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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:02 PM
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Death Wish

The usual collection of Republicans Who Truly Don't Like Americans are assembled once again, this time to do as much damage as they can to Obama's plan to rescue the economy from George W. Bush's eight years of violence and neglect. Republicans - as the Pigman so aptly put it on his radio program - really do want to see Barack Obama (and the nation) fail.

Leading the assault on recovery from the House side is the execrable John Boehner who represents a district in a state - Ohio - that is rapidly sinking under an ever-increasing tide of foreclosures, bankruptcies, disappearing jobs, and rising desperation. All of that seems to slide right by this ignorant bastard and you have to wonder why his constituents insist on his kind of representation. But, of course, if that's what they want, by god Boehner is the man to give it to them.

The Republican Bullshit Machine is running 24/7, spewing lies and cheap shots like so many Oxycontins dribbling from Rush Limbaugh's drug-addled, porcine mouth. In addition to the Pigman, the so-called Mainstream Media is having great fun once again insisting there is equivalence in the plans put forth by Obama and the sick gibbering coming from Republicans. (Didn't MSNBC and CNN, et al, do enough of that during Bush's utterly failed presidency? Equating Bush's incoherent babbling with Democratic attempts to resist policies designed to fail. Shouldn't they stop?)

Last week the Center for American Progress Action Fund issued a report titled "Right-Wing Myths About The Stimulus." (My only complaint is the use of the term "right-wing." The Republican Party has no "right-wing." It is "right-wing" in its entirety.) Among the report's conclusion:

Republican Lie #1: SPENDING IS NOT STIMULATIVE: In response to the stimulus plan, conservatives on the House Budget Committee released a report stating that the proposal "pours taxpayers' money" into projects, "many of which may be worthy in themselves, but have little to do with 'stimulating' the economy." Harvard professor Robert Barro derided the plan as "voodoo economics," while right-wing pundit Michelle Malkin claimed that it will "at most be useless." However, an analysis by Moody's Economy.com found that government spending results in more significant "bang for the buck." For every dollar invested in specific types of spending, the boost in real GDP is more than $1.30. The most benefit comes from extending unemployment benefits ($1.64) and increasing food stamps ($1.73), but strong returns result from infrastructure investment ($1.59) and aid to state and local governments ($1.36), as well. Furthermore, Moody's also noted, "A well-timed, targeted, and temporary stimulus could in fact cost the Treasury less in the long run, since a debilitating recession would severely undermine tax revenues and prompt more government spending for longer." Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's and former adviser to Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) presidential campaign, released his analysis of the House plan on Wednesday, and concluded that it would "provide a vital boost to the flagging economy," without which full employment would not return until 2014.

Republican Lie #2: The STIMULUS WON'T CREATE JOBS: Last week, Boehner claimed, "When it comes to slow-moving government spending programs, it's clear that it doesn't create the jobs or preserve the jobs that need to happen." Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney said that "even if consumption were to bump up, it would not lead businesses to expand and to add jobs." However, as former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich explained, "The stimulus plan will create jobs repairing and upgrading the nation's roads, bridges, ports, levees, water and sewage system, public-transit systems, electricity grid, and schools." It stands to reason that investing in infrastructure is going to lead to job creation, as someone needs to be hired to actually complete the various projects. By investing $100 billion in clean energy infrastructure alone, the Center for American Progress (CAP) has estimated that 2 million jobs can be created in the next two years. Aid to states through bolstering Medicaid also "generates business and gets people into jobs," as a recent report by Families USA showed: "The new dollars pass from one person to another in successive rounds of spending, generating additional business activity, jobs, and wages that would not otherwise be produced." Council of Economic Advisers Chairman Christina Romer and Vice President Biden aide Jared Bernstein, meanwhile -- by using the "1% of GDP equals 1 million jobs rule of thumb" -- estimated that a stimulus plan will create or save three million jobs. According to their calculations, "30% of the jobs created will be in construction and manufacturing," while "the other two significant sectors that are disproportionately represented in job creation are retail trade and leisure and hospitality."

