Gore: "not hungering to ever be a candidate again and really DO NOT anticipate ANY circumstances..."

[Harper_is_Bush]

Gore: This really shouldn't be approached as a political issue. It has political dimensions; some of the solutions require action within the political system. But ultimately
it's a moral issue, it's an ethical issue,
it's almost a spiritual issue because it affects our survival: who are we,
what is our moral responsibility to those who come after us?
And the issue of how we solve it, how we can most effectively address it, we should debate that and talk about it. But what should change is the efforts of some who are intentionally trying to delay any reasoned debate by confusing the scientific evidence with, by putting out smokescreens and sort of pseudoscientific studies. I want to see the creation of a new political reality in America where the candidates in both political parties are competing among themselves to carry that mantle and to offer genuinely effective solutions. That's really the change that's needed.

snip..

GORE: It's nice when someone says that they think that about me and I do appreciate that. But I do not have any plans or intentions or expectations of it.
I've fallen out of love with politics. (laughs)
I'm not hungering to ever be a candidate again and really do not anticipate any circumstances under which I would be. But again, I'm involved in a different kind of campaign. It's an effort to try to persuade people about why and how, we must rise to the challenge, the most serious challenge our civilization has ever faced. And that's the focus of my efforts.

http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.htm?programID=07-P13-00003&segmentID=1

He has his priority, and he's working it. Thank God.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Wanna bet?

:)

[Harper_is_Bush]

4. They are his words....so bet him I guess

My only comment was that he has his priority and he's working it. That's not what you want to bet on though, is it.

[davidwparker]

5. If I got near Gore, I'd ask: "If you really believe what you have on those

slides about global warming, then you'd run. As president, you'd have the ability to make a change."

[NotGivingUp]

47. the president is beholding to the money that put shim into offfice. gore is effective in

what he's doing right now. you have no idea what it's like to be in his shoes anyway. 'If you really believe' sounds pretty confrontational to me....and not in a nice way.

[davidwparker]

70. 'If you really believe' - How about, "Put your money where your mouth is,

Mr. Gore."

A president isn't beholding to money, just the Constitution. Hasn't it been shown in past few elections cycles that small donations can be on equal footing with corporate donations? I think so.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

80. That's not asking, that's telling.

NT

[davidwparker]

83. OK. If I got near Al Gore, I would tell him ..... :-))

Until I see him, I just signed the draftgore petition which is an ad on this site.

[Harper_is_Bush]

129. That would be about the most ignorant and rude things anyone could say

to a man who has done what he has done thus far to save your planet.

[madokie]

48. I agree. it is in Big Al's best interest to Deny his candidacy up to and including the very last

day for filing and then and only then file at the very last moment. methinks

:hi:

Mr. Gore will be our next President, I'm convinced of that

[proud2BlibKansan]

58. Yep me too

He will run and he will win.

:hi:

[illinoisprogressive]

2. How sad. I was contemplating today while the MSM were coronating

Hillary if there was any way we could bribe Al for the sake of country...

[Harper_is_Bush]

7. Not sad. He's doing sacred work. Be joyous and help him....

the Dem Presidency will be won, and the winner will listen to Gore.

[Blue Belle]

34. I'm not counting out Al in this race just yet...

Hillary can have her early coronation, but we haven't had the Primaries yet. Things could get mighty interesting in the next few months.

[XemaSab]

3. Boooooo!

:(

[NinetySix]

6. Gore's contextual message:

"If you want me, then you're just gonna have to draft me."

Show of hands -- who here would like to have a statesman as the next President of the United States?

[Samantha]

8. We should just mount a write-in campaign

Take pledges from those willing to write him in whether he's on the ballot or not. He infers he does not want to run; he does not say he does not want to serve!

[pennylane100]

9. I would sign the pledge

and pledge as much money as I could afford.

[JaneQPublic]

13. www.draftgore.com

[RestoreGore]

60. www.climatecrisis.net

n/t

[RestoreGore]

62. You don't think he is serving now?

Amazing.

[Samantha]

151. The object of "to serve" is understood

to be "as President of the United States." Obviously I think he's "serving" now, but as we read George Bush* is planning to attack Iraq, I would rather he were campaigning in the political arena speaking out to the public what devestation such an attack will render. I would rather he were vocally (and publicly) opposing all of the Bush* policies most of us oppose.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

10. Quite frankly...

Any candidate already announced would have a hell of a hard time matching him in stature and gravitas.

[roamer65]

11. If he doesn't run, then I'll support John Edwards.

I think John would make a great president who would listen to Al and maybe even elevate him to the new cabinet position of Secretary of Environment.

I'm not going to count Gore out until he endorses another candidate, just like '04.

[pocoloco]

14. Well Hell, he listened to bush*, surely he would listen to Al

and God knows who else that came along!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

12. Gore's Own Trainees are asked: Should Al Gore run for president again?

DUNHAM: God, I hope so. If I could vote twice I would.

