of his 'prayer' pretty hypocritical...
...considering all he's stood 'against.'

:puke:

big sack of crap, that one.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:57 PM
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151. You mean a "big sack of shoes" don't you?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:50 AM
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19. Amen to that!
:P
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:50 AM
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20. This is for the "Obama is the antichrist" protesters
One of their ilk says thanks to God for Obama.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:51 AM
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21. He and his words are offensive to me.
Piece of Shit:thumbsdown:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:51 AM
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22. I hit the mute button first thing,
I'm not a religious person anyway and I'll not give his hypocritical bigoted ass one second of time. FUCK him
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:51 AM
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Why is he yelling??? This is a horrible invocation
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:42 PM
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65. He's trying to invoke satan
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:51 AM
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23. And the congregation said AMEN!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:51 AM
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24. we are fast forwarding through
his speech at our inaugural dinner ball.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:52 AM
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25. I'm glad to hear Israel will stand accountable!
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:52 AM
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26. shut the fuck up and get off.
crikey.
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:54 AM
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31. Aretha can take all the damn time she wants.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:38 PM
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64. oops!
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 02:59 PM by HEyHEY
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:47 PM
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67. What?
are you talking to me?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:58 PM
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70. Ah, shit, I wasn't meaning to
Sorry, window fuck ups.
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:04 PM
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72. Whew! np
I thought my lack of stfu-'Warren" might have been thought of as a response to the OP.

Which of course it wasn't it's just my teeth were grinding so hard I had to post in the moment(during invocation).

:-)
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:52 AM
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27. Aarrgh! Bastard! n/t
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 11:53 AM by cynatnite
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:53 AM
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28. Who is this Jesus guy he is talking about? eom
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:31 PM
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47. Jesus Chavez. Former Jr. Lightweight boxing champion
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:36 PM
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61. It struck me as wildly inappropriate, considering how many...
Americans are non-Christian, to go on and on about Jeebus.
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mamameow Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:46 PM
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89. agree
we need to really fight to get religion out of our government. why do we need any prayers on this day? why do we have religious people giving speeches before sessions of congress? why do have to pay to have religious stations included in our cable/satellite service? try and not pay for them when you do not want them and you have no service. who said this country does not have a government sponsored/endorsed religion.??
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:20 PM
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104. And yet, the Christian right whines about how oppressed..
and under attack they are!

The ceremonies of today were a perfect example of how politicians bend over backwards to pander to "believers."

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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:19 PM
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156. Ditto. Anyone who's been paying close attention to previous inaugurations
(obviously I haven't, except to this one) - is that usual? To be so heavily weighted toward a single religion?
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:53 AM
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WAY too long
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:55 AM
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32. Too Long and Boring
Started tuning him out.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:36 PM
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39. Yes indeed
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:53 AM
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29. Keep it short already...... get off ...gas bag..............
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:55 AM
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33. People listen to this poseur?
They must be desperate since Falwell kicked off.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:55 AM
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34. Amen
Fuck him
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:57 AM
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35. meh... Rick Warren
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 11:57 AM by AsahinaKimi
I hope this guy fades from History..
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:10 PM
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36. i turned off the sound
streaming cnn and facebook - he got a general thumbs down.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:20 PM
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37. His "prayer" was a speech .... nauseating drivel.
It went on and yawn. what a dink.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:38 PM
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117. Yes. Very short on inspiration. And on and on and on.
Then all the overt Christian references... does he really not care that he's addressing an entire nation, and - surprise! - not all of the people in this nation are Christian. Fewer are Christian according to his dictates, I'm sure.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:21 PM
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38. Yep.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:41 PM
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40. Agreed.
Hopefully, these haters are dying out. It's nice to see, too, someone attacking the haters, instead of our president.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:45 PM
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41. Worst invocation ever - non-ecumenical
Compare it to Dr. Lowery's benediction and it shows the intolerance, arrogance, and poverty of Warren's "brand" of faith.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:02 PM
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71. I am not religious whatsoever
(spiritual yes, religious, no), but I did enjoy Dr. Lowery's benediction heartily!
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:38 PM
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118. Yup, Yup, Yup. nt
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:59 PM
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124. Well, Dr. Lowery is the real deal.
Not some Orange County politician dressed up as a minister.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:47 PM
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42. horrible invocation
let alone the person who spoke it.