And saving the biggest pile of steaming Republican bullshit for last,

Republican Lie #3: PERMANENT TAX CUTS ARE THE BEST STIMULUS: The only stimulus idea that conservatives are wholeheartedly supporting is permanent tax cuts. At a hearing before the RSC, Romney, former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, and Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist all claimed that the stimulus should include permanent corporate tax cuts, while Barro claimed that fully "eliminating the federal corporate income tax would be brilliant." But CAP'sWill Straw explained, "The track record for such steps is poor in general, but they are particularly ill-suited for a recessionary period. After all, the reason that businesses and individuals are not investing at the moment has little to do with the taxes they may pay in the future and everything to do with a fear of losing money because there is no demand in the economy." The Heritage Foundation, meanwhile, proposed an "alternative" to the House stimulus: "permanent tax reductions such as the ones Congress passed in 2003." "Tax cuts like those have a proven track record of encouraging economic growth," wrote Heritage. But this is simply the same supply-side approach adopted by the Bush administration, and the evidence that it helps economic growth is "weak at best." An analysis by the Center for American Progress Action Fund shows that every $10 billion spent on this kind of cut would create or save just 10,000 jobs, "versus nearly 60,000 jobs which could be created or saved by extending unemployment benefits and food stamps or investing directly in energy, transportation and education infrastructure." Furthermore, permanent measures will exacerbate the long-term debt much more than temporary measures will.

Once again - always - the biggest threat to this nation's future, its families, its security, its progress, its attempt to establish an ethical center, its morality and its decency is the Republican Party and its deeply entrenched media propaganda machine.

Surely to god we've finally figured that out, right?

- MDM

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:02 PM
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1. Checking In...
Hi ralps. :hi: Hello Everyone. :hi:

:grouphug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:04 PM
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3. Hi Liberal_Dog, You're 1st
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:05 PM
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5. Hi Liberal_Dog!
:hi: :hu:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:06 PM
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7. Hi smokey nj
:fistbump:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:03 PM
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2. Hi ralps and my fellow truthseekers!
:hi: :grouphug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:05 PM
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4. Hi smokey nj, Crook & I are doing good! How are you all doing?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:06 PM
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8. Hey ralps!
:hi: :hug:
We're all hanging in there thanks! Big :hug:s for you and my fuzzy buddy Crook! Please give him lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ Boyz!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:14 PM
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11. I sure will! & please give your kitties Lots of scritches & tummy rubs from me!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:16 PM
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15. Will do, ralps!
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:05 PM
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6. Hello Truthseekers!!! The GOP should prosecuted under RICO
but then again I'm just a peasant. I hope all of you had a great weekend!:hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:06 PM
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9. Hi MikeNearMcChord!
:hi: :hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:14 PM
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12. Hi MikeNearMcChord! Mine was good, How was yours?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:28 PM
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21. why are the Dems trying to play nice with the repigs, how stupid
we are the majority!! :hi:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:11 PM
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10. Hi ralps ! Hi Truthseekers ! Hey Hey trying out my new name

well, it's shorter! :hi: :hug:

:grouphug:

Hope everyone is well.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:15 PM
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13. Hi MzNov!
:hi: :hug:
Not you too?! How are you and the fuzz crew doing tonight? Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches for and tummy rubs for everybody from me, Edie and the NJ Boyz! Can I still call you Ms. November?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:35 PM
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31. Hi smokey nj !

:hi: :hug:

OY, me too. Just love that letter "z" :rofl:

Of course you can still call me Ms. November. I kind of miss it :-) Too late now.

We're all fine. How are you and the NJ Gang? Big smooches and kitty hugs for the Boyz and Edit! from the CA cuzzes!

:loveya:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:38 PM
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39. We're all doing well, thanks!
Edie and the boyz thank the cuzzes for the smooches and hugs! I just need a little time to get used to the new name. I appreciate that you didn't change it to something completely different, I almost didn't recognize catnapper/spiderpig! :rofl:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:16 PM
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14. Hi MzNov, how are you all doing? Crook & I are doing good! Cool name!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:36 PM
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35. Hi ralps!

:hi: :hug:

Hugs to Crook! :bounce:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:22 PM
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18. Me likey. The easier to Text u with!
:hi::hug::fistbump:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:39 PM
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41. Hi spiderpig catnapper!

:hi: :hug:

How was the thing? Hope you had a great time!

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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:03 PM
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44. It was fun and the food was great!
Wish you could have joined us :( but I hope you had a good time with your friend!:hug:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:15 PM
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46. Woo Hoo !!

I'm so glad. My friend left this morning! We had a great time. :bounce:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:29 PM
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23. hi mznov!!!
I like it.:hi:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:37 PM
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36. Hi alyce douglas! bdamomma!

