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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:34 AM
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Cramer responds to Stewart: ‘It was naive and misleading’ to attack me.
Ole Cramer found his voice. It only took about a week. :D And sure, Stewart is naive. :eyes:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/19/cramer-stewart-today/

Cramer responds to Stewart: ‘It was naive and misleading’ to attack me.

This morning, CNBC host Jim Cramer went on NBC’s Today Show and made some of his first public comments about his brutal face-off with the Daily Show’s Jon Stewart. (The morning after the evisceration, Cramer unexpectedly skipped a planned appearance on MSNBC’s Morning Joe.) Today, Cramer dismissed Stewart’s attacks, calling them “naive” and saying that CNBC had been “out front” in identifying financial malfeasance:

I think it was a naive and misleading thing to attack the media. We weren’t behind this. CNBC, in particular, has been out front on this. … I think there are people who bear so much more responsibility {than the media} that it’s just wrong-headed: the politicians, the regulators, the SEC, the lenders, the investment banks. … It’s just a naive focus, it really is Meredith.


Watch it at link~

This full-throated defense of the network may be coming in response to CNBC staffers who were reportedly “furious” with Cramer for not defending their reporting in his interview with Stewart.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:41 AM
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1. Now he's all big and tough
But he sure was a big wuss when Stewart was tearing him a new asshole. Very contrite, almost in tears, his whole appearance was a giant mea culpa. Now, out of reach of Stewart, he's suddenly become Mr. macho.

I don't think it'll fly.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:47 AM
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2. He'd better stand by for some backlash from Stewart, who has been
very quiet about this. "I" wouldn't challenge him. :)
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:54 AM
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3. The media(especially a financial media) is supposed to watch...
"the politicians, the regulators, the SEC, the lenders, the investment banks."

if they can't monitor these groups and know what is going on - what is the point of their existence?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:55 AM
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4. He never said you were responsible Mr Cramer.
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 09:57 AM by Ganja Ninja
What you were and should be responsible for is giving people honest information without political bias or a motive for personal gain.
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:56 AM
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5. How much did Cramer lose in the market?
That's what I want to know.

Unless he lost his shirt, he wasn't taking his own *advice.*

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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 09:59 AM
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6. Cramer Continues to Try and Make This About Him
Jon even called him on this in the damn interview.

"This song isn't about you!"

A statement Cramer seemed to agree with during the interview. He sure talks a big game when no one is in his face about it.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:04 AM
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7. Maybe you should go back on the show to let Stewart know personally?

:rofl:

Lemme know how that works out for ya!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:05 AM
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8. Millions Of Viewers To Cramer...STFU
So it took him almost a week to crawl out of his rock and this is his best defense? "We weren't behind this"? No one said Greed Central was, just how disengenuous that network is and how they have blurred lines between not just information and entertainment, but also selling their air time to "experts" and others who then get glowing recommendations on the air.

Cramer can pass the buck...and he's right, this economic shitpile belongs to a lot of people...the "regulators" in specific who became too cozy with the Cramers out there and let these games go on, but as Stewart showed, Cramer sure wasn't against using his on-air position to play games to move the markets up and down...that was "just kidding" or "hypothetical".

Millions have seen the interview...it became viral as fast as anything as I can say. Cramer's damage control is too little too late.
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njlib Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:06 AM
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9. Just a heads up
Bruce Springsteen is going to be the guest on The Daily Show tonight! Hope he's going to get as much time as Cramer was given.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:08 AM
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11. Springsteen? Very cool. Thanks for the info! nt
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njlib Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:16 AM
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13. He mentioned it at the end of last night's show
and was very excited! Stephen Colbert's jealous! :)

He's also going to perform, which is why I hope he gets most of the show. I'd much rather listen to him go back and forth with Stewart as much as possible.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:07 AM
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10. He really doesn't know when to shut up, now does he?
I wonder how Jon will act in response to this?
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:15 AM
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12. Jim Cramer is a has been. Career over.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:26 AM
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14. He is not that stupid.
Edited on Thu Mar-19-09 10:28 AM by Marr
All through the interview, he acted like Stewart was attacking him personally for making bad predictions, or for believing corrupt CEOs. He wasn't, and I have no doubt that Cramer knows that very well. The man we saw on that old video talking about how he used his connections to drive down stock prices and rake in money by shortselling was no dunce.

