Porn interrupts Super Bowl TV coverage

[napi21]

Shortly after 7.30pm, with less than three minutes to play in a tightly fought final, the Cardinals had taken the lead with a crucial touchdown. Fans watching in Arizona would have been forgiven for scenting a victory for their team against the odds. Then the pictures from Tampa disappeared.

Instead, viewers in the Tuscon area were astonished to see a woman unzipping a man's trousers to reveal "full male nudity" followed by what was described as "a graphic act" between the couple. Somehow, the feed from Super Bowl XLIII had been mixed up with a 30-second excerpt from Club Jenna, an adult cable TV channel featuring Jenna Jameson, one of America's most famous porn actresses.

"I just figured it was another commercial until I looked up," Cora King, of Marana, told the Arizona Daily Star newspaper. "Then he did his little dance with everything hanging out."

Another viewer, Jeanene Piek, said she was outraged that her granddaughter had seen the clip. "I was in a state of shock. I am totally disgusted," she said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/02/superbowl-porn-arizona

Gee, I wonder if the FCC will fine Comcast?????

[liberal N proud]

1. Damn, Time Warner didn't do that

:rofl:

[TechBear_Seattle]

2. The FCC cannot fine Comcast

As the Federal Communications Commission has jurisdiction only over broadcasts, not cable.

[napi21]

7. I THINK this WAS aired on broadcast TV. It was simply the feed

was through Comcast. I'm not in Az. but I know I watched the Superbowl on a regular broadcast channel, even though all of my channels come through Charter Cable.

[santamargarita]

3. At least Tucson, Arizona got something out of the game

~

[Ken Burch]

4. I wonder if more people will SUBSCRIBE to Comcast????

And I'm sure those womens' husbands were deeply offended...as long as they knew their wives were in earshot.

[Bill219]

5. everyone should write Arlen Spectre

and complain seeing he is in the pocket of Comcast

[Ken Burch]

54. He'll conclude it was one tape switcher, acting alone.

n/t.

[YOY]

6. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

n/t

[seabeyond]

12. right

cause we argue, leave porn alone cause it is for mature adults. no problem at all feeding the adult porn world to our children, huh?

[YOY]

16. It won't destroy them, but is inappropriate. You misunderstand what I'm harping on.

Explaining sex to kids is something we shirk away from as a cultural view of it being "dirty" or "unacceptable" giving it an "X" rating, yet violence is seen as "PG-13" or "R" at worst.

Frankly Seabeyond, nobody gets hurt by sex. Violence however is something I would prefer to shield my child from far more. Of course nobody should force a kid to watch porn and treat it as the norm, but a responsible adult can explain things t

I find it much more difficult to explain violence to kids. If my daughter happened to watch a few minute of the recent trend of horror film called "Gore Porn"...I really don't want to explain just why those people were doing that to each other.

It's a strange case of our culture accepting one over the other despite one being truly despicable and the other being a biological function.

[seabeyond]

23. violence is an easy understanding for children, .... wrong. simple as that

there is no contradiction or hypocrisy or anything else. violence hurts. is wrong. dont do it. period the end, easy to teach

sex on the other hand is the best, is a good thing, we want our children as they grow to be healthy and have a healthy journey on their own personal exploration of sex. what we do is feed them with contradictions, the unhealthy of the adult worlds sex, perversion, abuse.... all tied into the nifty of sex

you tell me that you would rather you child see sex in all the fucked up manner us adults have made it and in all the childrens instinct of puberty exploring sexuality, in their immaturity it is much easier for them to handle?

i disagree with you

[YOY]

39. Depends on what they are showing. Is it two adults simply having sex?

I could explain that easily. I don't think that's vulgar at all. Most of the adult entertainment one stumbles upon is pretty "vanilla".

Is it some kinky fetish thing? I can't explain that easily.

Agreed about the violence, but why is it so much easier to show to children as a norm. Even the heroes in such films use violence as a means to an end. I don't think it's always as easy to explain as you make it. It is presented far more readily as acceptable.

While I am not, in any way shape or form, saying that it is "A-OK" to let children watch porn purposefully, it won't destroy their minds if they happen to see it accidentally. In such a broad sweep to conceal the existence of sex we can lead to treating it as a completely taboo subject we risk the chance of creating repression when it come time to explore those urges without a mature explanation that can make one shove all reason and engage in some risky behavior.

