AL GORE, PLEASE do NOT run for President

[Harper_is_Bush]

What you have done thus far in the fight against Global Warming is nothing short of incredible. You have almost single-handedly educated the world and brought this issue to the forefront, something no world leader has been able to do.

What you are now doing with theclimateproject.org is equally incredible. Training a 1000 people to branch out and give your presentation is ground-breaking. The more the message gets out the better our hope for prevailing in this climate crisis.

If you were to to announce now, you know it would chip away at your ability to operate as effectively as you have.

All your efforts would suddenly be consumed by a campaign.

Your enemies would pump the idea that all of your important work in the all-important fight against Global Warming was just some cynical ploy to win back the Presidency.

If/when you win, your attention will then be required on a slew of domestic and foreign issues besides Global Warming.

I know you know that you are fulfilling your purpose and can continue to do so with the most success in a free and independent and focused state as you currently find yourself in.

Bless you Al and everything you're doing to save our planet.

[KeepItReal]

1. Vice-President Gore, if you think your environmental work is done, however...

Please feel free to run for President of the United States in 2008.

I think the environmentalists will find a way to forgive you.

[mod mom]

26. We have Bobby Kennedy Jr to focus on the environment-RUN AL RUN!

We'd love to have a stateman president who has deep concerns for the environment!

[H2O Man]

35. By no coincidence,

the two are good friends. Al Gore can be a heck of an environmental advocate if he is president. He can coordinate efforts with Robert.

[madokie]

78. What a rush I just had thinking about a Gore/Kennedy ticket

WOW,

[H2O Man]

80. A lot of people,

myself included, have urged Robert to run for office over the years. He used to be firm in his belief that he could accomplish more by staying outside of politics, and working as an environmental advocate both in the judicial arena and in efforts aimed at the education of all people. I think that he may be seeing things differently now. Should Senator Clinton be elected president, I think it is safe to assume that New York will again have a Senator Robert Kennedy.

[halobeam]

100. Yeah, I'd pretty much need the smelling salts if that were the ticket.

Repeatedly. I have a dream.

[johnaries]

2. Al, PLEASE run! We need you now more than ever.

Your recent actions have proven your sincerity and your integrity.

We need your clarity of vision now more than ever. PLEASE RUN!

[madeline_con]

3. Maybe the 1000 trainees could pick up the slack.....

if Al is busy on another "campaign". :popcorn:

[maddezmom]

4. He's not running...Reuters: No Al Gore in U.S Presidential race

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2689865

[Warren DeMontague]

7. Funny that they don't have an actual quote, there.

I remain unconvinced. I'll wait and see.

[FrenchieCat]

8. Your Gore Banner is extraordinarily beautiful! Well Done! n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Thanks.

Wes is my #2 choice, BTW. :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

17. Kewl!

Cause Al Gore, I could definitely support! No problem there! :hi:

[Clark2008]

55. As a Tennessee Clarkie, I just LOVE the fact that most

Clarkie and Gore fans have each other's candidates in the No. 2 spot.

:hug:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

98. Yep - I'd have a real dilemna if those two run against each other....

don't know what I'd do.

[maddezmom]

15. good point

It's just I've seen this post before from the OP and was hoping it might help, if you know what I mean. :D

[Warren DeMontague]

16. Actually, between then & now this thread popped up:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x3137181

Anyway, who knows-- maybe he's not running- and maybe the band isn't gonna do an encore.


But it won't kill me to stand on the lawn holding my lighter in the air for a little bit longer. :hi:

[TheDebbieDee]

20. That article was discussed on DU on Monday morning.......

It's just another example of an article with an extremely MISLEADING headline..........

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

5. As President, why couldn't he internalize his environmental policies

into the government itself? With a Democratic-controlled Congress to fund it, it could do for the environment what no previous administration has ever done. I also would expect a Gore Presidency to launch a massive effort to develop alternative energy, a Manhattan-style project in fact. A campaign might interrupt his work on global warming, but then again it might give him an even more prominent platform to make this a central issue in American politics, which it deserves to be.

[Leopolds Ghost]

115. You mean concentrate all his energy and power into a small, easily-disposable object

such as legislation?

My friend, that violates rule #1 of the Evil Overlord Handbook! :hi:

[Name removed]

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[Patchuli]

10. What better way to continue

than as Leader of the Free World?

RUN AL RUN!!!!!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. I disagree completely.

but I'll accept his decision if that's what he chooses.

[JCMach1]

12. Oh yes, being Pres. would make you much less effective

in fighting global warming...

Oh Please!