what a joke that man is. to pretend to be up there being joyful for equal rights.
what a pompous asshole.


the second person who spoke tho, thats a man of God. humble before the lord and asking for forgiveness.

unlike warren who seems to think hes Gods right hand man just under jesus.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:17 PM
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43. That was the longest gawd damned prayer! I turned the sound off & it was forever
before he was done. Like what the hell was Warren trying to prove? :puke:
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:01 PM
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76. He made me have to pee.
So I took off and went. I thought I'd be back and it would be over. Not enough pee.:grr:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:28 PM
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44. he is one of thee worse preachers i have ever heard
whether or not they are right or left, i`ll admire their ability to sell "it"...but warren is just a horrible public speaker. no wonder he writes books
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:29 PM
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45. K&R
n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:32 PM
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48. I heard him mention Israel
did he also mention Palestine?
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:23 PM
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146. He was quoting a passage from the Bible
Deuteronomy 6:4

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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:33 PM
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49. HSN was actually more interesting for those 2 minutes
and they were selling more tacky Obama merchandise
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:04 PM
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50. He is no christian n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:31 PM
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84. How do you figure? Just curious. nt
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:03 PM
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125. Not to speak for Magleetis, but for myself,
He's greedy, self-righteous, power-mad, and judgemental. Methinks Jesus would be knocking over the tables, if he showed up at Saddleback.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:23 PM
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147. Could be. He is all those things. nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:43 PM
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168. I got a deep sense of insincerity
But I often get this when I hear the words of mega church and TV evangelists. I feel they are like Bush, they play a Christian on TV. I see no difference in their behavior-morality and that of a non-believer. No, I do see a difference. They are less honest and more greedy, in general. Sorry, if you are offended but that is my impression.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:13 AM
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190. "no difference in their behavior-morality and that of a non-believer"
Frankly, as a nonbeliever I'm a little offended by the suggestion that we are as immoral and dishonest as TV evangelists. I don't tell people to deny gays their rights. I'm not opposing medical research that will help real people. I'm not telling Africans not to use contraceptives. I'm not trying to turn all women into nothing more that baby machines. I'm not complicit in the systematic rape of children. I'm also not teaching children that anyone who disagrees with me is damned for all time. As far as the morality of belief goes generally, skeptics did not burn witches, torture and murder heretics, defend racism, burn books or conspire with the Nazis.

As a skeptic, I am perfectly willing to accept you as a good and moral person, but apparently my disagreement on the issue of god does not allow you to reciprocate.
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:20 AM
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196. Great post. :) n/t
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:53 PM
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205. Sorry, Deep13
I should have worded my post better. I'm in agreement with what you said.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:49 PM
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206. We're good.
:hi:

And the idiocracy is over. :party:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:06 PM
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51. No arguments here. n/t
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:06 PM
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52. a Steaming Pile of Patriarchal BS.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:13 PM
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54. I also hit mute. Just knew I couldn't listen to his particular brand of arrogance.
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mamameow Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:51 PM
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91. me too!
i fell over the foot stool trying to get to the mute button!!!!! just a pile of puke!!!! get religion out of our government!!!!!!
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:14 PM
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55. Yup
He's a disgusting monster.
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:16 PM
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56. K&R!
:thumbsup:
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:24 PM
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58. My little Rat Terrier lived up to her breed and started barking...
at the TV when he started speaking. She was otherwise quiet and peaceful, but she knows a RAT when she sees one!