CODY: I absolutely think he should run for president again.

FRANK: I would be ecstatic if he ran again.

[Harper_is_Bush]

15. OMG, his OWN trainees?

LOL

[A-Schwarzenegger]

16. Do you post ANYTHING but threads against Gore running?

LOL backatcha.

[Harper_is_Bush]

17. This thread isn't against Gore running.

:wtf:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

19. Of course it is. As are these ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3136979&mesg_id=3136979

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2939734

[Harper_is_Bush]

21. This thread is Gore's own words. If you have so little respect for him

that you consider his words offensive, please do not post here. ty.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

22. LOFL. If you find my words offensive

simply because I point out youre on a mission against Gore running,
please save yourself the irkdom of reading my posts.

[Harper_is_Bush]

23. I don't find your words offensive at all. I find your behaviour disruptive and

insulting.

You are not free to stalk and harass people on this forum.

[NotGivingUp]

52. your words ARE offensive

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

27. Hammer, Meet Head Of Nail LOL

I really don't have much stake in this argument, but I still just had to give you some kudos for one hell of a good reply. I just got a huge kick out of it.

[RestoreGore]

57. Perhaps it is because some see the BIG PICTURE

As Mr. Gore does himself after beating his head against a brick wall in that BS political system you all whine about but still want him in in order to actually stifle the momentum he is now getting on this crisis. This isn't a GAME, this IS about our survival. Why does it really bother people so much that he may actually have finally found his calling and is doing something he truly believes is IMPORTANT because IT IS? I have NO FAITH in Capitol Hill doing anything of substance regarding this crisis THIS YEAR which will be a CRUCIAL year to take evasive action regarding the affects of climate change. So THANK GOD Mr. Gore is at last out here doing SOMETHING "politicians" only give PR lip service to. Too bad so many people would rather BS about him running than actually HELP HIM.

[Name removed]

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[Harper_is_Bush]

25. This is a "serious post". What about it do you consider not serious?

Is global warming not serious to you?

Are Gore's feelings about politics not serious to you?

[Blue Belle]

28. They are serious to me...

I am a big fan of Al Gore and the work he has done, and to be honest, the only one who knows Al Gore's feelings about politics is Al Gore - to claim you know otherwise is purely speculation. However, his politics or Global Warming is not the issue.

You seem to have a pattern of posting "PLEASE GOD DON'T LET AL GORE RUN" posts here which make people wonder about your motives. You never give a reasoned response for why you think he should not run, and since you aren't a US citizen and cannot vote in any election he should run in anyway, you're hard-lined stance just seems a little strange. Its not to say that citizens from other countries should not have an interest in our politics, or have a favorite political candidate - it just seems that everytime Al Gore's name gets thrown into the pool of presidential possibilities you postulate that the whole environmental movement would collapse if such an idea was entertained. Al Gore has always been a champion for the environment, and to think that his efforts would fall by the wayside should he be elected President speaks very highly of your faith in his leadership abilities.

[Harper_is_Bush]

32. I have no such pattern. Nor have I claimed I know Al Gore's feelings

And you are telling a host of lies and speculations about me. Please stop.

[Blue Belle]

33. Check post 19 in this thread...

then get back to me on how I was spreading lies and speculation about you. I think that anyone who has been paying attention to your posts can see the truth for themselves.

[Name removed]

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[Blue Belle]

41. Like I said... people just have to read your responses and learn the truth.

It hardly seems fair to give me the credit for swiftboating you when you've gone to so much trouble to do it yourself.

[NotGivingUp]

53. i've read his responses...i think you need to stop and think or else go back and read them again

[Blue Belle]

65. Thanks for sharing your opinion...

I'm sure your friend appreciates your support.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

75. Friends are important

especially in a storm.

[Blue Belle]

134. Right back at ya!

:hi:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

135. We were accused of being "sidekicks," you know.

Will we recover? Good to get to know you.
This thread served that purpose, if no other.

[Blue Belle]

141. They're on to us.... What will we do now??

We must come up with a contrived plan to infiltrate another "Please Gore Don't Run" thread and do draftgore.com's bidding!

Good to get to know you!

--Belle

[A-Schwarzenegger]

144. I'm actually growing fond of ol' Harper.

:)

[Blue Belle]

147. I know...

;)

[NotGivingUp]

85. don't know him/her from nowhere...think what you want...i just call 'em as i see 'em

[Blue Belle]

87. Good for you.

I'll do the same.

[NotGivingUp]

56. i'm getting back to you...and you're wrong....harper's posts have been all in praise of al gore

for all that he has done.

[Harper_is_Bush]

63. Thankyou. n/t

[Blue Belle]

66. Yes they have been praises for Gore...

No one has argued that.