[jus_the_facts]

14. Seems being VP didn't help the cause any for EIGHT years...

:eyes:

[JCMach1]

22. hmmmm Kyoto anyone... he tried rather hard

as I recall...

[Art_from_Ark]

89. He even went so far as to sign it

on behalf of the United States. Then the "adults" took over :banghead:

[cboy4]

13. I hope he runs. I'm pretty confident in Al's ability to

multi task.

[OneBlueSky]

18. Al Gore is EXACTLY who we need in the White House . . . no other candidate . . .

(or potential candidate) has the depth of understanding of the environmental crises facing this nation and the planet, and the bona fides to address them aggressively . . . if we don't do something drastic to save our dying oceans, for example -- and SOON -- all life on the planet is dangerously threatened . . . and then there's global warming . . .

Al Gore is the right man at the right time . . .

and I hope he hires people like Keith Olbermann and Bill Moyers as advisors . . .

[frogcycle]

83. As critical as the climate crisis is

and believe me, it has been a hot button for me as long as it has for Al, the even bigger picture is that the root cause of the problem, and resistance to addressing it, comes back to politics, money, big business, greed - all the same things that have our form of government on the brink.

Al's demonstration of the intellectual capacity to understand the issues, the analytical skill to avoid simplistic answers, the energy and persistence to mount a campaign to "win the hearts and minds" of the entire planet - well, who better to tackle the bigger, broader issue?

Although the IMPACT of climate change is broader than the impact of political crap (that is, wars may kill a lot of people and change political boundaries, but global warming can actually change the global ecology permanently, potentially making the place actually uninhabitable), the causes and corrective actions necessary to address it are broader than climatological. You can't get polluters to stop, people to agree to lifestyle changes, etc. from the climate platform alone.

awkward attempt to make the point, but in summary, Al's success to date on the climate issue makes clear that we ABSOLUTELY need him to get in the oval office to continue the corrective action plan

[OneBlueSky]

109. excellent points . . . I agree with you . . . n/t

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[pnwmom]

19. What about Gore as head of the EPA? Or the Secretary of the Interior?

[JNelson6563]

21. WH bully-pulpit useless

Surely Gore could not demand world attention to this global problem from the WH. No, that would be impossible.

This small group of folks who cry out against Gore running just cracks me up. Like being the most powerful person in the world would actually hamper Gore's ability to continue his efforts.

:rofl:

Talk about clueless! :toast:

Julie

[Harper_is_Bush]

23. It's quite simple, really.

Just because you don't understand it is no reason to start name-calling.

[JNelson6563]

25. Explain it

How can anyone be more effective without the full weight of the presidency behind them? This lacks sound reasoning.

Julie

[Harper_is_Bush]

27. Because they can focus on a singular purpose

as Gore has done.

The President needs to balance all of the foreign and domestic responsibilities besides global warming.

Al Gore has done more in the last couple of years for the fight against global warming than he did in 8 years as VP.

If he was running for President would he be able to organize the climate project he is currently organizing? No, of course not.

Need I go on?

[Ron Green]

29. He doesn't NEED to organize projects when he's President. People will do that for him.

What he can do is remind everybody of the importance of this issue, and make decisions based on environmental impact and true-cost accounting.

[Harper_is_Bush]

30. Who would conduct the climate project as well as he can?

Nobody.

[FourScore]

46. You're right. He wouldn't "conduct" the movement as President.

He would CONTROL it. Imagine what he could do if he were the most powerful man in the world!!! With his passion on this issue...it would make President Kennedy's pledge to get to the moon within the decade look like peanuts.

GORE/FEINGOLD 2008

RE-ELECT AL GORE!!!

[Harper_is_Bush]

49. You're obviously not aware of what he's doing at the moment. n/t

[FourScore]

58. Maybe if he were President I'd be more aware...

as would many other people.:D

[A-Schwarzenegger]

59. You caught the OP arguing against the OP.

:hi:

[Leopolds Ghost]

116. Muhahaha! With my new powers, I control global temperatures worldwide! ;-)

Enough of that tedious mucking about with policy nonprofits. :P

[JNelson6563]

77. Ah, underestimating him, I see

Some people are able to do several things at a time and do a great job. Gore is one.

Julie

[Bluebear]

121. :)

[Apollo11]

88. To be fair

JNelson6563 never said that ALL Canadians are clueless. ;-)

Maybe you should wait for Al Gore's next book to come out in May ("The Assault on Reason").

After you read it, come back here and tell us that Gore only thinks about climate change and he can only be effective as some kind of a globe-trotting single-issue awareness-raising campaign.