When we repress Some of the most bizarre fetish come from sexually repressed cultures. Take the Japanese for example. If an "closer to home" example of sexual repression leading to a bad end, take the teen abstinence "celibacy vow" dealie as of recent. It has led to more teen pregnancies than those with a simple sex education and no silly vows.

It's quite OK to disagree here with me Seabeyond. You have my respect already and I'm not going to fly off the handle.

[seabeyond]

44. but this is in the parenting and we pretty much agree, in this culture today, so many lack

in parenting.

when kids were very young i would not let them watch power girls, ed ed and eddy, spongebob and other shows. and i clearly and often told them.... you have super hero girls when even happy have an angry and aggressive face. it is a conditioning. the other shows are about embracing stupid, and i refuse stupid in this house. no angry and no stupid at their very young age.

again, it is not hard to teach the children these things when there is a mutual respect and listening and talking. so i agree, there can be an issue with all the violence on tv if a parent does nothing to combat it. but then that is a parents job

we are actually having discussions on this board that adult sex world is good for our children, who are not adult, who are not mature, who are clueless, because there are parent that do not parent with sexuality.

in our house nudity is natural. not a thought. when boys were young i couldn't get clothes on their body in the summer days in our back yard. and sometimes in the front yard, lol. i had taken so many pictures of my oldest child without a thought, until mother in law asked if i would please raise the camera a bit. hadn't even triggered in my brain. we have talked and been open about sex and all the different angles from the beginning of these conceptions in my sons heads. i had to spend three months on wet dream experiences with my oldest, and i really didn't want to participate, but.... he trusts me most with theses personal issues.

what i have clearly impressed on my children is the inundation of the adult porn world contaminating, literally, there own pure exploration of age appropriate sexuality of their own journey.

i am watching a lot of children around me being raised on porn, calenders of girls legs spread on their kitchen wall cause the man wants to control the women, humiliate her to lose weight, and any other number of ways to retard our children's sexuality.

as much as i hate in this fundie world oppressing the sexual drive of children in sin and seeing the mess it creates (and i experience it often in my area) i equally am pissed at the lets sexualize our 10 yr old girls. because after all they need to learn about sex and parent isn't going to be there.

and thank you being able to discuss differing view without dismissing or name calling or any number of ways this subject digresses.

[YOY]

46. It seems like a strong concern of yours (rightly so) is the degradation of women.

Granted mine is only 2 but I'm trying my part to make sure she'll grow into a woman (even at this stage) like her mommy: strong minded and independent women don't let themselves be treated like garbage but at the same time have no problem being a woman or enjoying her life. I have this funny rule about "princesses" but I digress... IMHO, the important parental lessons here transgress sexuality and go into the 2 topics. The first being "respect": both for oneself and for others. The second being not letting the images fluttering into our kids minds (whether we stop them or not) and their ability to separate fantasy from reality.

Yes, the sexualization of kids is disgusting, you have an agreement here. Some of those outfits I've seen make me want to tell who ever is putting this trend on to just let the kids just enjoy their childhood for crying out loud.

Just aside the debate here is an interesting observation:

I see we are coming at this from two different directions, not opposite but polar none-the-less: A woman on raising her boys and a man raising girl. I didn't consider how I would explain this to a son as I have no son (yet). Interesting that one should (and I believe that one should due to obvious differences in male versus female sexuality) tailor the discussion. When I put your situation in mind some factors change. I am sure your husband and my wife have slight differences with our own (spoken or not.)

I've a decent idea of where your coming from. You've always been cool with me so why would I call you names? Often times we forget that the other person on the other end of the internet is a real person. A few DUers here could stand some reminding.

[seabeyond]

57. ah the joys

it is interesting, father/daughter/.... mother/sons. yup. lol.

my boys are 11 and working on 14. middle school. a tough time. all i am hearing. i didnt have to think about it at all when they were two. things are different now

i ahve a thing about the princesses thing too.... lol lol. i wonder if they are about the same. lol. i would really be a lot harder on a girl than i am on boys. i think it is probably a good thing i had two boys. BUT there is nothing more special than a father daughter relationship. that is something i do wish my husband was able to enjoy. dads are so very important to the little girl. he is going ot be the one that establishes how she sees herself with the other gender. the father has her until 7, 8, 9.

:toast:

[iamthebandfanman]

25. well i mean, its not like they could just

come on the internet and click a button to see much worse...