[NotGivingUp]

51. harper hasn't posted anything AGAINST gore running.

[Blue Belle]

68. Well... except for this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.phpaz=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3136979&mesg_id=3136979

and this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2939734

[Harper_is_Bush]

100. That's ONE thread asking Gore not to run. Why don't you go pester and harass

other posters posting threads asking him to run?

One thread. One. This one and the other one linked are not asking him not to run.

You and A-Swartzinager need to step off. Your both carrying on in an irrational fashion.

[Blue Belle]

104. :SIGH: Yet.. in that thread...

you promised to post more threads urging the same cause:

Post 74
And btw, since I've been accused of making this my cause...
after posting twice about it in a month, I'll be posting again. You haven't exactly won me over with your attitude, and have actually made me want to re-state the logic again.

How can we be irrational when we are using your own words? Sounds like this is your personal vendetta. Sounds like you're the one who needs to step off.

[Harper_is_Bush]

110. So? That doesn't change the fact that only ONE thread I've posted

has been asking Gore not to run.

Capiche?

I was a little annoyed with either you or Auh-nald in that thread for harassing and attacking me, thus my comment abotu posting more threads. So what? How irrational is it for you and A-Swartz to chase me around the board accusing me of posting MULTIPLE threads asking Gore not to run? Or accusing me of some unspoken conspiracy? Just a little irrational, I'd say.

This thread is informational, it is sharing the words of Gore about two issues of most interest in relation to him: Global Warming and the Presidential run.

You have SO LITTLE RESPECT FOR AL GORE that you treat a thread based solely upon his words as some kind of offensive anomaly that you need to stamp out by attacking the thread poster and making accusations and insinuations (ie. swiftboating) towards him in some kind of intimidation attempt.

[Blue Belle]

117. As I said before... all people have to do is read your posts...

and decide for themselves. No one has to insinuate a thing... you give out more information about yourself than you realize.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

78. Try to keep up.

[Name removed]

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[Blue Belle]

105. And when you post your threads...

we are free to use your own words against you.

[Harper_is_Bush]

115. No, actually, you're not. Not in the way you have been:

Do not "stalk" another member from one discussion thread to another. Do not follow someone into another thread to try to continue a disagreement you had elsewhere. .... Do not post messages with the purpose of "calling out" another member or picking a fight with another member.

And this is the prelude to the above:

People who repeatedly and willfully break the rules, or who generally engage in rude, anti-social behavior, will be banned. It doesn't matter if you are a fellow progressive, a long-term member of this community, or a donor.Text

Do the rules apply to you and A-Swartzenager?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

116. But YOU'RE the one getting his posts deleted for making false charges of stalking.

Try to stick to the topic of Gore, his environmental work, and
his running or not, and this won't keep happening to you.

[Harper_is_Bush]

118. You don't know why a post was deleted. I will repeat to you what I shared with blue belle:

Do not "stalk" another member from one discussion thread to another. Do not follow someone into another thread to try to continue a disagreement you had elsewhere. .... Do not post messages with the purpose of "calling out" another member or picking a fight with another member.

And this is the prelude to the above:

People who repeatedly and willfully break the rules, or who generally engage in rude, anti-social behavior, will be banned. It doesn't matter if you are a fellow progressive, a long-term member of this community, or a donor.Text

[A-Schwarzenegger]

122. LOFL. Uh, yeah, I do know exactly.

You're doing Mr. Gore no favors with such behavior.

[Harper_is_Bush]

123. Unbelievable.

[Blue Belle]

119. Uhm. No... these rules do not apply to me...

Because if you bothered to re-read your posts that have been highlighted, you will find that I haven't responded in either one of them. Kind of shoots a hole in your theory.... Capiche?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

106. "I'm free to post more threads asking Gore not to run if I please."

You certainly are, more power to you, I'm sure you'll continue
to focus on trying to persuade others to agree with you,
and I look forward to your posts/threads against Gore running,
as other do as well, I'm sure. And youre also free to complain
and make false charges when the majority of responses disagreeing]
with you and pointing out that that is what you are becoming known
for. Why deny the obvious? Why be so upset? :hi:

[Harper_is_Bush]

111. Yes I am. If I want to post more than the ONE I have thus far, I am free to do so.

Did you think I wasn't?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

113. Did you think I thought you weren't?

Note another of your false charges deleted above.

[AtomicKitten]

18. If he runs, I will be proud to support him

and work my ass off for him, again.

[RestoreGore]

64. So he has to "run" in order for you to "work your ass off for him?"

He's not worthy otherwise?

[AtomicKitten]

82. "run" as in "run for office"

in which case I will "work my ass off for him" as in "work my ass off for his campaign."

I already work for him re: slide show presentations.

I hope that chip on your shoulder isn't too burdensome.

