Anti-California Bigot Amendment Leaders Acknowledge Their Poor Decisions...

[BlooInBloo]

It's good - and quite atypical of Americans - to admit their fuck ups, but I still wonder exactly what thought process led them to think that outsourcing their campaign to "political consultants" could possibly be a good thing?

wtf?


http://wockner.blogspot.com/2009/01/no-on-8-we-messed-up.html

"When I look at what was the biggest mistake, when I lie awake at night prepping my e-mails I'm going to send to all of you and I think about the biggest mistake that we made, it's that we've turned everything over to political experts and political consultants," said Equality California Executive Director Geoff Kors.
...
Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Center CEO Lorri Jean, another key member of the No on 8 leadership team, was similarly forthcoming.
"How could we have realized earlier that professional, high-paid consultants were not delivering product?" Jean asked.

Are you fucking kidding me, Lorri? How could you fucking NOT have realized that?

And finally, now that we've already had the complete debunking of the "it was black folks' fault" lie, we have this nice little gem:

"Communities of color made gestures to the No on 8 campaign to help and they were not well-received -- Latino groups and some black groups," he said. "I don't think we took full advantage of the blogosphere or the ethnic press and those are very, very powerful today.

Sheesh.

You fucking pieces of shit - Mendaciously blaming black folks for the very wrong you yourselves were committing.


Post-mortems are always fun & painful. :)



EDIT: Subject typo.

EDITEDIT: The "we told black/latino groups wanting to help to fuck off" quote was just too much to leave out.

[Initech]

1. I hope they regret their decision every fucking day.

[BlooInBloo]

3. I don't know that vindictiveness is called for here. They're stupid, not malicious...

I can't imagine I would allow them anywhere near a future campaign, however - without a mountain of tangible evidence that they had completely internalized the lessons.

Good intentions + zero implementation skills = big fat fucking nothing.

[ronnykmarshall]

7. I'd like my money back.

What the hell did they do with all the money we raised?

[BlooInBloo]

8. Looks like they pissed it away to consultants, and then blamed black folks to cover their asses...

It's really standard procedure, I suppose. I don't know why I'm so shocked by this.

[ikojo]

2. Instead of listening to the people on the ground

they turned to the overpaid "professional class." Change rarely if ever comes from the top, but rather from the bottom.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

4. My b/f and I often joke that we should start a political consulting firm

Seems there is a tidy sum of money to be made by fucking up campaigns.

[dsc]

5. As I wrote repeatedly and was called a bigot for saying so, we didn't target minorities, especially

blacks at all and paid the price. We should have had ads running on black stations pointing out the horrible record that Mormons have toward blacks. We should have driven home the point that we wouldn't be the last target of these hateful bigots. Instead we ran ads which were intended to make people feel good. It was dumb. Showing gay couples would have been a disaster.

[BlooInBloo]

6. As these little drip-drips come out, I become more and more grateful...

That my job is NOT something like Director Of Convincing Black Folks To Support Gay Folks.

With a chronology resembling the following, I couldn't in good conscience keep that job at this moment.

1) Black/latino groups offer to help block the California Bigot Amendment.
2) The white gay leaders tell them to fuck off.
3) The California Bigot Amendment passes.
4) White gay folks blame black folks, calling black folks civil rights hypocrites (among other things).
5) The claims made by the white gay blamers are completely debunked.
6) The white gay leadership of the campaign acknowledge black and latino groups offers of help, and being told to fuck off.


That's just evil.

[dsc]

9. Find one place, just one, where I blamed blacks

I want a link with the words "I blame blacks" or equivalent. What is evil, your words, is calling people bigots for your delusional fantasies about what they said. But the simple fact is that blacks and hispanics did vote for this more than other groups, they did, even the study after the fact shows that. I think, as I stated over and over again at the time, we ignored blacks and to a lesser extent hispanics at our peril. It isn't racist to point out that simple fact. I do find it problematic, at the best, that 59% percent of blacks voted to take away marriage rights on the same day that 70% of gays voted for Obama and we get called racist.

[BlooInBloo]

10. :) Well then I guess we're *all* glad I don't have that particular job....

(shrug) There'll be a next time for gay marriage in California. Hopefully their leadership will acquit themselves somewhat better on all counts, and that will carry down to the voters themselves via the groups that offer assistance, and other avenues.