[seabeyond]

27. are you suggesting porn is no longer for the adult and should be accessible to all people

including the children?

[iamthebandfanman]

28. no, im suggesting it already is that way.

so why the bing stink over an accident?

[seabeyond]

29. the bing stink is the sarcasm that we feel a need not to feed porn to our children.

i guess you have no concern that our children is fed porn on a regular basis.

[iamthebandfanman]

30. of course i dont

but do you intend to shut down all the internet websites with pornography?
if not, stopping it on TV isnt preventing children from viewing it.

what happened was an accident. sure, someone should be held responsible for it... but lets not act like this one incident has morally corrupted the nations youth when at any time of the day i can go click 'yes im 18' and view any kind of hardcore porn i want.

[seabeyond]

33. my comment was not on what happened in pheonix. it was to a person

suggesting it is nothing for a child to watch porn. what is the worry. what is the concern. where is the deal.

[iamthebandfanman]

36. i dunno if its 'nothing'

but i do know from my own personal experience, as i watched my first porn at 6-7 years old, that it hasnt affected me in any way...
heck i even waited til 18 before i lost my virignity(not that i had tons of offers, but i did have a few that i turned down)..

so, i was able to completely keep my morality even tho i saw sexually explicit things from an early age...

obviously not everyones me tho, so i guess itd impact everyone a little different.

my point was just that kids can watch porn anytime they want when you arent around... be thankful they got a glimps with you around to explain it ;)

[seabeyond]

38. you advocate porn for our 6-7 yr olds? n/t

[deaniac21]

66. Well, I'll tell you this from the bottom of my heart, Broadway Joe

is still very fuckable ;-)

[LisaL]

19. Yes someone should think of the children.

Do you think it's appropriate for children to watch porn?

[YOY]

20. Yes, they should be forced to do so.

:sarcasm:

See my reply to Seabeyond.

[Ken Burch]

8. Wow...this is the exact opposite of the 1968 "Heidi Game"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Game

[renate]

32. you're right... that's pretty funny! n/t

[JackRiddler]

48. LOL

[MineralMan]

9. Oopsie! Looks like there will be a job opening

there at Comcast, so there's some good news that comes out of it.

[agent46]

10. Just a wardrobe malfunction

Nothing to worry about.
:evilgrin:

[Ezlivin]

11. That's one hell of a half-time show!

How big does it look to you on a 73" HDTV?

[NashVegas]

15. This Didn't Make It To the HD Channel

Poor dears.

[L0oniX]

13. So was there a replay of the fowl?

[47of74]

14. Add Google flagging the whole internet as malware...

...and there's something strange going on.

[lonestarnot]

17. wOOpsie!

:rofl:

[LisaL]

18. Looks like somebody should loose his or her job.

[Javaman]

40. what needs to be asked are a couple of questions...

1) does that station also handle the downlink for Jenna's show? if so, then it could be something as simple as a bad switch. aka someone pushed the wrong button.

2) if they don't air that show, then why was it part of their downlink? (this is the term used when a station receives a signal from the satellite) One has to get confirmation from their headend (sort of a relay point for sat signals) to receive the downlink.

3) if they didn't carry it and it was in their downlink, why were they monitoring it?
no reason for them to be carrying superfluous programming.

I used to work in a TV control room years ago, the last thing we ever wanted was useless crap on one of the monitors.

[Occam Bandage]

21. If anyone wants to see what AZ viewers saw, here you go (completely unsafe for work.)

(And also, really, really funny.)

http://www.comcastsuperbowlporn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/comcast-super-bowl.mp4

[Ken Burch]

53. Occam, what do the Chinese characters at the bottom of your post say?

You can PM me on it if you'd rather not mention it in the thread.

Thanks.

[Occam Bandage]

55. "I am a spy. Don't tell anyone." nt

[itsrobert]

64. Just after they go back to the game

John Madden says, "The perfect guy, in the perfect situation."

[guitar man]

22. oops

If I'm not mistaken, Comcast uses a Harris (Louth) automation system, which is what I was using in my last gig working in master control. Depending on their switcher and routing options, a couple of different things could have happened, but based on experience, this is the most likely scenario:

If the operator had Club Jenna punched up on the preview monitor so he could watch it, and the Super bowl was about to switch into a commercial break, the preview monitor would switch to the commercial source as soon as the "preroll" count started on the commercial event in the stack list. If the operator switched the preview bus back to the Club Jenna source after the preroll started but before the next event (commercial started) the automated switching could automatically take the event punched up on the preview bus (Club Jenna) to air instead of the event in the stack list (commercial).