Have a wonderful day. :)

[RestoreGore]

94. Where have you done presentations?

Just curious.

[AtomicKitten]

97. recruiting and organization

from here in SF

[RestoreGore]

112. So you reply and then block me?

Afraid of answering questions now?

[enigmatic]

20. I hope he changes his mind

We need him, and he'd instantly become my choice to support. Gore/Obama would be The Mother Of All Juggernauts..

[Blue Belle]

29. I kinda like Gore/Finegold....

but as long as Gore is there, I'll be okay with it (except for Gore/Lieberman again!).

[enigmatic]

30. I can handle that, too

Both would be unbeatable, IMO.

[BuelahWitch]

40. Gore/Feingold is my dream ticket

[Blue Belle]

42. :SIGH: Gore/Finegold if only......

Could you imagine how great it would be...

Real leaders... that could speak in complete sentences.

[calimary]

31. Oh Dear God yes!!! We need him DESPERATELY. I hope to God

he changes his mind.

[atomicdawg38]

26. God Bless Al Gore

I hope he runs. If not, then basically I think were fucked. I'm starting to think politics is basically rigged to fool the masses into believing democracy is real.

[Pastiche423]

39. You're learning

unfortunately. (Last sentence)

Al Gore is my number one candidate. He would have more power to effect the dire steps we all need to take, if he were president.

[Imagevision]

36. Gore's a stand-up guy - Thank you Mr. Gore...

[Harper_is_Bush]

37. second that. n/t

[RestoreGore]

73. Yes, thank you for caring about the world our children will inherit n/t

[NotGivingUp]

38. good for you, al! i understand totally.

[Harper_is_Bush]

43. Yes. It makes sense.

And I hope when he makes it official the people who zealously claim that he's the only hope for a Dem victory in 08
(or that if he "really cared" he'd run) won't be disrespectful to him.

[Blue Belle]

44. If he makes it official...

I'm sure everyone will hold his decision with the utmost respect (not that anyone here has been disrespectful to him). Until that time arives, some of us will go on believing that he is capable of more.

[Harper_is_Bush]

45. Actually, I've seen a great deal of disrespect towards him on DU

of the flavor that I described, which is in the vein of "if he really cared about (insert "country" or "global warming" here) he'd run.

He's done a HUGE amount in the greatest service, that for our planet, but too many folks act like he owes them more.

[NotGivingUp]

50. i've seen the disrespect too..."if your really believe..."...we have to get out there

and do what WE can do...not taunt someone else who has done so much.

[Blue Belle]

67. No one is disrespecting Al Gore here....

Except perhaps those who think his abilities have limits.

[RestoreGore]

71. Who here EVER claimed his abilities have limits?

That's erroneous BS. Even Mr. Gore has rightfully claimed that this political system is TOXIC and that he believes he can best use his abilities doing what he is doing now. Are you saying that he then disrespects himself? WHY he must conform to some BS double standard regarding running for anything anymore astounds me. And how is it that people who insult others who support this man BECAUSE of his abilities and the wonderful and useful way he is now using them all FREELY cannot even approach the subject regarding that toxicity? Afraid that his words are correct? Afraid it will shatter the illusion they wish to project?

Do you HONESTLY believe this good man DESERVES all the shit WE allowed to happen these last six years to be loaded on HIS shoulders? Well, I say, NO WAY, and I know from experience that those in politics who say they will have your back only say that to get what they want and then they are gone. He ran in 1988, he served eight years as Vice President and over twenty five total between the House and Senate, and he ran in 2000 but was deserted by his own damn Party and the American people who should have stood up for this Constitution THEN. HOW DARE anyone state that he has a DUTY to run again. How dare they.

In my honest opinion this nation of people who think consumption and brainless television is all they need to live doesn't deserve him and I have seen many people on these forums as being very ungrateful to him for all he has done and can still do... but even more so, for the work he is trying to inspire US TO DO. He has used his abilities for over a quarter of a century in politics and for what? To be ridiculed? To be stonewalled? To be ROBBED? His work is now to be ignored just because he won't get back into that same BS political soundbite system game? Are people that arrogant to think they have the right to tell him how to live his life, and that what he is now doing isn't up to his abilities? He is now going beyond anything he has ever done and expending his entire heart and soul into doing something that MUST be done...SOMETHING WE ALL MUST DO. In my view to say that isn't good enough is just downright rude and truly ignorant of the REAL CRISIS this planet faces.