Warren was the low point of this otherwise wonderful day.

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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:32 PM
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59. The ONLY
and I mean ONLY born again preacher man I'll ever listen to is Burt Lancaster in "Elmer Gantry."

Warren made reference to the difference God made in his life - immediately suspect - too revivalist and prostelitizing (sp? - whew)
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:38 PM
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63. K&R
What a stooge
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:48 PM
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68. sigh of relief at the truth. nt
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 02:49 PM
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69. He hissed the names of Sasha and Malia. It was weird.
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Wendio Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:27 PM
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82. Creepy!
That really sounded perverted.
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:33 PM
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112. My house full of folks all thought exactly the same - CREEPY and Pedophilic.
Poor Malia and Sasha will probably have nightmares after hearing their names spoken like that!
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:09 PM
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127. No kidding! Poor things.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:09 PM
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97. Sounded like he was thinking "ehh, such furrin' names"...
I didn't really consider it "hissing"; it came off to me like he was Dubya trying to pronounce a name like "Mobutu Seseseko," i.e. trying to show how "enlightened" he is by pronouncing "like the locals do," but instead just proving himself to be the racist moron that he is.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:05 PM
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74. Yes, fuck Rick Warren. I'll watch him tomorrow, not today. n/t
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:09 PM
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75. agreed. n/t
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:22 PM
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78. Warren was like a huge wart on a beautiful woman's face.......nt
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paulkienitz Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:23 PM
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79. I might add that the invocation he gave ended up being quite lame (nt)
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:25 PM
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81. Amen.
No irony intended.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:30 PM
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83. And not in a good way, either!
Yeah.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:32 PM
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85. and the warthog you rode in on.
On second thought, that warthog deserves better.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 04:44 PM
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87. He stunk up the place
and was as he always is, all about Ricky. He shouted and pushed and pulled mincing faces. What a guy. What a talent.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:02 PM
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94. he is revolting
:puke:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:06 PM
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95. Warren needs to read his Bible
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Matthew 6:6
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:10 PM
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98. That doesn't sell many books, you know.
:sarcasm:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:17 PM
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102. I guess it's hard to get money in the till when you keep your religion to yourself...
Money, of course, being the most important element of religion.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:47 PM
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169. Goddess, thank you for reminding us.
But religious figures often pick and choose the passages to fit the circumstances.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:08 PM
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96. You prove that even on a day like today there are nasty, hateful people (on BOTH sides)! Thanks.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:14 PM
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101. "you?" Warren or the OP?
Acknowledging that evil people are evil is not being nasty or hateful. Justifiable anger does not make someone nasty or hateful. Warren is a hate-monger and a con artist. As happy as I am with the President so far, a snake-oil salesman like Warren had no business at a presidential inauguration.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:22 PM
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105. The OP - there is a time and a place for everything....and a little discretion, too...
Today isn't the time.
This isn't the place.

And the foulness is uncalled for, regardless of the OP's and others' (mine included) opinions.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:23 PM
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106. Huh. I respectfully disagree. nt
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:47 PM
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121. ummmmm..
no.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:07 PM
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126. Oh, my hoopty-- mustn't offend the King.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:25 PM
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148. awwwwwwww
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:39 PM
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171. We Didn't Pick the Guy, Genius.
You wanna blame someone for the bad feelings Warren engendered? Blame Obama.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:47 PM
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177. Deleted message
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:02 AM
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183. I am ashamed to say that YES I am hateful. George Bush and the last eight years
has done it. I hate what "they" have done to us. Today was wonderful but Rick Warren is one of the haters that I am so very sick of.
I shouldn't hate but I do. I hate those that try to steal our freedoms.

The OP is venting and I agree.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:24 AM
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191. Yes, Warren is a nasty, disgusting hateful man who miused the national stage.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:11 PM
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99. Agreed. A pointless gasbag if there ever was one.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:12 PM
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100. don't you realize that we must support anyone who hates gays?
NOT
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:17 PM
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103. And at the end...
'Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around... when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right. That all those who do justice and love mercy say Amen. Say Amen'...