Cramer knows very well that it was his industry that was being condemned, not for being the cause of this mess, but for being *complicit in it's creation*. They and the rest of the big financial "news" outlets acted as PR tools for their corporate bosses. He knows what the criticism was for, and he knows it was warranted.
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:27 AM
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15. wow, he still doesn't get it, does he?
same thing I wanted to say to Jeff Zucker:

As far as I know, no one is saying that CNBC, or Cramer specifically, is responsible for the market crash. They are, however, responsible, for that fact that they did not behave as a proper journalistic enterprise. They are responsible for coddling CEOs and other business execs. They are responsible for misleading the public about the market, whether through intentional malfeasance or through negligence coupled with sensationalism.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:28 AM
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16. Cramer is right. He wasn't behind it.
He was at the forefront.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 10:39 AM
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17. CNBC's audience. . A small but VERY VALUABLE demographic
"People with more money than sense". They are small, but hugely influential. The "huddled masses" don't matter at all..

The middle class is not their concern..

Their ONLY audience is that gilded nincompoop who thinks that he's rich because he's smart.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:07 AM
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18. he needs viewers...this is about nobody watching his show anymore..(IMO)
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:09 AM
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19. NBC is a joke
They basically decide what you and I are to hear and think. God bless the free press. Or, may it rest in peace.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:13 AM
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20. Cramer's viewer numbers since visiting TDS -- Up or Down?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:17 AM
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21. Cramer needs to STFU.
Bottom line is, he and every other hack who works at that network is a sham and a shill, not a "journalist," however one broadly/loosely defines that term.

If Stewart were that "naive," Cramer would have been able to stand up to him -- Cramer folded, and he folded early.

And I don't think anyone was counting on the "media," however broadly/loosely one defines that term, to lead us out of this mess. But I do expect a **responsible** media -- and that part of it that calls itself the "best in the financial news business" -- to call bullshit when it sees it, and not let people come on their networks and blatantly lie and obfuscate with the full knowledge and complicity of said media. This is the basic tenet of journalism (or used to be): Acting as the watchdog, not the fucking lapdog. This is where CNBC fell down, and Stewart made Cramer cop to it.

Jim, the more you talk, the bigger the hole you dig for yourself. Let it go.

P.S. Gads. Nothing like waking up and seeing BOTH Cramer and Burnett on your TV at the same time. :puke:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:39 AM
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22. Oh, man
Does this mean we get another round? Please, please. :evilgrin:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:41 AM
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23. Just a pawn in our media ponzi scheme.
They fronted the illegal invasion.

They smoke screened the financial jokesters.


The real problem is that in large numbers, this country has gone the way of the infomercial. Life is easy. What Jon was saying is that LIFE ISN'T EASY. So stop saying it!

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 11:43 AM
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24. Shut up, Jim, go back to offering questionable stock advice
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:01 PM
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25. I could'a kicked that kid's ass
You musta been watching some other fight. I was going easy on him. Just wait till next time.

:P
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:18 PM
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26. He had to wait until CNBC bosses figured out what he was thinking and what he should say
They have a vested interest in continuing their same ole schtick..Their "Pimp My Stock" scenario is what they like, and they're not gonna change it..a bit..

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:19 PM
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27. now Jon will have to go on Dora the Explorer again
will this never stop?
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Last Stand Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 12:43 PM
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28. Stewart wins this round again.
Cramer is now turning on the regulators and politicians (read: RW). This is precisely what should have been happening all along. If the media had been doing it, the pols couldn't have gotten away with it. Stewart is creating the kind of division between media and industry essential for honest reporting.

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