[Blue Belle]

79. No one is insulting anyone who supports what Al Gore is doing...

No one is insulting AL Gore. I never said it is his duty to run again. I think EVERYONE on this board supports the efforts Al Gore is undertaking and to paint everyone who doesn't share your wish for him to stay in environmental work with such a broad brush is foolish and counter productive to your campaign. All your fervor for attacking people like myself for thinking that AL Gore could be a great president and could make great strides in curbing global warming with his position in the oval office is ludicrous. Forgive us for thinking that he is a truly outstanding candidate that can not only see the big picture of global warming, but can also see the big picture of poverty, corporate greed, and constitutional crisis. No one is here demanding that Gore should run, or claim its his duty - a majority is secretly hoping he does, and trying to imagine a world where a truly great critical thinker is restored to the office of the United States President. Everyone agrees that Global Warming is a REAL CRISIS - I have yet to read a thread here that states otherwise. What assholes all of us are to think that a man who can inspire millions of people to change their view of energy consumption might be able to change this nation's view of poverty, war, and health care. Forgive us for wanting a leader that understands the entirety of the crisis of the world our children will inherit. We are such ungrateful bastards to be so inspired - we are such ungrateful bastards to want a great leader for a change.

When it comes to the office of the United States Presidency, you'll have to forgive those admirers who truly want to Restore Gore.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

81. Don't you love the smell of straw men in the morning!

:hi:

[Blue Belle]

84. I feel like I've woken up in bizzaro world...

this thread is spinning out of control.

:hi:

[RestoreGore]

92. Yes they are...

it is as if because you support his work now and not him running in 2008 because of that good work that you wish to see him continue uninterrupted and help him with because you put that first and see the urgency of this crisis, you are not considered a supporter of his but a "detractor." Well, that is simply BS. As I learned both in 2000 and 2004, WE really have no say in this government or this process when it comes to the Presidency, and it is not all it once was... so now we must work around that, and I am proud to say that Mr. Gore is now my leader in that process. This obsession with him running now even if he claims he has no intention, has fallen out of love with politics, sees no circumstance under which he would do so, and thinks the process toxic and tomfoolery, is actually beginning to look to me like nothing more than the machination of political operatives looking for a Gore/Clinton smackdown. It is imo a waste of time that could now be better spent doing important work and WAY beneath his character. I'm happy he is finally out here able to do as he chooses and actually making more progress out here as a man of unlimited resources and options without political expectations and all of the BS that goes with it. It is said that we get the government we deserve. That happened in 2000, 2004, and I suspect that will be the case again in 2008 unless WE do the work now. Waiting for a savior does nothing to further that work no matter who it is. It is time for the people of this country to grow up and wake up. There are no white chargers in the real world.

[Blue Belle]

95. That's right...

keep painting with that broad brush... keep pissing off the people that have been supporting Gore and his causes the whole time and will continue to support him whether or not he runs. Keep putting all of us who wish for a better world in this box of yours that implies we are not doing anything about glodal warming if we are wishing for a Gore Presidency (regardless of whether we're working to educate our communities, or limiting our energy consumption, or urging our Governors to sign the Kyoto Treaty - regardless we're all lazy, indifferent, assholes because we hope Gore runs). A good portion of us who have relpied to this thread ARE DOING THE WORK NOW. Perhaps the chip on your shoulder is becomming too much of a burden for you to bear. I'm sorry you are losing faith, but the rest of us haven't forgotten how to multitask.

[Harper_is_Bush]

107. To say that some people here have said that if Gore "really cared about Global Warming....

he'd run again" is not "painting with a broad brush".

Many people here are ZEALOUS in their desire to have Gore run again, and some HAVE said things that are offensive in light of everything he has and continues to do. There's no "broad brush" in that appraisal, it's just the simple truth.

"He'll do the right thing (ie. run)" is another one that is somewhat offensive. He IS doing the right thing, right now. Run or not, nothing infringes on that.

And I'm not pointing the finger specifically at you, so please don't waste my time being defensive.

[Blue Belle]

114. You're the one taking offense....

Everyone agree that Gore IS doing the right thing right now. As I stated before, the only one who knows whether Al Gore is going to run is Al Gore. I hardly think that if Al Gore were to read this thread he would find offense in anything that has been said - except for maybe those responses that claim the world is too ruined and the political climate too unpredictable for him to be an effective leader. The lack of faith in his abilities to lead is the thing I find offensive. Until you can produce a United States voter's registration card, don't waste my time in telling me who I should or shouldn't want as my President.

[RestoreGore]

125. No one told you who you can or cannot want...

Why do you get so defensive when others state they want him to remain the environmental leader he is now because of the URGENCY of this crisis and because he is actually making progress with it in the business world, the global community, and at the grassroots level? You make it sound as if people don't think him a leader unless they join the (toxic system) 08 cheerleaders, and you couldn't be more wrong. And again, where did you read ANYWHERE in this thread anyone stating that he is not an effective leader? Why are you so determined to twist words here to berate others?