:hi: :hug:

Thanks!

What does your name mean now?

:bounce:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:15 PM
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47. .........
it is an abbreviation.
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:36 PM
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34. Hi MzNov
:fistbump:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:37 PM
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38. Hi Liberal_Dog !

:hi: :hug:


:fistbump:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:19 PM
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16. Hi Truthseekers, ralps & Crook. How ya doin?
:hi::fistbump::bounce:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:21 PM
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17. Hi catnapperspiderpig!
:hi: :hug:
How are you, Mr. cnsp, and the fuzzie doing tonight? Big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ Boyz!
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:26 PM
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19. Hi spiderpig!, Crook & I are doing good, How are you all doing?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:32 PM
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26. Hi there ralps & Crook - keeping warm?
:hi::hug::scared:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:36 PM
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33. Sort of! I've stayed in all day!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:37 PM
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37. Hi spiderpig
:fistbump:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:27 PM
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20. hey ralps!!!!
how is everyone tonite? I would be better if I didn't listen to the news about the stupid repigs!:hi:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:28 PM
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22. Hi alyce bdamomma!
:hi: :hug:
How are you and my gorgeous fuzzy pal Chloe doing tonight? Please give her big :hug:s and lots of ear scratches and tummy rubs from me, Edie and the NJ Boyz!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:33 PM
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28. hey smokey!!!
how are you? is Mr. Smokey home from Boston? Chloe is fine.:hi: give your edie and nj boyz head squeezes from me.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:39 PM
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40. I'm doing well, thanks!
Mr. smokey got home last night. Edie and the boyz thank you for the squeezes!
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:30 PM
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24. All is well in this household.
Gosh, of all the new user names, yours is the hardest to get used to. Guess because the other was so personal.:hi::hug:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:31 PM
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Hi bdamomma
:fistbump:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:35 PM
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32. hey liberal dog!!!
:fistbump:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:32 PM
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27. Hi bdamomma, Crook & I are doing good, how are you all doing?
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:31 PM
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25. Personally I hope some of the more moderate Republicans like Olympia Snowe
see how bad sticking w/ Bush & The Rw Repukes will be & Join the Democrats! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:33 PM
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29. I don't care if they stay with the pukes as long as they don't participate in any filibusters.
But we know we can always count on Joe LIEberman, Mary Landrieu and the other consistant disappointments to side with the pukes anyway so I don't know how much it will matter.
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spiderpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:34 PM
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30. Wouldn't it be nice if we could get #60 before the 2010 elections?
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:45 PM
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42. Hey!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:46 PM
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43. Hi liberal1973
:hi::hug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:26 PM
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52. Hi liberal1973
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:12 PM
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45. hi liberal1973!!!
:hi:
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:19 PM
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48. Hey
Hey badamomma
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:21 PM
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49. Hi Truthseekers..... Mike says Obama is smarter than he is
How refreshing he says and I agree





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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:24 PM
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50. Hi Ichingcarpenter!
:hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:26 PM
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53. Hi smokey nj
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:25 PM
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51. hi Ichingcarpenter!!!
:hi: :hug:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:28 PM
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54. Hi bdamomma!


Funky but cool new name why did you change it?
I always look at your posts in threads.

Gonna have to remember your new name now.....



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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:28 PM
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55. Hi Ichingcarpenter, LOL Great cartoon!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :rofl:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:30 PM
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56. Hi ralps!

Thanks

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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:43 PM
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57. Here are today's LOL Kitties!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:45 PM
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58. Thanks for the links, ralps!
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:46 PM
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59. Good night truthseekers, have a great one tomorrow!
:grouphug:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:47 PM
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60. Good Night smokey nj, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:56 PM
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61. night smokey have a good one tomorrow.
I think I am checking out too, nite you guys take care and keep it lit.

one favor: call arlen specter's office and tell them to stop holding the confirmation of Eric Holder.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:01 PM
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63. Good Night bdamomma, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:56 PM
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62. Do you think AP radio news will report the real job loses today?

Its suppose to be 85,000 for today. Or will they mention it at all?

Any bets before the hour?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:02 PM
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64. They said 40,000 ..........
I knew it
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liberal1973 Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:13 PM
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65. Mike is kicking ass tonight
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:58 PM
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66. Good Night Everyone, Have a great day Tomorrow, Take Care & Keep It Lit!!
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