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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:28 PM
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No 11th hour pardons from Bush?
I was certainly expecting it. Is he really that deluded that everything he did was for the best, or is he planning the biggest ratfucking of all time?
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:30 PM
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1. it could be his way of getting back at Cheney
for getting him into this mess. So he leaves all Cheney's people not pardoned.
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shintao Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:33 PM
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4. I don't think so
His dad would kick his arse. If he pardoned cheney it would be an admittance of guilt that they know what they did was unlawful. So he butters up Obama just in case.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:30 PM
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2. Gives himself "Term-limit Pardon."
:wow:
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shintao Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:31 PM
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3. What I gather
I understand he pardoned himself in 2005 for the torture(?) Of course he cannot pardon himself from 23 murders of POW, nor from International courts who want his bippy, nor from civilian lawsuits. IMO

And he prolly said ,,,, the rest of them, they were all criminals!!! LMAO!
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Venceremos Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:34 PM
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5. I wasn't surprised.
Bush has always been light on the pardons. In refusing presidential pardons, he gave the same explanation since his days as Texas governor when he refused to commute death sentences: the people requesting a pardon or commutation were "convicted by a jury of their peers".
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:36 PM
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6. I've been wondering that too.....
unusually quite in the media.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:47 PM
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7. If pardoned...
....you can't take the Fifth -- you have to testify, because you can no longer incriminate yourself. This is a way of keeping mouths shut. They anticipate being prosecuted, and are muzzling witnesses by not pardoning them.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:48 PM
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8. So looks like Edwards will die in prison. No one expects Obama with all his

ethics, ethics, ethics, bullshit is going to issue one for him.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 03:51 PM
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9. He signed an executive order giving him power to pardon them as an ex-president.
Or he gave them conditional pardons that don't go into effect unless they are convicted.

Or he put it out to them that if they squeal there is a hit squad to take them out.
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