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Tue Mar-27-07 08:47 PM
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What would you do if you were the Democrats and Bush veteos the spending bill? |
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Would you keep a provision for withdrawal and put it up for a vote; basically make the Republicans vote against money for the troops again?
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Would you take withdrawal and pass a spending bill to keep from looking like you're voting against support of the troops?
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would you do something else?
I personally would do the first. Let the Republicans keep voting against these spending bills. Most Americans (60% to 30%) support what the Democrats are doing, and won't buy that Democrats are hurting the troops when they are the ones that are acutally voting yes to give them money. Am I wrong?
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:49 PM
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Wed Mar-28-07 11:20 AM
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28. If I served in congress, which probably I will never do, I would go to the people |
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Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 11:32 AM by liberaldemocrat7
and say, that the Republican party appears weak and vulnerable at the cash registers of those companies that give them money.
I would tell citizens that if you want the US involvement in the Iraq war to end then call WAR contractor and Republican contributor General Electric Corporation at 203 373 2211 and ask for the public relations department and politely tell the person
UNLESS you can get your CEO to get George W Bush to bring the troops out of Iraq in an orderly fashion by the end of 2007, we will no longer buy any GE light bulbs, Refrigerators, stoves, dishwashers, telephones, TVs, Radios or any other products.
That's what I would do as a congressman. Although I do this now as a citizen.
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:50 PM
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2. IMHO he will sign it and do a "signing statement" to ignore what the King |
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:22 PM
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16. That's what I figure too |
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It's what he's done all along.
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:32 PM
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18. That would be the best possible thing to happen, IMO. |
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Let him try the signing statement when everyone is paying attention.
Fastest road to impeachment would be for us to have a serious examination of W's history of signing statements.
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:51 PM
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3. Send him an even stronger bill. |
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If he vetoes a non-binding resolution, send him a binding resolution, with a date certain.
If he vetoes that, send him a bill with a hard deadline for troop withdrawal, and enough money to bring the troops home, and not a dime more.
He's in a box right now. Every time he throws another tantrum, put him in a smaller box.
Let him be responsible for the troops having no money, and get on TV every hour to remind the American people that Bush is the one taking their money away.
Make him pay for being a stubborn bastard.
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:56 PM
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7. Yes! And that's what's happening... nt |
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:06 PM
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10. "Every time he throws another tantrum, put him in a smaller box." |
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:applause: :woohoo: :applause:
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Tue Mar-27-07 11:57 PM
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25. Take away his citizenship and let him try and take a plane. |
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:35 PM
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19. BRAVO! You're exactly right. Unfortunately that's not how Congress Dems usually act. Too bad. nt |
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Wed Mar-28-07 12:09 AM
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26. I LIKE the way you think! |
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Wed Mar-28-07 11:15 AM
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Oh, I do hope the Democratic leadership has the political guts to do just that. The American people want this disastrous war to stop now, and if the Democratic leadership holds firm, they will not only be applauded, but they will be doing what is right. Every week we stay we have another dozen killed and another three dozen maimed and the voters are just fed up with it. The only good thing coming out of this war is that no President in the near future will be tempted to engage in anything so stupid.
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:54 PM
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voting on it and keep sending it back to him, if for no other reason it keeps the withdrawal on the front page,and in the publics face.
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:54 PM
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5. Back-door defunding of the war via veto. |
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Under no circumstances would I allow a war funding bill to cross Bush's desk that Bush wouldn't veto. That means we start with the withdrawal deadline. The next one will have a provision prohibiting Bush from attacking Iran without Congressional authorization. The one after that would mandate that the funds allocated be used to redeploy the troops back to the U.S.
We can keep doing variations of the above until Bush's pointy little head explodes. Just as long as we keep the vetoes coming, the Democrats can claim they're allocating the funds and supporting the troops, but the idiot in chief will refuse to compromise and keeps vetoing the legislation.