[Name removed]

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[Horse with no Name]

28. Yeah Al! Don't Run!

We don't want to win this election or anything...:eyes:

[Harper_is_Bush]

31. If you think the only way the Dems can win the election is if Al runs

you might as well just stay home election day.

[Horse with no Name]

32. Nah..I will vote

You can stay home and spread your Anti-Gore spew.
Funny thing...this is the second time in two days that I was told to stay home and not vote because I support Gore.
Things that make you go hmmmm....

[Harper_is_Bush]

33. "anti-Gore spew"?

I advocate for Gore not to run, and that's "anti-Gore"? Spew, no less!

I think you better watch your step.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

42. "I think you better watch your step." Are you a mod or Admin?

[Harper_is_Bush]

43. I know how the board works

do you?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

47. I know you have no idea how your attitude drowns your message,

not that your message was going too swimmingly in the first place.

[Harper_is_Bush]

60. All you've done is attack me because you don't like my message

perhaps that has something to do with my current attitude, which you're now using for your ad hom attack on me.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

61. Dont be silly. Your argument makes no sense

& your attitude toward those who say so is contemptuous.
Good luck though.

[Harper_is_Bush]

62. My points are legitimate, and your behaviour towards me has been

contemptible

[A-Schwarzenegger]

63. I have the feeling this won't be your last tenuous thread against Gore running.

And I doubt youll have much better luck with the next one.
But dont let that or anything else stop you.

[Name removed]

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[Harper_is_Bush]

68. This is #2, EVER, with over a month seperation. You're being a little paranoid, no?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

69. Boy, if at first you get your false charge deleted, try, try again.

You are not helping your ramshackle argument against Gore running.
In fact, youre probably winning converts for Gore to run.

[Harper_is_Bush]

71. I don't understand what you're attacking me over

[Harper_is_Bush]

74. And btw, since I've been accused of making this my cause...

after posting twice about it in a month, I'll be posting again. You haven't exactly won me over with your attitude, and have actually made me want to re-state the logic again, including some of the excellent comments by other like-minded posters appearing here.

Thankyou.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

76. Youre welcome, Harper!

I look forward to many more "Gore Won't Run! Gore, Don't Run!" posts from you. :hi:

[Harper_is_Bush]

72. I'm Canadian, so I won't be voting. And what is your implication in saying

that my post makes you go "hmmmm"?

I'm not telling you to stay home, I'm telling you you WILL stay home since Gore won't be running.

[G Hawes]

34. Al is great, but I agree with the sentiment about him not running for prez

not only because it will take away from his environmental work, but also because he's kind of "tainted" in the minds of the general public as a serious contender for the presidency due to his history, and i think that if we are to take back the whitehouse in 2008, it's going to take "new blood" so to speak to really appeal to the masses.

jmho, of course.

[Harper_is_Bush]

36. Exactly. As well, his global warming work thus far would be tainted.

Might want to put your raincoat on, btw. You're about to be sh#t on.

[G Hawes]

41. Agreed.

He has done an incredible job of bringing the global warming issue to the fore, but it will all be for naught if he goes to the whitehouse.

(and thanks for the raincoat warning, but no worries, i don't let posters on the internet bother me in the slightest no matter what they say, so if they do flame, it won't disrupt my day or my life one iota)

[Harper_is_Bush]

44. Excellent post, thx. n/t

[FourScore]

48. "Al Gore used to come across as cold.

Now he's just cool."

Can't remember where I read that, but I love that quote.

He ain't tainted. He's my President. (Best sung to the tune of "He's My Brother")

GORE/FEINGOLD 2008

RE-ELECT AL GORE!!!

[jefferson_dem]

37. I love Al Gore! ... but also hope he does not run.

It would not serve our party or this country well to dredge up the grand old guard. Forward is best...

"America is ready for a new set of challenges. This is our time. A new generation is prepared to lead."
- Obama

[Harper_is_Bush]

38. Al Gore has found his place. He will win a Nobel, that's my prediction. n/t

[RestoreGore]

118. That Would Be Fantastic And Well Deserved...

Only, I REALLY hope he takes his climate project training to Africa and deals more with the poverty that is stopping real progress regarding this crisis. I have called his office to suggest this and also mailed him about it, because Africa is the hardest hit continent in terms of the affects of climate change. The people there are aching for knowledge and the tools to address this crisis and fight it. The global water crisis is my biggest concern, and I know he mentioned Lake Chad in his book and hope to see him address this more in the future. I see no other man with the abilities necessary to get this done other than Al Gore. He is truly a great man.

[Apollo11]

87. Obama can wait until 2016 or 2024

No amount of clichés will prove otherwise.

