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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:53 PM Original message |
Does anyone believe we have the capability to eliminate or defeat al-Qaeda in Afghanistan/Pakistan? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, we did |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I highly doubt that Bin Ladin had anything to do with 911. n/t |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Oh god, this crap again |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Theres absolutely no proof what so ever that Bin Laden had anything to do... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well Bin Laden himself claimed responsibility |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Why isn't Bin Laden wanted by the FBI for 9/11? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. FBI is only concerned with Domestic Criminals |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Bin Laden is actually wanted by the FBI |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. And you can't tell me he wasn't behind THOSE |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. No Proof |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I remember the tapes, but who really knows where they came from.... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Bin Laden is dead |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. That doesn't prove he didn't do it |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. GW Bush obviously would not have personally done it, but between he and... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Every account of the Bush admin shows utter incompetence |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Indeed, bin Ladin clearly denied responsibility for 911 |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. And we know this is authentic....how??? |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Because the reporter asked him. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Well the bombing of Afghanistan has nothing to do with Bin Laden innocence or guilt |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. May I see that EVIDENCE? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Do you understand how terrorist cells are organized, Bin Laden probably didn't have advance... |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I would say that I don't believe the current official version of 911 either.... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. I believe the Bush administration was, at most, LIHOP... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. At most, but there is a good enough case for incompetence |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. The official version is full of holes |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. The reason to think Bin Laden wasn't behind the attacks is very simple... |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. We wouldn't have to defeat these Islamic extremists, if only we were still paying for them. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. That's how I figured we'd do it from the get go. |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. I guess we can always ask the Russians that question, and they will... |
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grannie4peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. i think that could happen |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. defeat/kill al quaida? absolutely. build a democratic state like dumbass |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. i think President Obama is still evaluating his military options and all the repercussions |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Obama has never had a military option in a vaccum. He wants diplomatic means |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. We have the ability to contain them |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. no. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. Is it al-Qaeda or the Taliban that we are really going after? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. It looks like our forces are mostly arrayed against resistance to the government we helped install |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. Do we have the capability? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. There has always been a "law of war" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. you mean if we just avert our eyes |
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PDJane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. No. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. We did. I have no idea - all these years hence - if we still do. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. Bombing Afghanistan back to the stone-age... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. we create al-Qaeda in Afghanistan & Pakistan |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. No, its like trying to eliminate the Mafia with the Military, ask Mussolini how that worked out... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Agreed. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Hell, most likely they would use the al-Qaeda name... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. Dupe |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. High altitude mountain warfare is unwinnable for the agressor. |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
24. We will Defeat Evil, I know this because our Government says we can do it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. No I guess I really don't |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. no. bring the troops home. n/t |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Didn't the CIA CREATE al-Qaeda in Afghanistan/Pakistan -- to fight the Soviets? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. I think that the Obama administration |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I heard the president remark yesterday |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. This thread is entertaining!!! |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
56. One word answer. NO |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. Honest question here...What about India? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. no one really wants to contemplate that |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Perhaps if the ISI and the military were convinced that the ... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. the Pakistani president is so new |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Indeed... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
60. Military solutions to social, financial & cultural problems on foreign |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Exactly |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
61. Is the Democratic motto now, "We have to fight them there so we don't have to fight them here?" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. unclench your fist and they'll extend their hand |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. The "land of the free and home of the brave" is too frightened to unclench it's fist. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
65. We definitely have the capability... |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
70. No outside power has won a war in Afghanistan since Alexander the Great and that's because |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-09 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
71. We can't do it with current strategy, and/or without the help of Pakistan |
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