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:02 PM
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:10 PM
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13. Keep passing the spending and move the pullout back 1 month |
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each time he vetoes it.
He vetos this one. Just pass it again with the funding but make the deadline August. Next one deadline is July. Next one deadline is June.
Every time he vetos it HE moves the date back a month. And each time we pass it send a memo to Cheney to go fuck himself.
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:09 PM
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12. It's a good approach, but I wonder how long people are willing to sit. |
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Polls show people are already unhappy with progress in Congress, and I am not sure the news media has been utilized in such a way as to show that the Republicans are the ones who keep blocking everything.
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:17 PM
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15. Stop worrying so much about how the bullshit media system |
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is going to spin it. Whatever we do the BMS will spin it against us. What we have to do is what is right not what looks good on tv.
The right thing to do is end the war as soon as possible.
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:55 PM
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The republicons used to shut down the goverment when they didn't get their way. No signature, no money, Chimp Boy.
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Tue Mar-27-07 08:57 PM
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:06 PM
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11. Propagandize that the White House is endangering the troops |
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for no reason other than its own overweaning pride.
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:35 PM
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:14 PM
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14. Shorten the deadline and pass a new bill. |
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Fuck him and the horse he rode in on. Everytime he vetos it, shorten the deadline and send it right back to him.
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:39 PM
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22. Yes, that would be a perfect rebuttal to Shrub's defiance |
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:30 PM
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The ball's in his court. He needs money. Let him come crawling to me.
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Tue Mar-27-07 09:38 PM
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21. Resubmit or get enough votes to override a veto |
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Tue Mar-27-07 10:02 PM
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23. Pat Buchanon thinks Bush will veto and the Dems will capitulate. |
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I think Pat is doing a total misread of the American people. If Bush wishes to play politics and veto the bill, he can explain it to the troops that aren't getting the support. Democrats are fully funding the requirements...we are just sending the boy-king a message that play time is almost over and he'll have to think about getting ready for bed. If he wants to have a tantrum, it might be up to his Party to explain the facts of life to him. Because the adults (the voters) have already made up their minds.
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Tue Mar-27-07 10:31 PM
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24. I'd hold hearings every damn day and audit every dollar,... |
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,...spent to date associated with the "war on terra" in addition to relentlessly requiring sworn testimony concerning the asserted basES for war AND Cheney's "energy task" meetings.
Hearings on torture. Hearings on the Medicare fiasco. Hearings on outing a covert spy. Hearings on voting machine contracts. Hearings on Katrina. Hearings on representations re domestic economy. Hearings on the national deficit. Hearings on the foreign deficit. Hearings on the un"Patriot Act" (specifically, sneaky insertion of language). Hearings on domestic spying. Hearings on gulags. Hearings on ANY deals involving ANY arms. Hearings on foreign "gifts". Hearings on ANY and ALL laws and/or contracts granting immunity from prosecution. Hearings on the cost/benefit of private security contractors. Hearings on the Shiavo event. Hearings on any/all spending for PR/communications by the executive/military et al. Hearings on ANY/ALL "whistle-blowers". Hearings on comparative profiteering during the Iraq war. Hearings on ALL energy companies. Hearings on hearings upon hearings about hearings.
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Wed Mar-28-07 12:02 PM
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I would pass a quick temporary funding bill that would maintain Iraq funding while the current budget is under procedure. Thus make sure those troops there currently are funded. I would then pass and even tougher bill if possible. It's been 4 years. It's time for the President to demonstrate real progress by meeting actual measurable milestones or move our troops out.
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Wed Mar-28-07 12:21 PM
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30. Send It right back, wth no changes |
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Wed Mar-28-07 12:25 PM
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31. Yup! Tack it on to another bill and let him veto it again. |
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Just make him keep turning down the money for the troops. Sooner or later he's going to have to sign it.
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Wed Mar-28-07 01:11 PM
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Congress is not required to pass any bill. Tell B*sh, "That was the bill you were going to get. Take it or leave it. We're not going to give you another."
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