[jefferson_dem]

103. Perhaps so. I hope not.

I do know that there's *nothing* "cliche" about his statement that i posted. Maybe you don't agree with his sentiment...but "cliche"? Nah.

[crispini]

39. Well...

I'll break it down for you:

All your efforts would suddenly be consumed by a campaign.

Yes, a campaign in which you would have endless appearances on talk shows and endless opportunties to give speeches in which you could bring your environmental message to people.

Your enemies would pump the idea that all of your important work in the all-important fight against Global Warming was just some cynical ploy to win back the Presidency.

Your enemies are going to come up with SOMETHING bad to say about you. If this is the worst thing they come up with, you're lucky. People who spend more than five minutes listening to you will realize that your overwhelming sincerity and your deep concern for the future of our planet is your biggest concern now, and that you are using the presidential race as a way to address all of us.

If/when you win, your attention will then be required on a slew of domestic and foreign issues besides Global Warming.

And you'll be able to appoint a BIG, LIKEMINDED staff to help you with all of those issues, AND with Global Warming. Oh, and ratify Kyoto too, like ASAP.

Hey, Mr. Gore, if you really don't WANT to run -- don't run! It's your life, after all! But I think you know you would do ten times more good for the environment as President than you can as a private citizen, and I think you know that, and I think somewhere deep down in your heart, you wanna run!

[Harper_is_Bush]

40. I should have been more specific about the "enemies" part...

it's ALREADY been said, and entered the public consciousness, that Al Gore only made his movie so he could run for the Presidency.

If he ran it would diminish the entire global warming cause. He knows that, which is why he won't run.

[zulchzulu]

45. If Al wants to run, ferchrissakes, let him run

He would bring an interesting component to the primaries.

[Harper_is_Bush]

54. If he wants to run he can run. At this point, he hasn't indicated that he does.

And I would hope your considerations would extend beyond just the prospect of an "interesting component to the primaries". Things are a little more weighty than that.

[Samantha]

50. Thanks, but no thanks, Hillary.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

51. !

[Harper_is_Bush]

52. uh, ok..Osama.

[crispini]

64. Bwahahahahahahaha.

:rofl:

[NYCGirl]

53. Yeah, Al, it's not like being President would get any attention or anything.

Jeez.

:sarcasm:

Al Gore could do more for the environment in two weeks as President than he's been able to do since he wrote "Earth in the Balance" in the 90s.

[lonestarnot]

56. Hmmf. Al pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. We need you!

love lonestarnot :loveya: Al.

[Tatiana]

57. Al doesn't have to run. At this point he would walk right into the Presidency.

This nation has had enough of Bush and neocon republicans. I think the people/sheeple are now ready for competent, cogent, intelligent, compassionate, and fair leadership.

[FourScore]

66. Good one!

"Al doesn't have to run. At this point he would walk right into the Presidency."

That's one to remember!

[Harper_is_Bush]

67. Nobody walks into the Presidency. n/t

[Tatiana]

70. Well, Gore could be the first. He's already won once.

I bet Al Gore looks really good to at least 25% those fundies who are sending their sons and daughters off to fight W's war in Iraq. We could be looking at a 65% landslide across the nation.

(Well, with the exception of Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho.)

[dysfunctional press]

73. Environment Czar has a nice ring to it...and maybe some epulets

a new cabinet position in the next Democratic administration.

although my FIRST choice would STILL be for a President Al Gore.

[silverweb]

75. I respect him too much to ask.

Which is why I don't express an opinion on this, but know he will deliberate long and carefully before deciding what course to take.

Whatever he chooses, he has my full support -- along with my endless gratitude for all he has done and all he will yet do.

[terrya]

79. I sure wouldn't mind seeing Al Gore as head of the EPA....

in the next Democratic administration. In 2008.

I think that would send a strong signal that the environment and global warming are priority number one.

[frogcycle]

96. sorry,

that post is so far beneath his abilities it defies comment

[Bridget Burke]

81. Al Gore, please ignore your enemies.

If you decide to run again, I'll vote for you again.

Ignore the naysayers. Especially if they can't vote here.

[Harper_is_Bush]

84. What a despicable post. You should be ashamed for that. n/t

[Apollo11]

86. NO - YOU should be ashamed

Al Gore was the rightful winner of the 2000 election.

Even if you can't see that - everyone agrees Gore got more votes than Bush.

If Gore is ready to run again, and if the American people want him to be their President, then the whole world would benefit.

Quite simply - he is the best qualifed person for the job. Probably the most important job in the world.

If you are a Canadian - what right do you have to say he should not run?

I say he should keep his options open and seriously consider running.

With Gore as President - America and the world would be much better off.