It is BECAUSE he is such an exemplary, visionary, and passionate leader on this important issue that I and others want him to continue to lead on it now because we know how much work needs to be done first in order to even get the American people en masse to see it as URGENT in order for that urgency to trickle up to local, state, and then hopefully the Federal level, and we have been waiting a LONG TIME for someone to do this. Hearts and minds must be changed as well on a moral level or this crisis will not be fixable. It is a huge task he has taken on that requires a great many skills along with an unwavering conviction which I respect him for, so I don't know where you get your impressions from.

Only thirty percent of Americans according to a recent poll believe this climate crisis is URGENT, and as Mr. Gore stated in a recent interview at the Hay Festival, the presidency cannot be truly effective if the PEOPLE are not informed and inspired enough to want change. Do you see people in this country ENMASSE talking about this at an urgent level and demanding change yet? Again, you are dragging this out and intimating things about people that are not true. I have supported him for 18 years and in 2004 worked hard to see him get delegates when other groups gave up, but to no avail. I learned a great lesson about this process because of that, so I know of what I speak and I know Mr. Gore knows a hell of a lot more about this process than you or I do. Therefore, I am through batting sh** against the tide in threads like this. It is obvious there is a contingent that simply doesn't understand where he is coming from.

[Blue Belle]

131. I don't get defensive when people say they want him to stay an environmental leader...

You're the one attacking people for thinking he could be an exceptional president. You're the one fixated on berating others for wanting him to have a greater seat of authority. And while I appreciate your reasoned response and agree with most of what you are saying, the only one who knows whether or not Al Gore is running is Al Gore. No one can fully understand where he is coming from. Gore has said in the past that though he is on the wagon as far as politics are concerned, it is a tough drug to quit. With the changes being brought about in the House an the Senate, and more people coming on board with the global warming cause, the time could be right for an Al Gore Presidency - and if that happens, think of what he could do for the world. Everyone understands that it would be a tough battle - Gore is second only to Hillary for being the nuber one punch-line for smarmy neocon jokes - and if he chooses to remain a champion for the environment, so be it. Stop attacking me because I think he may be harboring the possibility of wanting more.

[RestoreGore]

153. If you think my reasoned responses are attacking you

Then you need to take a break from here.

[Blue Belle]

154. I think I'll stay...

but thanks for your concern.

[Harper_is_Bush]

130. Wrong again. See post #5. That's the kind of thing I've seem more than once at DU.

Funny you've missed it.

[Name removed]

133. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Harper_is_Bush]

136. I'm curious, are you with draftgore.com?

I'm trying to think of an explanation for the behaviour that's been directed at me. That would be one.

So are you? Certainly if you were you'd be proud and willing to admit it, I would hope.

[Blue Belle]

140. Right... because that would be the only reason to point out ...

your rediculous contridictions if I were with draftgore.com. :eyes:

I am not a part of Draftgore.com - but thanks for giving me the link. I just signed the petition.

[Harper_is_Bush]

142. ah, you didn't know about it before, that it?

Actually, you pointing out my "rediculous contridictions" has nothing to do with my question.

It was more to do with you're angry and bizarre response to a single thread by me asking Gore not to run.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

143. Here are a lot of folks in the dark in another thread...

waiting for your enlightening message:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3171415&mesg_id=3171415

[Harper_is_Bush]

145. "waiting for your enlightening message".

Just trolling away, huh?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

148. Geepers, learn how to take a compliment!

On second thought, maybe you should stay here with Blue Belle & me.
You might blow a gasket on that other thread.

[Harper_is_Bush]

150. whatever.

Your posts have a pattern of dishonesty, and this denial of blatent sarcasm is in keeping with that.

[Blue Belle]

That's right... I need a better reason to fight your logic with your own words...

It couldn't possibly be anything else. There have been plenty of angry and bizarre responses, but it's been mainly on your part.

[helderheid]

55. absolutely!

[RestoreGore]

74. Why does he have to make anything "official" just to please the media?

Great. More fodder to take up space on the brainless cable news shows without addressing this crisis seriously. It isn't enough that the complicit media in this country already is keeping Americans in the dark about the real dangers we face regarding not taking evasive action on this now. Let's just waste more time bsing about whether or not he has to make it "official" to please their ratings. And sure people will respect him for it, and then no one will bother supporting his endeavors anymore because they can't tie them into a polotical motive. Why do you think he keeps answering that same question the way he is? It is proven daily on these forums that people don;t support him unless the speculation goes along with it. To me that is a sad statement on the state of this country's moral character.

[Blue Belle]

96. You're right. It's better for him to fall out of the Media Spotlight...

and have no one see the work he's doing on Global warming. He'll use his power of invisibility to fight polluters!

[RestoreGore]

109. Why are you deliberately misunderstanding me?

Where did you read where I stated he should fall out of the media spotlight? I do not believe he should feel obligated in making an "official" statement just to please others and this complicit media. Do I need to type slower for you? And for your enlightenment, the cable media is NOT reporting on his work and is NOT telling the people the truth about the dangers we face regarding this crisis and what we must do to mitigate it. They only care about ratings, and of course an "official" statement would be picked up by the hypocrites who can't even cover his climate project. It is no wonder he is not allowing the media into his appearance this coming week, because political speculation is all they really care about.