And with that the Reverend Lowery made us forget the Reverend Warren and put a smile on our faces.
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:30 PM
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109. Amen! And I'm atheist! I enjoyed his prayer. I was like beautiful poetry
I can see why Obama picked him.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:39 PM
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119. Yes. nt
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:28 PM
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108. Rick is such a nobody
But I agree

However, I hope he gets caught with a male prostitute, redhanded and in the act


FUCK YOU, Rick! :rofl:
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:35 PM
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137. Nah
I hope he gets caught with a dead cow or something. A dead cow wearing a Hannity mask. And lederhosen.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:32 PM
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110. America's pastor...
...my ass.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:33 PM
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111. What a Bag o' Douche.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:33 PM
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113. Yeah. Fuck you, rick warren. nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:33 PM
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114. One problem is
that a lot of people see this differently. I was watching his speech online on the BBC feed and the commentators there were saying how this effectively makes Warren "America's chaplain."

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that's how Warren -- and quite possibly the MSM -- will see it. I have a feeling that anytime there is a religious question, America's Chaplain will have his bloated face on the TV pontificating -- just as Blackjack Bill Bennett is considered the final voice on ethics -- (despite getting his ass spanked by his dominatrix-for-hire in his Las Vegas hotel room).
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:35 PM
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115. That was everything I was afraid it would be:
most of all, exclusionist. Christian only. Directed at only a portion of this country.

Reading Gene Robinson's from the other day - he would have been so much better a choice!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:41 PM
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120. Good fucking riddance!!
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pollo poco Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:53 PM
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122. In Dublin Today
I watched the inauguration in a very large pub. Whenever Obama came on the screen, people cheered. When the Chimp came on, they booed and hissed. Someone also threw a shoe.

When Obama spoke, you could have heard a pin drop.

But before that, when Warren came on, he was soundly booed. Someone shouted, "Hater!"

Everyone talked through his hypocritical little prayer. The Dubliners at my table noticed that Obama clenched his teeth until you could see the muscles in his jaw. It was also great to notice that Obama's daughter didn't even pretend to listen or pray. Sensible girl. I was proud of her.


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Brucie Kibbutz Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:18 PM
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130. Eternal Hellfire For Bigots
You shouldn't bear false witness, Rick. :kick:
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:21 PM
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132. And the horse he rode in on (nt)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:35 PM
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135. I thought he ate the horse and hired a limo?
:shrug:
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 06:35 PM
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136. He was the only truly ugly moment in the entire fanfare
But then I guess he and his ilk are just a series of bad moments in everybody's lives. I'll say it again, I'll say it a hundred times, We would be living in the stars by now without these Luddite, cretin, troglodytes. (aka pugs)
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:00 PM
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138. I dedicate this song to Rick Warren (WARNING! LANGUAGE!)
From the South Park Movie "Bigger, Longer, Uncut"



Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker
You´re a cock sucking, ass-liking, uncle fucker
You´re an uncle fucker, yes it´s true
Nobody fucks uncles just like you

Shut your fucking face, uncle fucker
You´re the one that fucks your uncle uncle fucker
You don´t even sleep or mow the lawn
You fuck your uncle all day long

Shut you´re fucking face, uncle fucker
You´re a boner bitting bastard, uncle fucker
You´re an uncle fucker, i must say
You fucked your uncle yesterday!

Uncle fucker, that´s u-n-c-l-e, fuck you!
Uncle fucker!