In other words, the commercial rolling up may have interrupted his viewing of Club Jenna and he instinctively hit the wrong button at the wrong time. That may or may not have been what actually happened, but my gut and years of sitting behind a board in a broadcast control room gives me a pretty good sneaking suspicion about it. :P

[hunter]

41. When I was doing television stuff back when the dinosaurs still roamed...

... you never put anything that wasn't in the programming up on the preview monitors because everyone knew someone who had screwed up doing that.

We always had a plain old television set in view, entirely seperate from the board.

When I first started working in small town cable we used to get The Movie Channel on video tapes. The machines and tapes sometimes had to be fussed with, and for too long we had one machine that wouldn't start happily unless you pushed lightly on the corner of the cassette carrier as it loaded.

If there was some screw up on a popular movie the phones would start ringing instantly. I also remember accidently stacking some public access stuff incorrectly one night and nobody called, and I doubt anybody ever noticed. But it hung over me for about a week like a black cloud on my conscience because I was young and stupid and decided not to tell anyone about it. Looking back my boss probably would have laughed.

[guitar man]

43. exactly

never, ever, ever punch up or patch anything to preview that you don't want going to air, because it will end up doing exactly that sooner or later ;P

I know what you mean about the tape machine, had a 3/4" that operated pretty much as you described,there was a label my supervisor put on the deck that said "push here and hold your mouth just right to load tape" :D

[iamthebandfanman]

24. i dont believe this story!

they should probably show me a video clip to confirm it happened ;)

[Hugabear]

31. See post #21

Someone already posted a clip. Don't expect it to stay there very long though.

[iamthebandfanman]

37. wow of all the things that could been shown

that involved porn
that was probably one of the funniest.

[deaniac21]

26. But the porn was followed up with beauty!

[Dr.Phool]

35. It was still porn. The Cardinals got fucked!

[deaniac21]

51. Ah, you must be referring to the spanking administered by the

STEELERS!

[JackRiddler]

50. Don't forget the Beast

[asdjrocky]

34. First rule of Project Mayhem?

[radfringe]

42. gives a whole new meaning to the term "TOUCH DOWN"...n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. "Go Deep!!!!!! Go Deep!!!!!!!!"

[Celeborn Skywalker]

63. Lol!

Kinda gives new meaning to that phrase, doesn't it?

[hedgehog]

47. All kidding and all arguing about porn and the availability of porn aside,

people were watching the football game with the reasonable expectation of seeing a football game and some (possibly off-color) new commercials. If someone deliberately broadcast some porn, how is that different from the flasher in the park? If this was deliberate, wouldn't the motivation be much the same, to shock some and titillate others, perhaps even to show one's superiority in a natural accepting attitude toward sexuality?

[JackRiddler]

49. OMG, innocent children who just wanted to watch gladiatorial combats...

kicked off by the honorable General Petraeus and a military marching unit.

[deaniac21]

52. Hey, don't be like that. It wasn't those kids fault that the Jets and

Gaints sucked.

[JackRiddler]

56. The Giants never really suck -- the Jets invariably do (even the good seasons).

[deaniac21]

58. Not these Jets..........

http://www.geocities.com/[e-mail]/69jets2.jpeg

[JackRiddler]

59. You mean, the ones from prehistory?

Well, it is still considered the most important Super Bowl, albeit not the most exciting.

[deaniac21]

60. I resemble that remark!

[JackRiddler]

65. Hey, it's all good. Broadway Joe was my role model.

Which explains a lot!

[Morning Dew]

61. I didn't put my glasses on - I thought it was "Palin interrupts Super Bowl TV coverage"

yikes!

[Ptah]

62. Actress in Super Bowl porn clip understands Tucson parents' outrage

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/278718.php

The actress shown in the 30-second pornographic clip that interrupted
Comcast’s broadcast of the Super Bowl says she understands why many
Tucson-area parents are outraged.

“I have two kids myself, so I understand where they’re coming from,”
said 23-year-old Tristan Kingsley, the mother of a 4-year-old son
and a 3-year-old daughter. “I’ve read some comments that parents have
left on different blogging sites, and I can understand that they’d get a
little upset that their children might be watching it. I would never go and
put one of my videos on for my kids to watch.” . . .