[Blue Belle]

121. Oy veh...

What a heavy burden you must bear to be the only one that is enlightened...

:eyes:

[RestoreGore]

127. What an intelligent response

This has nothing to do with me, I was discussing the media. But hey, if you can't keep up then perhaps it is best for me to just move on.

[Blue Belle]

132. I think I keep up just fine...

maybe you should come down off your cross - it's time to convert it to ethenol.

[Harper_is_Bush]

137. I'm starting to wonder if a couple of posters (two actually) here aren't with draftgore.com

it would explain a lot.

[Blue Belle]

149. Thanks for the link!

Maybe I should get involved with them!

[Hekate]

46. How about a Cabinet post for Al Gore? Visualize that, why don't we?

Al Gore -- and several other great people running for the top office -- could be wonderfully utilized in the new Democratic administration by offering them Cabinet positions.

Just think about it. :-)

Hekate

[Ignacio Upton]

88. No, have him chair an enviromental commission

to create a comprehensive energy policy.

[Hekate]

91. That too! Except so often the recommendations of commissions go nowhere -- Cabinet is my fantasy. nt

[FlaGranny]

49. Because he doesn't want it

is why we need him. Everyone makes a big deal about George Washington because he really didn't want to be president, and he didn't want more power than the constitution gave him. That's one reason most people believe he was a great president. Well, if Mr. Gore doesn't want it, that's one of the best reasons I can think of to persuade him to do it. Gore certainly has the necessary values and he has the integrity for the job.

[RestoreGore]

54. I can't believe that people are mad at Mr. Gore for doing this!

HOW SELFISH. BOO to all of you! THANK YOU Mr. Gore for putting this planet first where it belongs. So sad so many who claim to support you on these forums don't really care unless they can use what you do for their own political agendas and think you a liar. I'M WITH YOU ALL THE WAY. I want a sustainable planet for my child and all of our children and neither WE NOR THE WORLD CAN WAIT.

[NotGivingUp]

59. I'm with you. I find it unbelievable.

[Harper_is_Bush]

61. Thankyou, very well said. n/t

[RestoreGore]

72. I just truly find it ungrateful n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

77. Who is "mad" at Gore?

Seriously. I dont see anybody in this thread who's "mad" at Gore.
I havent read every post but I see people who want him to run and people who don't. I don't see anybody mad at him. Help me.

[Guaranteed]

69. And the new info here is....??

He has said all of this before.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

76. OP seeks to discourage talk of Gore running.

He believes running and/or being President will prevent Gore
from pursuing his environmental goals or weaken that pursuit.
OP repeats himself. Again and again.

[Warren DeMontague]

86. That's not new info!

I already knew that about the OP.

[Blue Belle]

90. See... but if you start to point out obvious patterns with the OP....

people will start to attack your theories.
Kind of makes you feel like a Climitologist... oh, the irony.

[Bluebear]

157. :)

[Harper_is_Bush]

99. It's time for you to step off

stop hounding me. I don't think the board wants to see it or my corrections of your misrepresentations, and I'm quite sure it's against the rules as well.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

101. Stop posting such silliness.

That is the safest way for you to protect yourself from
people pointing out that you do not want Gore to run, and that
the majority of your posts focus on that stand. Why would you be
ashamed of that? And why else would you post such messages against
Gore running if you do not want to discourage people from wanting
him to run. You honestly don't see the connection? I'm beginning
to suspect you are pretending to not know what you are doing.
But why you continue to deny something that is easily documented
is your business, although mildly amusing.

[Warren DeMontague]

89. January 16, 2007; Gore Aides QUIETLY PUTTING OUT FEELERS FOR A PRESIDENTIAL RUN

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/16/103425/655

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/01/16/another_chance_for_gore/

"More and more people are asking, 'What about Al Gore?' " says Steve Grossman, former chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "If Al Gore were to announce for president, he would be a first-tier candidate on day one. Instead of it being Hillary and Obama on the covers of the national magazines, you would have three faces there."

Another Democratic source says that in recent weeks, the former vice president's camp has quietly put out feelers to presidential politicos, asking whether they are committed for 2008.

[RestoreGore]

93. Who is the source?

Don't give us speculation, give us facts.

[Warren DeMontague]

138. Ask the Boston Globe, not me.

I'll tell you, I consider them a far more reliable source than certain thread posters on this board.

[RestoreGore]

158. Well...

I just may contact the Boston Globe to do as you suggest. Hopefully they wouldn't be as rude in responding.

[mdmc]

98. He will run, if every Dem candidate drafts him to do so

Frankly, at this time, I see multiple Dem candidates that can win the White House in 2008.