Suck my balls!
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:08 PM
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139. Bloviating cancerous sore.
Mountebank. Hater. Sower of evil in a charm suit. A prideful con-man. May your fall from fame and fortune be public and splashy.
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Brucie Kibbutz Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:58 PM
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152. A puss filled pimple
on a dog's smelly nut sac. :rofl:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:24 PM
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157. I'll drink to that!
Oh wait...I'm already drinking! Cheers. :D
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thrift_store_angel Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:15 PM
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140. He got booed
Apparently you couldn't hear it on TV, but he did get booed...it was faint, but you could hear it from where I was in the front, so I am sure he could hear it. Some of the crap he was spewing was very hard to stomach, and he did ramble on for a LONG time.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:20 PM
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144. Good - thanks for sharing. I didn't watch him - couldn't because I would have thrown up.
:hide:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:16 PM
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141. I found his SERMONIZING offensive and not inclusive.
I guess nobody told him it wasn't ALL ABOUT HIM.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:18 PM
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142. Agreed. They're Repeating It Right Now on C-SPAN
Where's the love? Not in his speech.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:18 PM
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143. Just a schlockmeister who has yet to have his Swaggart moment. n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:22 PM
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145. it's over, done with . . . so can we just resolve never to mention his name again . . .
on this site? . . .

whatever you thought of the invocation, Rev. Lowry's benediction put him under the table . . . the contrast was striking -- kinda like when they did that Five Divas show a few years back, and Celine Dione and Mariah Carey were trying to outdo Aretha onstage . . . can't be done, and all they did was embarass themselves . . . which is pretty much what happened today . . .

from this day forth, the invocator is "he whose name shall never be uttered" . . . or typed . . . or otherwise acknowledged . . .

problem solved . . .
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:28 PM
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149. Meh.
I've read more inspiring things on the backs of cereal boxes than that lame invocation.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:40 PM
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150. His prayer was mediocre at best.
I was not impressed and the 1000s who stood near me on the Mall didn't either.
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dcsmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:03 PM
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153. very profound. not sure why 90 recs. not much said. seems
that maybe nothing was said. vulgarity and that's it. oh well....
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:59 PM
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179. You Need To Spend More Time On Reading Comprehension And Critical Thinking
And less time padding your comment in your profile. Just an FYI.
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dcsmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:48 PM
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208. sorry,
i guess i missed the point of " fuck you rick warren" i will practice my critical thinking when there is something to think critically about.
i do no like him either. i didn't like his prayer. his mention of jesus his our father, i don't like a praying government.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:45 AM
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204. Those are recs of extreme solidarity
Apparently some of us didnt really think very highly of the invocation.



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dcsmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 12:52 PM
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209. neither did i
i am sick of religion and government. i especially thought his exclusive christan prayer was divisive. he should have never been chosen. i do not want a praying government....i want a secular goverment that promotes secular polices.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:18 PM
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155. I muted him as my one act of protest today.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:27 PM
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158. So eloquent.
I quite agree.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:33 PM
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159. Indeed.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:42 PM
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160. Dude's a scumbag. A used scumbag.
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:45 PM
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161. He seems like a fake.
He's like a miscast actor. Politics aside. I don't believe that he gives a flying fuck about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:48 PM
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162. Recomended!
Fuck you very much Rick Warren!