[Labors of Hercules]

91. HERE! HERE!

:toast:
And every day he is out there promoting his cause, he is proving to the American people that he is the one we need in the White House. In a way, it's been a more effective campaign to launch him back into the presidency than any political campaign ever could be!

[Harper_is_Bush]

94. The "campaign" has been about global warming, not

to launch him back into the Presidency.

Inadvertently you've stumbled on the problem of him running for President now...it would belittle in the public's eyes what he's done in the fight against global warming thus far. The question would arise: was it all about getting another shot at the Presidency all along?

[Harper_is_Bush]

93. Who the H is talking about the 2000 election, and why would you lie

in saying "even if you can't see that"?

And to suggest that as a Canadian I have no right to say he should do what he's doing instead of running for US Prez is ridiculous.

[Bridget Burke]

92. Somehow, I'm not ashamed. n/a

[Harper_is_Bush]

95. you should be. Calling me Al Gore's "enemy" is beyond shameful.

[Bridget Burke]

110. How about the enemy of all of us in the USA who want him as President?

(Still not ashamed.)

[Harper_is_Bush]

111. whatever. Either one is a ridiculous attack.

Perhaps that was your intent.

[Bridget Burke]

112. Ridiculous attack?

No, just ridicule.

[Harper_is_Bush]

113. I can judge who is attacking me, and you most certainly did

in a despicable fashion.

Anyone who would advise Gore not to run is not his "enemy". I think you're projecting your own fears of not getting Dem executive power in '08 and narrow belief that Gore is the only one who can get that for you.

[Harper_is_Bush]

114. dupe

[mdmc]

82. an inconvenient race

lol

[Apollo11]

85. Nobody is better qualifed to be President

This is why I strongly disagree with your idea of asking Al Gore "to not run for President in 2008".

In effect you are saying that you would prefer that someone less qualified (in terms of knowledge, experience, intelligence, values, sense of perspective) than Al Gore should be POTUS from January 2009 potentially thru until January 2017.

With respect, my opinion is different from yours. I think Al Gore should keep his options open for now, see how the Democratic field is shaping up over the Summer, and then make his decision in the Fall.

You seem to think that Al Gore is only thinking about the climate - focusing on it 110%. This is the appearance he has been giving over the past 10 months. But he is already planning to move on and talk about other topics - like how to get better government in America. This is the main theme of his next book - "The Assault on Reason" - coming out on May 22.

One thing is certain: someone will be the Democratic candidate for President in the Fall of 2008, and depending on who it is - they should have a good chance of winning "back" the Whitehouse. So why would we want to discourage the best qualified person from accepting that challenge?

In Gore We Trust :)
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com
www.draftgore2008.org
www.patriotsforgore.com

[frogcycle]

97. roger that!

[Art_from_Ark]

99. I agree 1000%

Al Gore is far and away the most qualified national figure from either party to be President. Why settle for 2nd, or 3rd, or 4th best? Or even 300,000,000th best (like what we've got now)?

[earth mom]

90. This country needs Gore NOW more than ever.

Because of Global Warming and so much more.

Maybe if you lived in the states and understood what we are all going through, you would know that already. :eyes:

[Clarkie1]

101. You make a valid arguement. I have so much respect for Gore. nt

[Imagevision]

102. Nah! the country needs new fresh blood, new talent, Edwards and Obama is a

breath of fresh air, These old farts like McCain and Giuliani especially Lieberman is discouraging!! even Hillary is too old!

[NoSheep]

104. Run, Al. Run...as far as you can from your detractors.

[Triana]

105. I love Al Gore and I agree...

..he has made incredible progress on this issue and he need to be able to continue that progress. As President, I believe he wouldn't be able to continue his important work on Climate Change. He'd make a fabulous Pres, but we need him right where he is.

[NYCGirl]

106. Yes, the President of the United States has no power to change anything.

:sarcasm:

[RestoreGore]

119. Yes sure, that's why it hasn't been done, even by Clinton n/t

[AtomicKitten]

107. The time is right for Gore.

47,000 evangelical churches have embraced global warming as a cause, considering it a biblical mandate, plus Stephen Hawkings just moved the Doomsday Clock forward two seconds because of global warming, considering it second only to the nuclear threat as detrimental to the planet.

From the office of POTUS, Gore can really address this issue. It's his time.

Gore/Obama 2008.

[derby378]

108. Al Gore won the election in 2000

He might as well take his rightful place in the Oval Office. I say run, Al, run!

[Bluebear]

117. Indeed. nt

[Swamp Rat]

120. Yep. Al Gore was the last elected president we've had in America.

I wonder if Bushler stole the elections for governor in Texas too?