[Nikia]

108. I think that he is doing a lot of good on his own

If he wants to run for presidency, that is great, but I think that he has found that he can make a real difference on his own terms. He might feel more fullfilled this way than by becoming president where there is so much pressure from so many different sides.

[Harper_is_Bush]

120. Absolutely. Excellent point, thank you.

It is not a pre-determined fact, as some believe, that he will be more effective against Global Warming (obviously the issue he cares most about) from within the parameters of the White House.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

124. Now, Harper, I agree with you on that.

Finally, youre back to the point instead of hurling false charges.

You write correctly that...
"It is not a pre-determined fact, as some believe, that he will be more effective against Global Warming (obviously the issue he cares most about) from within the parameters of the White House."

But neither is it a pre-determined fact that he would NOT be more effective, which seems to be your stance.

[Harper_is_Bush]

126. "instead of hurling false charges"

I'm not interested in anything you have to say anymore. After the BS you and your sidekick have foisted on me, to have you attempt some false reconciliation with me is pure garbage.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

128. LOL. I am always interested in anything you want to try to foist on me.

Even if it almost makes sense. I'm sure we'll see plenty more
"Gore, Don't Run!" posts & threads from you, and I for
one look forward to them all. I'm sorry that you won't be
interested in my responses.

[WildEyedLiberal]

139. Careful, you'll anger the Gore fans in denial

Look, I like Al. But he's not running and I'm not sure how much more obvious he can make it. Of course, he could say "I absolutely am not considering running" and most of the Gore groupies here would find a way to turn it into "I might run if enough people on liberal blogs start threads begging me to run."

[Harper_is_Bush]

146. too late. n/t

[Swamp Rat]

152. Al Gore/John Conyers 2008

:)

[Apollo11]

155. Gore is keeping his options open

I see everything that is going on right now as creating a "Perfect Storm" for Al Gore.

Hillary has been forced to show her hand a full 12 months before the start of the primaries!!

This means people have a full 12 months to ask Hillary about her position on Iraq, and why has she been so supportive of the illegitimate (p)Resident of the Whitehouse these past 5 years ....

People also have time to get tired of Hillary's campaign. What we might call "Hillary fatigue".

The field is getting very crowded and it will be tough for candidates to gain traction.

I like and respect both Obama and (especially) Edwards. But the fact is they are both relatively inexperienced and unqualified if you compare them to Al Gore. Obama has been 2 years in the Senate and Edwards was 6 years (but the last 2 of those he was concentrating on the 2004 campaign).

I respect the fact that Edwards has come clean about the situation in Iraq, and has admitted he was wrong to vote for the IWR. But I respect much MORE the fact that Gore spoke out agains the Bu$h-Cheney-Rumsfeld policy on Iraq from the beginning - in speeches going back to 2002 - insisting on giving the UN inspectors more time to carry out their mission and maintaining a broad international consensus.

There is no hurry for Gore to enter the race for 2008. He is doing a great job raising public awareness about the climate crisis (speaking to more than 12000 people in Boise today!). He is also busy working on his next book "The Assault on Reason" - to be published in May (see article below).

Depending on how things pan out, and the reaction to his forthcoming book, Gore can consider his situation over the summer and announce his decision sometime in the fall. Don't forget that Bill Clinton did not start his campaign until October 1991 - 12 weeks before the start of the '92 primaries. But Al Gore already has nationwide respect and name recognition that other wannabees can only wish for!

Unless and until Gore endorses another candidate, we have to assume that he is keeping his options open. So it is too soon for those of us who prefer Gore to switch our allegiance.

The Washington Post -- Sunday, September 17, 2006

Gore's 2008 Plans May Become Clearer After Release of Book

By John F. Harris and Shailagh Murray

Although saying he has no plans to run for president in 2008, former vice president Al Gore has nonetheless left the door ever so slightly ajar. It's a good bet that door will swing open a good bit wider come next May.

That is when Gore is scheduled to publish his next book. With no fanfare, he signed a few weeks ago with Penguin Press to write "The Assault on Reason."

As described by editor Scott Moyers, the book is a meditation on how "the public arena has grown more hostile to reason," and how solving problems such as global warming is impeded by a political culture with a pervasive "unwillingness to let facts drive decisions."

While that may sound abstract, both the subject matter and the timing of the release have an unmistakable subtext. In 2004, Gore cheered liberals when he lashed at President Bush for allegedly falling captive to right-wing special interests and taking flight from "fact-based analysis." If the book strikes a chord, it will produce new momentum for Gore to make another bid for the White House, presumably fueled in large part by anti-Iraq-war Democrats.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore!

In Gore We Trust :)
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition!
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

[Harper_is_Bush]

156. That could be a brilliant ploy

to keep the focus on him, and thus his cause.