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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:17 PM
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163. Rev Gene Robinson's invocation on Sunday was SOOOOO much better
and inclusive! Warren coulda left out the Jesus part, and, oh, well, the whole thing was horrible.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:30 PM
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164. Rev. Lowery took him to school
The benediction was how it SHOULD be done!
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:31 PM
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165. Ya
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 09:32 PM by toymachines
Rick, your sorry ass pussy voice sucked... Perhaps that was too much, but really, it wasn't a good invocation or much of a good anything.
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Sandrine for you Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:32 PM
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166. I secod this motion !
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:42 PM
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167. I missed him. Plaese don't tell me what he said. n/t
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sam kane Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:13 PM
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170. oh yeah. nt.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:44 PM
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172. What surprised me about Warren,
was what a lousy speaker he is. But come to think of it, these white fundamentalist types always are. It beats me how they attract so many followers. One would expect them to be these charismatic figures, to cover their lack of intellectual and moral content. But no, they aren't even that. Weird.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:49 PM
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 12:04 AM
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180. You Have Horrible Taste
Really. You liked what a jackass braying hypocritical fuckwittage said? Do you eat your toe nails too? Bad taste. Better go cry some more dear.
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LetsWaitNSee Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 10:56 PM
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175. Obama is the president of the people
but yet when he tries to bring in other points of views, you all down him and his choice...sad sad sad
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enuegii Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 11:48 PM
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178. I don't know if anybody else thinks about it this way...
but it seems to me Obama may have set the Rickster up with this.
Basically, Obama told him "Hey, 'America's Pastor,' here's your shot. Get your fat ass up there and show us what ya got!" And then he got owned by Lowery.
Don't know if that was the plan, but it would be cool if it was...
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 12:26 AM
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182. Truly disappointed me in the end
He took too long and he made it an exclusive Xtian prayer by adding the Jesus stuff.


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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 01:05 AM
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185. And a word to those that said it'd be just a short prayer, Boy you were so wrong.
It was a religious speech that had no business there. I think a religious speech at the inauguration violates the separation of church and state required by the Constitution.
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RyanClark Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:47 AM
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186. Had to watch him twice
I saw him during the live inauguration on TV and again at a local inaugural bash where they replayed the whole thing. Interesting however, is the fact while everyone in the room would applaud most everyone who appeared, Warren got nothing. In contrast, I appreciated Obama's mention of Muslims, nonbelievers, etc. (I'm a Christian myself).
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La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 05:58 AM
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188. mute button made it
bearable for me. Have another donut Ricky. I thought gluttony was a sin?
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 06:08 AM
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189. I was actually somewhat pleased with what he said...
I am not giving him a pass for being such a jerk, and I had my shoe off ready to throw at the tv screen, but I listened and then my shoe dropped.

I heard some humility in his prayer, and the dude obviously doesn't know how to pray. Idiot. But the things he apologized and asked for were at least an attempt. Maybe I was just caught up in the hopes for the day, but I was a lot less disappointed with him than I expected to be.

I did note that only 5 people clapped, and that many refused to let this charlatan lead them in praying. I appreciated how the cameras documented this. There were many more eyes open than closed, and those that were shut, like Obama's seemed to be almost for another prayer, something like, please god, forgive us for sitting here pretending to listen to this narcissistic shell of a man.

All of it was on view. Maybe that was what I was grateful for. Slime-ily, he did covertly cover the issues in his fake prayer, never saying, and yes, god created gays and therefore they are also perfect, outright, but he did really imply that. I guess that's why my soul found no fault with the words. Maybe Obama's staff wrote them.

I was not nearly as disturbed as I was prepared to be.

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Brgotn Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:15 AM
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200. I actually found Lawry’s prayer to be far more offensive than
Warren's. I wonder if Obama knew ahead of time what Lawry was going to say. I was very disappointed that such hate was shown at the inauguration. I pray that it isn't a sign of what is to come.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:44 AM
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192. Horrible "prayer" -- he embarrassed himself. His base must be seething and
we are all laughing.

Works for me.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 09:48 AM
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193. Agreed. nt.
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 10:07 AM
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195. no shit!!! i wouldn't want to go to his church! he's a hypocrite!!!!!
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:01 AM
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198. I am surprised that he didn't put in a plug for one of his stupid books.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:19 AM
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202. Rick Warren's invocation was profound!
It was profoundly mediocre.

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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:38 AM
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207. for me, it was worse than mediocre,more like horribly divisive and
for only a select segment of the population. The guy needs to get out more to experience more of the diversity of spirituality and agnosticism!
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 11:36 AM
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203. Did WAAAAAAY more harm than good for himself


Who knows? Maybe it was the President's plan all along..set the guy up to look like the fool he is - to the entire planet.

Error: You've already recommended that thread.
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